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i just take what was written back then with a huge grain of salt.  i mean they thought the earth was flat and burned witches.  either way when i compare religions i use modern times....like 1990-present.

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They thought the earth was flat? .. wellll lets not go too far. But i get your point.
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Kmar wrote:

They thought the earth was flat? .. wellll lets not go too far. But i get your point.
i am not being religion specific just saying......

ugh
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I wasn't picking on any religion. We've known the earth was round since even before Christianity.

I said i got your point.
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11 Bravo wrote:

either way when i compare religions i use modern times....like 1990-present.
Which conveniently excludes pretty much everything except islamic terrorism.
Very convenient.
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Dilbert_X wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:

either way when i compare religions i use modern times....like 1990-present.
Which conveniently excludes pretty much everything except islamic terrorism.
Very convenient.
i only care about the world i live in....not the 1600's.

see, i know people burned witches in new england.  well aware.  my only real concern is they still do it some countries.
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funny thing is you dismiss current happenings by comparing to what happened hundreds of years ago.
Very convenient.
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Pre-1990s history is important to many people, anyone with a religion or ancestors for example.
Maybe you guys should have stopped celebrating Independence Day in 1796? Thats three centuries ago - time to move on?

I don't dismiss anything, just try to put it in its proper historical context.

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Dilbert_X wrote:

Pre-1990s history is important to many people, anyone with a religion or ancestors for example.
Maybe you guys should have stopped celebrating Independence Day in 1796? Thats three centuries ago - time to move on?

I don't dismiss anything, just try to put it in its proper historical context.
i didnt say it wasnt important you numpty.  i said i am only concerned with what is going on around me.
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But if you don't take into account the historical context most occurrences are hard to make sense of - except if you're a Fox News journalist then its either the fault of muslims or liberals.
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what does historical context have to do with catholic pee pee touchers or stoning women to death because their ankle was showing?
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Dilbert_X wrote:

But if you don't take into account the historical context most occurrences are hard to make sense of - except if you're a Fox News journalist then its either the fault of muslims or liberals.
Isn't that his point? Some areas of the globe refuse to evolve.. despite having a noticicable head start.
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The Catholic church has over time gained a position in society where it has become so powerful no government can touch it, despite the fact its now run by paedophiles and Nazis. It will no doubt take decades or centuries to bring them down - so we need to start now.

If you're talking about Afghanistan then the West is in large part responsible for using the Afghans to bring down the soviets and then dumping them like a warm turd when the job was done and letting Islamic extremists fill the breach. Those women being killed are thanks to short-sighted US foreign policy - go campaign for the State department to be given a greater role in government (replacing, say, the military) instead of ranting about muslims.
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Kmar wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

But if you don't take into account the historical context most occurrences are hard to make sense of - except if you're a Fox News journalist then its either the fault of muslims or liberals.
Isn't that his point? Some areas of the globe refuse to evolve.. despite having a noticicable head start.
Depends on what you mean by evolve. They don't have Hooters and cheerleaders out there.
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No not just afghanistan. Why is it they hang gays in iran? Sure, there is a need to blame thousands of years of failure on a country that has only existed less than three hundred. A white satan allows for a shift of blame and accountabilty. Forget the fact that it is usually their own muslim brethren selling out. For the most part the west is welcomed in these decayed civilizations.
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Dilbert_X wrote:

Kmar wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

But if you don't take into account the historical context most occurrences are hard to make sense of - except if you're a Fox News journalist then its either the fault of muslims or liberals.
Isn't that his point? Some areas of the globe refuse to evolve.. despite having a noticicable head start.
Depends on what you mean by evolve. They don't have Hooters and cheerleaders out there.
If that were only it.

Also take note that I have slammed the catholic church well and good earlier in this thread. So don't think I've excused them.
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Kmar wrote:

No not just afghanistan. Why is it they hang gays in iran? Sure, there is a need to blame thousands of years of failure on a country that has only existed less than three hundred. A white satan allows for a shift of blame and accountabilty. Forget the fact that it is usually their own muslim brethren selling out. For the most part the west is welcomed in these decayed civilizations.
Why does the US lock up stoners and blame everyone else for the ills of the world when its mostly their appetite for oil which causes them?

They're just a different culture, and they'll be around long after the US has collapsed under the weight of capitalism.

