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2010-04-30 16:17:00

#1

Turquoise: O Canada; +1,596|6690|North Carolina

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/04/2 … 58014.html

So, how about all that offshore drilling we've been talking about for the last few years? Any takers? How about Florida? Surely, there won't be any major spills anytime soon... whoooops.

So, even Obama got sucked into the hype, and now we've got Valdez part two in the Gulf....

Do you think we might be more keen to move toward nuclear power and various other alternatives at this point? Or have the oil companies successfully bought up all the research? (and spun the public)

2010-04-30 16:20:29

#2

11 Bravo: Banned; +965|5522|Cleveland, Ohio

3 mile island. valdez.

you want modern life then deal with modern problems and stop crying.

2010-04-30 16:21:49

#3

King_County_Downy: shitfaced; +2,791|6883|Seattle

Oilmaggedon pt. II

Sober enough to know what I'm doing, drunk enough to really enjoy doing it

2010-04-30 16:28:14

#4

Turquoise: O Canada; +1,596|6690|North Carolina

11 Bravo wrote:
3 mile island. valdez.

you want modern life then deal with modern problems and stop crying.

Yep, and Canada and France have cleaner air than us on average by converting to a nuclear power infrastructure.

Nukes are the way to go.

2010-04-30 16:30:24

#5

11 Bravo: Banned; +965|5522|Cleveland, Ohio

Turquoise wrote:
11 Bravo wrote:
3 mile island. valdez.

you want modern life then deal with modern problems and stop crying.
Yep, and Canada and France have cleaner air than us on average by converting to a nuclear power infrastructure.

Nukes are the way to go.

what like 80% of the canadian pop live within 100 miles of the US border right? meh.

i aint against nukes, turq. not at all. i support them.

2010-04-30 16:35:12

#6

Turquoise: O Canada; +1,596|6690|North Carolina

Good to hear... well, we just need to make the move toward more of that and less coal and oil consumption.

2010-04-30 16:41:50

#7

King_County_Downy: shitfaced; +2,791|6883|Seattle

Shale oil would never do this to me.

Sober enough to know what I'm doing, drunk enough to really enjoy doing it

2010-04-30 16:42:54

#8

Turquoise: O Canada; +1,596|6690|North Carolina

King_County_Downy wrote:
Shale oil would never do this to me.

Hmm?

2010-04-30 16:47:50

#9

King_County_Downy: shitfaced; +2,791|6883|Seattle

You know, that Canadian stuff they get out of the dirt or someshit. Apparently the whole east coast of the US is full of it but it costs more to refine.

(pulls figure out of ass)Like 10 times the worlds total oil reserves. amirite?

Sober enough to know what I'm doing, drunk enough to really enjoy doing it

2010-04-30 18:44:22

#10

Spark: liquid fluoride thorium reactor; +874|6960|Canberra, AUS

King_County_Downy wrote:
You know, that Canadian stuff they get out of the dirt or someshit. Apparently the whole east coast of the US is full of it but it costs more to refine.

(pulls figure out of ass)Like 10 times the worlds total oil reserves. amirite?

"costs more" is a massive understatement.

The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
^{~ Richard Feynman}

2010-04-30 21:20:58

#11

Turquoise: O Canada; +1,596|6690|North Carolina

King_County_Downy wrote:
You know, that Canadian stuff they get out of the dirt or someshit. Apparently the whole east coast of the US is full of it but it costs more to refine.

(pulls figure out of ass)Like 10 times the worlds total oil reserves. amirite?

Shale oil is a niche market that becomes more affordable (comparatively speaking) whenever oil speculation drives other oil up in value. This is why Alberta has made so much money in recent years. In addition to this, there is a lot of shale oil in the Bakken oil formation that extends from North Dakota up through central Canada.

Still, even with these massive shale deposits, we really do need to move away from oil and towards things like nuclear power.

2010-04-30 21:23:08

#12

Cybargs: Moderated; +2,285|7002

Oil sands are competitive at around 50 dollars a barrel from what I've heard.

Oil prices today are pretty high, but not historical when you adjust for inflation.

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2010-04-30 21:23:30

#13

Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5643|London, England

Turquoise wrote:
King_County_Downy wrote:
You know, that Canadian stuff they get out of the dirt or someshit. Apparently the whole east coast of the US is full of it but it costs more to refine.

(pulls figure out of ass)Like 10 times the worlds total oil reserves. amirite?
Shale oil is a niche market that becomes more affordable (comparatively speaking) whenever oil speculation drives other oil up in value. This is why Alberta has made so much money in recent years. In addition to this, there is a lot of shale oil in the Bakken oil formation that extends from North Dakota up through central Canada.

Still, even with these massive shale deposits, we really do need to move away from oil and towards things like nuclear power.

Can we plop a nuke plant down in your town? I'm pro-nuke power, just playing devil's advocate.

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat

2010-04-30 21:25:07

#14

Cybargs: Moderated; +2,285|7002

JohnG@lt wrote:
Turquoise wrote:
King_County_Downy wrote:
You know, that Canadian stuff they get out of the dirt or someshit. Apparently the whole east coast of the US is full of it but it costs more to refine.

(pulls figure out of ass)Like 10 times the worlds total oil reserves. amirite?
Shale oil is a niche market that becomes more affordable (comparatively speaking) whenever oil speculation drives other oil up in value. This is why Alberta has made so much money in recent years. In addition to this, there is a lot of shale oil in the Bakken oil formation that extends from North Dakota up through central Canada.

