Fixing DAST

2010-07-05 09:00:22

#426

lowing: Banned; +1,662|6838|USA

Jaekus wrote:
I have to ask, why do you come onto this forum? All I've ever seen you do is enter this forum, argue with people and it never ever gets anywhere, and they're always the same arguments with no ending, and that's it? You know what they say about repeating the same action and expecting a different result, yeah?

Why don't you venture onto the other forums, maybe take things a bit more light hearted and get to know the community on more than one level?

I come in this forum for a few reasons, none of which include befriending people like you in threads like "rate the girl above you" or "Let's play a game of picture charades"

I post here for entertainment while on line

I enjoy expressing my opinions, reading the responses and hopefully engage in honest debate. Remember I rarely engage in the bashing that you and others like you thrive in and build reputations for.

I use this forum as a personal interactive journal where I can anonymously post what I feel and actually have my journal answer back.

2010-07-05 09:02:26

#427

Jaekus: I'm the matchstick that you'll never lose; +957|5366|Sydney

Maybe you should let your hair down a little, if you have any of course (can't make these assumptions you understand).

2010-07-05 09:17:24

#428

lowing: Banned; +1,662|6838|USA

Jaekus wrote:
Maybe you should let your hair down a little, if you have any of course (can't make these assumptions you understand).

You would not believe how well liked I am, how generous, how concerned I am for the well-being of my family, friends, and co-workers.

You would not believe how emotional I had gotten while in Iraq regarding the lives affected by the war from both the soldiers and the locals perspectives. Believe it or not Jaekus, I am quite human. Trust me, I am nothing like you have me envisioned.

2010-07-05 09:18:24

#429

eleven bravo: Member; +1,399|5446|foggy bottom

and you still shit on the countless muslims that have died for the united states

Tu Stultus Es

2010-07-05 09:19:28

#430

lowing: Banned; +1,662|6838|USA

eleven bravo wrote:
and you still shit on the countless muslims that have died for the united states

nope, I question ISLAM, and there is plenty of information available to do so.

2010-07-05 09:20:30

#431

Jaekus: I'm the matchstick that you'll never lose; +957|5366|Sydney

lowing wrote:
Jaekus wrote:
Maybe you should let your hair down a little, if you have any of course (can't make these assumptions you understand).
You would not believe how well liked I am, how generous, how concerned I am for the well-being of my family, friends, and co-workers.

You would not believe how emotional I had gotten while in Iraq regarding the lives affected by the war from both the soldiers and the locals perspectives. Believe it or not Jaekus, I am quite human. Trust me, I am nothing like you have me envisioned.

You assume how I envision you. You project these assumptions upon people all the time.

All I'm suggesting is that as a forum entity like the rest of us, perhaps you could loosen up and show those more human qualities rather than the staunch conservative everyone's used to seeing.

Have a bit of fun, laugh a little.

2010-07-05 09:29:33

#432

lowing: Banned; +1,662|6838|USA

Jaekus wrote:
lowing wrote:
Jaekus wrote:
Maybe you should let your hair down a little, if you have any of course (can't make these assumptions you understand).
You would not believe how well liked I am, how generous, how concerned I am for the well-being of my family, friends, and co-workers.

You would not believe how emotional I had gotten while in Iraq regarding the lives affected by the war from both the soldiers and the locals perspectives. Believe it or not Jaekus, I am quite human. Trust me, I am nothing like you have me envisioned.
You assume how I envision you. You project these assumptions upon people all the time.

All I'm suggesting is that as a forum entity like the rest of us, perhaps you could loosen up and show those more human qualities rather than the staunch conservative everyone's used to seeing.

Have a bit of fun, laugh a little.

Umm when you call me a Nazi, an idiot, a jack ass, war monger, a racist, etc........ lol, yeah I can safely assume how you envision me.

Trust me I am entertained.

2010-07-05 09:31:52

#433

Jaekus: I'm the matchstick that you'll never lose; +957|5366|Sydney

But I haven't called you all those things.

You like the attention so people give it to you. If you didn't, you wouldn't post like you do.