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trololololololololol
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Bertster7 wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

But you have to take into account the really abhorrent sort of ways people were killed by Catholics. Just look at things like the book of martyrs, a nasty example being a heavily pregnant woman being hung above a fire so she was slowly cooked, then dropped into the fire where she gave birth and the crowd chucked the baby back into the fire.
what the hell are you on?  do you know how stupid that sounds?  how is that even possible?  she gave birth in the fire and they chucked the baby back in?  if she was in the fire how did the baby get out of the fire?  was her vagina a cannon?  is there proof of this or just crap like bible?
It's well documented. Read Foxe's book of martyrs. It is available online. Here's a picture from it:

http://www.hrionline.ac.uk/johnfoxe/ima … /1980w.jpg

Catholic persecution of Protestants under Mary Tudor's reign was not pleasant.
You can find old books with pictures of Real Mermaids too !
again long long ago not "yesterday" Sh*t look at medical procedure back then.

PS "aliens among us ! " could be seen as " well documented "

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Dilbert_X wrote:

Kmar wrote:

No not just afghanistan. Why is it they hang gays in iran? Sure, there is a need to blame thousands of years of failure on a country that has only existed less than three hundred. A white satan allows for a shift of blame and accountabilty. Forget the fact that it is usually their own muslim brethren selling out. For the most part the west is welcomed in these decayed civilizations.
Why does the US lock up stoners and blame everyone else for the ills of the world when its mostly their appetite for oil which causes them?

They're just a different culture, and they'll be around long after the US has collapsed under the weight of capitalism.
This explains so much, This is what it is all about. I am going to hang on to this line for a long long time. lol !
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Hunter/Jumper wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:


what the hell are you on?  do you know how stupid that sounds?  how is that even possible?  she gave birth in the fire and they chucked the baby back in?  if she was in the fire how did the baby get out of the fire?  was her vagina a cannon?  is there proof of this or just crap like bible?
It's well documented. Read Foxe's book of martyrs. It is available online. Here's a picture from it:

http://www.hrionline.ac.uk/johnfoxe/ima … /1980w.jpg

Catholic persecution of Protestants under Mary Tudor's reign was not pleasant.
You can find old books with pictures of Real Mermaids too !
again long long ago not "yesterday" Sh*t look at medical procedure back then.

PS "aliens among us ! " could be seen as " well documented "
I know you guys don't like it when you get shown stuff that contradicts your narrow view of the world, but contempary accounts considered reliable by all historians I've ever heard of are about as good as it gets from a historical standpoint.

There is far better evidence of this than there is that Jesus ever existed (there are no contemporaneous sources to confirm that he did).

I find your level of mistrust in mainstream academia quite amusing. There are always the nutty deniers, whether it be evolution/climate change/historical events (like this, like the holocaust, etc.) - just be aware that you're the crazy minority on this and that those who study these things certainly don't get taught your viewpoint.
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Bertster7 wrote:

Hunter/Jumper wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:


It's well documented. Read Foxe's book of martyrs. It is available online. Here's a picture from it:

http://www.hrionline.ac.uk/johnfoxe/ima … /1980w.jpg

Catholic persecution of Protestants under Mary Tudor's reign was not pleasant.
You can find old books with pictures of Real Mermaids too !
again long long ago not "yesterday" Sh*t look at medical procedure back then.

PS "aliens among us ! " could be seen as " well documented "
I know you guys don't like it when you get shown stuff that contradicts your narrow view of the world, but contempary accounts considered reliable by all historians I've ever heard of are about as good as it gets from a historical standpoint.

There is far better evidence of this than there is that Jesus ever existed (there are no contemporaneous sources to confirm that he did).

I find your level of mistrust in mainstream academia quite amusing. There are always the nutty deniers, whether it be evolution/climate change/historical events (like this, like the holocaust, etc.) - just be aware that you're the crazy minority on this and that those who study these things certainly don't get taught your viewpoint.
its funny you think we have never heard of this stuff.  i did go to catholic school and we did learn about that kind of stuff.  i take history that far back with massive skepticism
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and i said i hated both.  you are fucking blind or stupid and thats not my fault.
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Dilbert_X wrote:

The Catholic church has over time gained a position in society where it has become so powerful no government can touch it, despite the fact its now run by paedophiles and Nazis. It will no doubt take decades or centuries to bring them down - so we need to start now.

If you're talking about Afghanistan then the West is in large part responsible for using the Afghans to bring down the soviets and then dumping them like a warm turd when the job was done and letting Islamic extremists fill the breach. Those women being killed are thanks to short-sighted US foreign policy - go campaign for the State department to be given a greater role in government (replacing, say, the military) instead of ranting about muslims.
We also need to bring down the extremism and corruption within Islam.

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