Jay
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http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/ … money.html

PRESIDENT OBAMA wrote:

"Now, what we’re doing, I want to be clear, we’re not trying to push financial reform because we begrudge success that's fairly earned. I mean, I do think at a certain point you've made enough money."
Hmm...
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
Benzin
Member
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I'd like to hear that phrase in context... but I agree, poor choice of words.
jord
Member
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Id be happy with 15 mil.
KEN-JENNINGS
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so what?
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5366|London, England

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

so what?
You would be ok with the President of the United States telling you that you make too much money at your job and you should pay higher taxes because of it?
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
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He's partly right. At a certain point, you probably have made 'enough' money. But in America, you're supposed to be able to make whatever you can earn.

So, location fail.
13rin
Member
+977|6487
It doesn't surprise me to hear him say something like that.

However if you have a fortune and live that lifestyle you still need to be bringing in millions just to maintain it.
I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something.  - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5366|London, England
Interesting email I got today...

We are Wall Street. It's our job to make money. Whether it's a commodity, stock, bond, or some hypothetical piece of fake paper, it doesn't matter. We would trade baseball cards if it were profitable. I didn't hear America complaining when the market was roaring to 14,000 and everyone's 401k doubled every 3 years. Just like gambling, its not a problem until you lose. I've never heard of anyone going to Gamblers Anonymous because they won too much in Vegas.

Well now the market crapped out, & even though it has come back somewhat, the government and the average Joes are still looking for a scapegoat. God knows there has to be one for everything. Well, here we are.

Go ahead and continue to take us down, but you're only going to hurt yourselves. What's going to happen when we can't find jobs on the Street anymore? Guess what: We're going to take yours. We get up at 5am & work till 10pm or later. We're used to not getting up to pee when we have a position. We don't take an hour or more for a lunch break. We don't demand a union. We don't retire at 50 with a pension. We eat what we kill, and when the only thing left to eat is on your dinner plates, we'll eat that.

For years teachers and other unionized labor have had us fooled. We were too busy working to notice. Do you really think that we are incapable of teaching 3rd graders and doing landscaping? We're going to take your cushy jobs with tenure and 4 months off a year and whine just like you that we are so-o-o-o underpaid for building the youth of America. Say goodbye to your overtime and double time and a half. I'll be hitting grounders to the high school baseball team for $5k extra a summer, thank you very much.

So now that we're going to be making $85k a year without upside, Joe Mainstreet is going to have his revenge, right? Wrong! Guess what: we're going to stop buying the new 80k car, we aren't going to leave the 35 percent tip at our business dinners anymore. No more free rides on our backs. We're going to landscape our own back yards, wash our cars with a garden hose in our driveways. Our money was your money. You spent it. When our money dries up, so does yours.

The difference is, you lived off of it, we rejoiced in it. The Obama administration and the Democratic National Committee might get their way and knock us off the top of the pyramid, but it's really going to hurt like hell for them when our fat a**es land directly on the middle class of America and knock them to the bottom.

We aren't dinosaurs. We are smarter and more vicious than that, and we are going to survive. The question is, now that Obama & his administration are making Joe Mainstreet our food supply…will he? and will they?
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
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DBBrinson1 wrote:

It doesn't surprise me to hear him say something like that.

However if you have a fortune and live that lifestyle you still need to be bringing in millions just to maintain it.
Plus, that lifestyle's motivation for building up a company that people can hold jobs with...
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5366|London, England

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

DBBrinson1 wrote:

It doesn't surprise me to hear him say something like that.