2010-07-05 09:32:37

#434

eleven bravo: Member; +1,399|5446|foggy bottom

lowing wrote:
eleven bravo wrote:
and you still shit on the countless muslims that have died for the united states
nope, I question ISLAM, and there is plenty of information available to do so.

ive met a lot of dead iraqi soldiers and policeman that were supporting our agenda as well as their own islamic

people that have/have had a strong and passionate hatred for terorism

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Tu Stultus Es

2010-07-05 13:44:43

#435

lowing: Banned; +1,662|6838|USA

eleven bravo wrote:
lowing wrote:
eleven bravo wrote:
and you still shit on the countless muslims that have died for the united states
nope, I question ISLAM, and there is plenty of information available to do so.
ive met a lot of dead iraqi soldiers and policeman that were supporting our agenda as well as their own islamic

people that have/have had a strong and passionate hatred for terorism

They do so in spite of Islamic teachings, NOT in support of them.

2010-07-05 13:49:07

#436

pace51: Boom?; +194|5360|Markham, Ontario

eleven bravo wrote:
and you still shit on the countless muslims that have died for the united states

lay off of lowing. Geeez. And you people wonder why there's so much argumentativeness on this forum.

2010-07-05 13:55:32

#437

ATG: Banned; +5,233|6716|Global Command

lowing wrote:
eleven bravo wrote:
lowing wrote:

nope, I question ISLAM, and there is plenty of information available to do so.
ive met a lot of dead iraqi soldiers and policeman that were supporting our agenda as well as their own islamic

people that have/have had a strong and passionate hatred for terorism
They do so in spite of Islamic teachings, NOT in support of them.

I feel your pain Low, but you gotta understand that in Iraq there are poliicians and their pawns, and then there are the real people. There are real people everywhere. There is radical Islam and then there are workaday Muslims who simply want to be free.

2010-07-05 13:56:26

#438

lowing: Banned; +1,662|6838|USA

Jaekus wrote:
But I haven't called you all those things.

You like the attention so people give it to you. If you didn't, you wouldn't post like you do.

When I say you, I mean the general population of this forum, and yes YOU personally have spouted off some of that shit.

It has nothing to do with attention, I do not post my opinions to draw that fire. If I did, then my opinions would change to the direction of the threads. As it is I am very consistent in my opinions and my posts.

Bottomline is I couldn't care less what I am called or what your opinions are of me. I just want a good debate. I lose it, over the absurdity of some of the arguments you all hang your hats on, while patting yourselves on the back for some of the dumbest shit. Uzi's post is a perfect example, even after being shown what a bullshit post that was, you all continued to praise him for it. Not holding to the same standard of scrutiny, regardless if you disagree or agree is what bias is, and most of you are guilty of doing exactly that.

2010-07-05 14:01:45

#439

lowing: Banned; +1,662|6838|USA

ATG wrote:
lowing wrote:
eleven bravo wrote:

ive met a lot of dead iraqi soldiers and policeman that were supporting our agenda as well as their own islamic

people that have/have had a strong and passionate hatred for terorism
They do so in spite of Islamic teachings, NOT in support of them.
I feel your pain Low, but you gotta understand that in Iraq there are poliicians and their pawns, and then there are the real people. There are real people everywhere. There is radical Islam and then there are workaday Muslims who simply want to be free.

I understand this completely. I even understand that the vast majority of Muslims are peaceful and just want to live their lives. This has nothing to do with Islam. The religion is judged separately from the people. It is its own entity to be judges based on what it teaches and its laws. Regardless as to how some MUslims wish to ignore the violent and ntolerant aspects of Islam, this does nothing to remove the FACTS that those violent and intolerant aspects of Islam exist and is practiced to a far greater extent than any other religion.

2010-07-05 14:11:30

#440

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6658

i find your distinction between the 'religion' and its 'people' troublesome; after all, a religion is nothing without its people: they are the embodiment and the reality of the abstract-theology. to speak only of 'islam' with no reference to the actual, every-day followers is rather to speak of fairy-tales. you cannot separate a religion from its followers - because a religion is only ever the sum of attitudes expressed by them. islam is not a constant, concrete entity that would exist with-or-without a base of worshippers. islam is the collective theological spirit of the worshippers: it is practically impossible to successfully 'form' your rhetorical dichotomy.

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2010-07-05 14:13:29

#441

Jaekus: I'm the matchstick that you'll never lose; +957|5366|Sydney

lowing wrote:
Jaekus wrote:
But I haven't called you all those things.

You like the attention so people give it to you. If you didn't, you wouldn't post like you do.
When I say you, I mean the general population of this forum, and yes YOU personally have spouted off some of that shit.

