unnamednewbie13
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ATG wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

Point me to one American settlement in America which predates the British, or the American Indians.
Erm, the Nights Templar? Vikings?

There is evidence. Don't be so lazy and look into it yourself.
What's a Night Templar?

https://farm3.static.flickr.com/2374/1910298974_9ab70e3563.jpg

One of these?
Deadmonkiefart
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ATG wrote:

AussieReaper wrote:

ATG wrote:

Point to me one mexican settlement in all of California that predates the Spanish. Go ahead, I defy you.
But:


ATG wrote:

Except the ghostly remains of the cliff dwellings and the vast abandoned farm works of Casa Grande.
The Pueblo Indians were a group that stayed and settled North America whereas the Aztec and Inca migrated all the way to Peru. Machu Picu is at least as spectacular as the Great Pyramids. Very advanced culture.

It is a mistake to think of indians in North America to be the same people as the Inca and Aztec. That'd be like saying Koreans are the same people as Japanese.


The U.S. decimated the American indians, and it is Ironic that they are housed on reservations with high crimes, drug and booze problem while mexicans run businesses both legal and otherwise and enjoy more of the American dream.
What exactly is the difference between the "Indians" and the Inca/Aztec?  The stereotypical "Indians" that the Americans came into contact with were what was left of larger settlements that had been decimated by Spanish conquistadors and disease.  Before the Spanish, most natives were living in larger settlements, with the exception of the plains indians, who were nomads.
seymorebutts443
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unnamednewbie13 wrote:

ATG wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

Point me to one American settlement in America which predates the British, or the American Indians.
Erm, the Nights Templar? Vikings?

There is evidence. Don't be so lazy and look into it yourself.
What's a Night Templar?

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2374/191 … 0e3563.jpg

One of these?
hawt






seymorebutts443 wrote:

So you're pretty much saying that the "dirty mexicans" are doing as the aztecs allegedly did to the Anazasi tribes and take over this land? Yet you don't actually have any tangible proof, just speculation.
Dilbert_X
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ATG wrote:

Perhaps you should read what you wrote so next time you don't sound so dumb.
Still not really clear on what you're on about but nvm.
So, when you hear hispanic racist thugs spouting shit about this being occupied land know they are spewing lies and perpetuating a fraud.

Point to me one mexican settlement in all of California that predates the Spanish. Go ahead, I defy you.
Are you saying the Mexicans ancestors weren't in California so they have no right to it?
Nor were yours, you're even.
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ATG
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Deadmonkiefart wrote:

ATG wrote:

AussieReaper wrote:

ATG wrote:

Point to me one mexican settlement in all of California that predates the Spanish. Go ahead, I defy you.
But:



The Pueblo Indians were a group that stayed and settled North America whereas the Aztec and Inca migrated all the way to Peru. Machu Picu is at least as spectacular as the Great Pyramids. Very advanced culture.

It is a mistake to think of indians in North America to be the same people as the Inca and Aztec. That'd be like saying Koreans are the same people as Japanese.


The U.S. decimated the American indians, and it is Ironic that they are housed on reservations with high crimes, drug and booze problem while mexicans run businesses both legal and otherwise and enjoy more of the American dream.
What exactly is the difference between the "Indians" and the Inca/Aztec?  The stereotypical "Indians" that the Americans came into contact with were what was left of larger settlements that had been decimated by Spanish conquistadors and disease.  Before the Spanish, most natives were living in larger settlements, with the exception of the plains indians, who were nomads.
Thanks for an intelligent question.

There isn't much evidence that the Spanish were here more than five hundred years ago but most Anazasi abandoned their homes around 800 years ago so something else was going on. The forts of the Anazasi were built because they were afraid of something. In some places food was uneaten and left on the table, suggesting they cut and run because they were trying to escape something or someone.
unnamednewbie13
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ATG wrote:

The forts of the Anazasi were built because they were afraid of something. In some places food was uneaten and left on the table, suggesting they cut and run because they were trying to escape something or someone.
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Harmor
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Was I the only one that thought the thread title of was another "Arizona Nazi" thread?
Pug
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ATG wrote:

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When one views the great cliff dwellings and fortresses of The Old Ones the first question that always comes to mind is, " what happened to the people that made them? What were they protecting themselves against? "

So again, what happened to the Anazasi? Why did they built their homes in fortified and hidden places?
The settlements were abandoned at the same time as a worldwide drought which led to cannibalism for those that stayed behind.  According to comparing climate scientists' data with the anthropological relics at the site.  As the relics were uncovered and carbon dated, the incidence of cannibalism increased when correlated with the climate data.

Mesa Verde used to be good farming area, an oasis of sorts in a harsh land.  "Fortified and hidden" really was a coincidence - it was the best place to "build".

So most of the folks left.  The left behind eventually were left to fate.

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