However if you have a fortune and live that lifestyle you still need to be bringing in millions just to maintain it.
Plus, that lifestyle's motivation for building up a company that people can hold jobs with...
It's not like they're putting the money in Uncle Scrooges Vault either. The money gets spent on down the line and feeds and clothes others.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
KEN-JENNINGS
I am all that is MOD!
+2,973|6640|949

JohnG@lt wrote:

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

so what?
You would be ok with the President of the United States telling you that you make too much money at your job and you should pay higher taxes because of it?
Oh, you forgot to provide the link where the President is telling me that.
SenorToenails
Veritas et Scientia
+444|6138|North Tonawanda, NY

CapnNismo wrote:

I'd like to hear that phrase in context... but I agree, poor choice of words.
Here is more of it (I didn't watch the video since I'm at work, but I found another article):

We’re not, we’re not trying to push financial reform because we begrudge success that’s fairly earned. I mean, I do think at a certain point you’ve made enough money. But, you know, part of the American way is, you know, you can just keep on making it if you’re providing a good product or providing good service. We don’t want people to stop, ah, fulfilling the core responsibilities of the financial system to help grow our economy.
Apparently, he was supposed to say:

Teleprompter wrote:

Now, we’re not doing this to punish these firms or begrudge success that’s fairly earned. We don’t want to stop them from fulfilling their responsibility to help grow our economy.
Source.
ghettoperson
Member
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jord wrote:

Id be happy with 15 mil.
That's like, one large apartment in a major capital city. I'd want at least five of them.
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5366|London, England

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

so what?
You would be ok with the President of the United States telling you that you make too much money at your job and you should pay higher taxes because of it?
Oh, you forgot to provide the link where the President is telling me that.
Ok, so as long as he's talking to others, and not you directly, you're cool with it. I see.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
Vilham
Say wat!?
+580|6774|UK

JohnG@lt wrote:

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

DBBrinson1 wrote:

It doesn't surprise me to hear him say something like that.

However if you have a fortune and live that lifestyle you still need to be bringing in millions just to maintain it.
Plus, that lifestyle's motivation for building up a company that people can hold jobs with...
It's not like they're putting the money in Uncle Scrooges Vault either. The money gets spent on down the line and feeds and clothes others.
Haha, no it doesn't, it sits in some fat cats offshore account.
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5366|London, England

Vilham wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

unnamednewbie13 wrote:


Plus, that lifestyle's motivation for building up a company that people can hold jobs with...
It's not like they're putting the money in Uncle Scrooges Vault either. The money gets spent on down the line and feeds and clothes others.
Haha, no it doesn't, it sits in some fat cats offshore account.
If it sits idle in an offshore account, it gets eaten away by inflation until it dwindles to nothing. Rich people understand this, which is why money never sits idle and is always reinvested somewhere. The idea of billions of dollars sitting idle in savings accounts is laughable.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
Vilham
Say wat!?
+580|6774|UK

JohnG@lt wrote:

Vilham wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:


It's not like they're putting the money in Uncle Scrooges Vault either. The money gets spent on down the line and feeds and clothes others.
Haha, no it doesn't, it sits in some fat cats offshore account.
If it sits idle in an offshore account, it gets eaten away by inflation until it dwindles to nothing. Rich people understand this, which is why money never sits idle and is always reinvested somewhere. The idea of billions of dollars sitting idle in savings accounts is laughable.
The loss from inflation < the tax that will be charged on it. Hence why offshore accounts exist.
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
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Vilham wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

Vilham wrote:


Haha, no it doesn't, it sits in some fat cats offshore account.
If it sits idle in an offshore account, it gets eaten away by inflation until it dwindles to nothing. Rich people understand this, which is why money never sits idle and is always reinvested somewhere. The idea of billions of dollars sitting idle in savings accounts is laughable.
The loss from inflation < the tax that will be charged on it. Hence why offshore accounts exist.
So by that line of reasoning axe the taxes and keep more money in America.

...
SEREMAKER
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since those in DC get to vote on raise for themselves, I think at a certain point they've made enough money
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KEN-JENNINGS
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JohnG@lt wrote:

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

You would be ok with the President of the United States telling you that you make too much money at your job and you should pay higher taxes because of it?
Oh, you forgot to provide the link where the President is telling me that.
Ok, so as long as he's talking to others, and not you directly, you're cool with it. I see.
Are you dense?  No, as long as he's not taking steps to restrict the amount of money I can make (and I've seen no evidence of a bill passed or proposed by Obama setting a cap on the amount of money I earn) I don't give a fuck about his rhetoric.  You take a quote out of context and offer it as evidence of....something, maybe...I think?  That's not very rational of you.