It has nothing to do with attention, I do not post my opinions to draw that fire. If I did, then my opinions would change to the direction of the threads. As it is I am very consistent in my opinions and my posts.

Bottomline is I couldn't care less what I am called or what your opinions are of me. I just want a good debate. I lose it, over the absurdity of some of the arguments you all hang your hats on, while patting yourselves on the back for some of the dumbest shit. Uzi's post is a perfect example, even after being shown what a bullshit post that was, you all continued to praise him for it. Not holding to the same standard of scrutiny, regardless if you disagree or agree is what bias is, and most of you are guilty of doing exactly that.

It's a two way street, dude.
You fairly fail to see all this, and act like a matyr a lot of the time.
It's pretty hard not to call you out on some of the things you say when they're pretty inaccurate, especially when you use further inaccuracies to somehow "prove" your arguments.
But hey, this is nothing new, is it?

2010-07-05 14:18:46

#442

KEN-JENNINGS: I am all that is MOD!; +2,978|6819|949

Can you guys please take this to the thread it originally started in? No point in having this spill over into multiple threads.

Thanks

2010-07-05 15:39:18

#443

lowing: Banned; +1,662|6838|USA

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
all this arguing is for naught here, as i'm deleting all the off-topic posts after my urging.

Lowing, no one is forcing you to post here. Post in the other thread if you feel the need to keep that topic going.

I do trust that you will be policing all topics where my name is taking cheap shots and deleting them as you find them. Fair enough.

Oh and do not forget to AWM them ok?

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2010-07-05 15:44:30

#444

KEN-JENNINGS: I am all that is MOD!; +2,978|6819|949

no, unfortunately i don't have the time nor patience to follow you (or any other member) around and police. That's what the report button is for...that's also why this topic was made. Mod's aren't omniscient. Sure when I am reading a thread and I see something warranting action I will take care of it, but I don't log on with the intention of trolling through topics looking for who is flaming lowing, or who uzique is flaming, or instances of finray acting like a douche in the tech section. It's up to the users first and foremost to police their own topics, to bring the level of discussion up to a bare minimum.

And I sent you an AWM because I kindly asked for the topic to move on, and you couldn't comply with that simple request. Let's move on, OK?

2010-07-05 21:11:52

#445

unnamednewbie13: Moderator; +2,053|6959|PNW

Reopened.

2010-07-07 11:56:53

#446

lowing: Banned; +1,662|6838|USA

unnamednewbie13 wrote:
Reopened.

You are going to censor this thread, including posts that were directly relevant to it, then close the thread, only to re-open it when you have it just the way you want it, and ask how to fix DST?

Seriously, why do you even bother?

2010-07-07 13:48:19

#447

13urnzz: Banned; +5,830|6684

i'm getting tired of my posts being deleted, for something as innocuous as what i just posted.

would you please send me the AWM, so i can at least know if i broke a rule or something?

2010-07-07 14:05:37

#448

unnamednewbie13: Moderator; +2,053|6959|PNW

@lowing: I closed it for awhile so people could simmer down.
@burnzz: There's entire chains of flame battles deleted in this thread by more than one mod, and I guarantee that if one of us sat down for an hour to elaborately AWM everything, people would gripe because they're getting AWM'd, and/or that he isn't catching other infractions somewhere else.

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I'd say the most reported thing on DST are personal attacks. We could start to address this thread's title by reining in our collective pissiness.

edit: partial from a deleted post -

yeah I have long been baffled by those that enter a debate forum and insist we all stop arguing.

Argue, fine, but try not to use insults to win. It'd take a hundred mods to keep track of everything right now.

2010-07-07 14:16:05

#449

13urnzz: Banned; +5,830|6684

i get it newbie, and if my posts going to be deleted for saying "i miss Kmarion" i haven't learned if i

A) broke a forum rule
B) personal attack
C) pornographic or vulgar post
D) threatend or was threatening another member
E) being racist

so if the post is deleted, how am i to know which behavior i am to correct?

you see, this is why i miss Kmarion - when there was an infraction, he let you know.

2010-07-07 14:21:13

#450

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6658

why did kmar even leave / go AWOL / slacken up? was there a stated reason i missed during one of my vacations?

PM me if you feel this post is not contributing to the afterburner of intellectual-suggestions going down in this thread

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