Still, even with these massive shale deposits, we really do need to move away from oil and towards things like nuclear power.
Can we plop a nuke plant down in your town? I'm pro-nuke power, just playing devil's advocate.

Stupid fucking stupid people. Fuck people are so goddamn ignorant around nuclear power. IT DOES NOT FUCKING EMIT RADIATION SHIT IS ALL CONTAINED. One major problem is though it heats up local rivers by quite a lot...

2010-04-30 21:27:00

#15

SenorToenails: Veritas et Scientia; +444|6415|North Tonawanda, NY

JohnG@lt wrote:
Can we plop a nuke plant down in your town? I'm pro-nuke power, just playing devil's advocate.

Yes.

2010-04-30 21:27:56

#16

Turquoise: O Canada; +1,596|6690|North Carolina

JohnG@lt wrote:
Turquoise wrote:
King_County_Downy wrote:
You know, that Canadian stuff they get out of the dirt or someshit. Apparently the whole east coast of the US is full of it but it costs more to refine.

(pulls figure out of ass)Like 10 times the worlds total oil reserves. amirite?
Shale oil is a niche market that becomes more affordable (comparatively speaking) whenever oil speculation drives other oil up in value. This is why Alberta has made so much money in recent years. In addition to this, there is a lot of shale oil in the Bakken oil formation that extends from North Dakota up through central Canada.

Still, even with these massive shale deposits, we really do need to move away from oil and towards things like nuclear power.
Can we plop a nuke plant down in your town? I'm pro-nuke power, just playing devil's advocate.

I'd be in favor of it... there's nothing to fear with nuke plants.. we even have one in Raleigh.

2010-04-30 21:28:31

#17

Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5643|London, England

Cybargs wrote:
JohnG@lt wrote:
Turquoise wrote:

Shale oil is a niche market that becomes more affordable (comparatively speaking) whenever oil speculation drives other oil up in value. This is why Alberta has made so much money in recent years. In addition to this, there is a lot of shale oil in the Bakken oil formation that extends from North Dakota up through central Canada.

Still, even with these massive shale deposits, we really do need to move away from oil and towards things like nuclear power.
Can we plop a nuke plant down in your town? I'm pro-nuke power, just playing devil's advocate.
Stupid fucking stupid people. Fuck people are so goddamn ignorant around nuclear power. IT DOES NOT FUCKING EMIT RADIATION SHIT IS ALL CONTAINED. One major problem is though it heats up local rivers by quite a lot...

I know this More radiation is produced and emitted into the atmosphere from burning coal than is emitted by nuclear power plants. Still, people talk a big game about a lot of issues until they're asked to take on some of the risk or hardship. Then it's NIMBY! NIMBY! NIMBY!

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat

2010-04-30 21:36:40

#18

Burwhale: Save the BlobFish!; +136|6508|Brisneyland

Invest more in making BioGasoline from algae. Its probably not cost competitive yet, but will get there when technology gets better. Exxon Mobil has invested $600mill into this, so has the US army, so it must be a viable option. Beats getting it form the ground or sea.
source
Its a win win win. I still get to drive my beloved car. Greenhouse gases arent increased. Middle east can get stuffed.
All good. And no more oil slicks.

2010-04-30 21:39:56

#19

Turquoise: O Canada; +1,596|6690|North Carolina

sounds like another good option...

2010-04-30 21:45:07

#20

ATG: Banned; +5,233|6814|Global Command

BP said there was " little chance an accident would be possible " when they got the permit.

Sort of like the unsinkable Titanic;
if you announce you are fail proof you become fail certain.

2010-04-30 21:46:25

#21

Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5643|London, England

To be fair, BP wasn't doing the drilling. They had contracted the work out to a Swiss company named Transocean that has (had) a pretty outstanding safety record. No one knows who the fuck Transocean is so BP will take all the blame.

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat

2010-04-30 22:03:54

#22

Spark: liquid fluoride thorium reactor; +874|6960|Canberra, AUS

ATG wrote:
BP said there was " little chance an accident would be possible " when they got the permit.

Sort of like the unsinkable Titanic;
if you announce you are fail proof you become fail certain.

ugh. probability failure here, why so many people make this mistake is beyond me

"unlikely" does not imply "impossible", it just means that it's not likely to happen. IT CAN STILL FUCKING HAPPEN.

The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
^{~ Richard Feynman}

2010-04-30 22:04:02

#23

FEOS: Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate; +1,182|6696|'Murka

Will be interesting to see what the investigation finds to have caused the accident. For it to have happened so soon after Obama reversed his pledge on domestic drilling...if I were the tinfoil hat-wearing type, I'd be getting all geeked up about now.

“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular

2010-04-30 22:07:41

#24

Spark: liquid fluoride thorium reactor; +874|6960|Canberra, AUS

tbh it would be highly, highly unusual for an incident like this to be a deliberate attack and for no one to claim responsibility. that's just not how those kind of people work.

The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
^{~ Richard Feynman}

2010-04-30 22:11:26

#25

FEOS: Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate; +1,182|6696|'Murka

Spark wrote:
tbh it would be highly, highly unusual for an incident like this to be a deliberate attack and for no one to claim responsibility. that's just not how those kind of people work.

That would depend on who did it, tbh. If it weren't ecoterrorists, but rather some group whose sole agenda was to stop any increase in domestic drilling...no need to claim responsibility.

“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular

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