Did you have a point?
Vilham
Say wat!?
+580|6774|UK

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Vilham wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:


If it sits idle in an offshore account, it gets eaten away by inflation until it dwindles to nothing. Rich people understand this, which is why money never sits idle and is always reinvested somewhere. The idea of billions of dollars sitting idle in savings accounts is laughable.
The loss from inflation < the tax that will be charged on it. Hence why offshore accounts exist.
So by that line of reasoning axe the taxes and keep more money in America.

...
Not at all, but rich people will play people to launder their money, saying all the money rich people earns goes back into the system is plain fucking retarded.
ruisleipa
Member
+149|6230|teh FIN-land

JohnG@lt wrote:

PRESIDENT OBAMA wrote:

"I do think at a certain point you've made enough money."
Yeah, he's correct.

So what's your point?
Hurricane2k9
Pendulous Sweaty Balls
+1,538|5709|College Park, MD

JohnG@lt wrote:

Interesting email I got today...

We are Wall Street. It's our job to make money. Whether it's a commodity, stock, bond, or some hypothetical piece of fake paper, it doesn't matter. We would trade baseball cards if it were profitable. I didn't hear America complaining when the market was roaring to 14,000 and everyone's 401k doubled every 3 years. Just like gambling, its not a problem until you lose. I've never heard of anyone going to Gamblers Anonymous because they won too much in Vegas.

Well now the market crapped out, & even though it has come back somewhat, the government and the average Joes are still looking for a scapegoat. God knows there has to be one for everything. Well, here we are.

Go ahead and continue to take us down, but you're only going to hurt yourselves. What's going to happen when we can't find jobs on the Street anymore? Guess what: We're going to take yours. We get up at 5am & work till 10pm or later. We're used to not getting up to pee when we have a position. We don't take an hour or more for a lunch break. We don't demand a union. We don't retire at 50 with a pension. We eat what we kill, and when the only thing left to eat is on your dinner plates, we'll eat that.

For years teachers and other unionized labor have had us fooled. We were too busy working to notice. Do you really think that we are incapable of teaching 3rd graders and doing landscaping? We're going to take your cushy jobs with tenure and 4 months off a year and whine just like you that we are so-o-o-o underpaid for building the youth of America. Say goodbye to your overtime and double time and a half. I'll be hitting grounders to the high school baseball team for $5k extra a summer, thank you very much.

So now that we're going to be making $85k a year without upside, Joe Mainstreet is going to have his revenge, right? Wrong! Guess what: we're going to stop buying the new 80k car, we aren't going to leave the 35 percent tip at our business dinners anymore. No more free rides on our backs. We're going to landscape our own back yards, wash our cars with a garden hose in our driveways. Our money was your money. You spent it. When our money dries up, so does yours.

The difference is, you lived off of it, we rejoiced in it. The Obama administration and the Democratic National Committee might get their way and knock us off the top of the pyramid, but it's really going to hurt like hell for them when our fat a**es land directly on the middle class of America and knock them to the bottom.

We aren't dinosaurs. We are smarter and more vicious than that, and we are going to survive. The question is, now that Obama & his administration are making Joe Mainstreet our food supply…will he? and will they?
lol wall street brokers competing with illegals for landscaping jobs lol
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ruisleipa
Member
+149|6230|teh FIN-land

Hurricane2k9 wrote:

lol wall street brokers competing with illegals for landscaping jobs lol
haha yeah right. sounds like a great idea. community service even. they can come and clean my toilet while they're at it
Pug
UR father's brother's nephew's former roommate
+652|6550|Texas - Bigger than France
Yep, once you've made enough money in the United States, the next step is to make more money outside of the United States.

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