BF2S Forums Arizona passes controversial illegal immigration bill

Oh well, their fault. I seriously don't give a shit about racism, oh gee racial profiling like I fucking care. Sorry but it's not our fault your kind  cross borders illegally

Last edited by War Man (2010-04-23 14:09:06)

On one side it tightens up our borders, Remember that Arizona is right there and faces a ton of crime due to the border. ON the other hand, it now takes away US citizens rights very interesting.

13/f/taiwan wrote:

All it is going to do is just force illegals to move to  California, New Mexico, Utah, Nevada, Florida, New York etc. And when Arizona loses most of its labor force then files for bankruptcy the state will remove the bill.

But at least it will file for bankruptcy after, California, New Mexico, Utah, Nevada, Florida, New York etc..

So at least they'll have that for themselves.

Hurricane2k9 wrote:

cpt.fass1 wrote:

On one side it tightens up our borders, Remember that Arizona is right there and faces a ton of crime due to the border. ON the other hand, it now takes away US citizens rights very interesting.

The thing is, they already had the authority to check your immigration status if you were a suspect in a crime. Now the bill seems to let any old police officer walk up to you and demand your papers.

Ah well, tough life.

13/f/taiwan wrote:

War Man wrote:

13/f/taiwan wrote:

All it is going to do is just force illegals to move to  California, New Mexico, Utah, Nevada, Florida, New York etc. And when Arizona loses most of its labor force then files for bankruptcy the state will remove the bill.

Who says most of their labor force will file for bankruptcy?

cpt.fass1 wrote:

On one side it tightens up our borders, Remember that Arizona is right there and faces a ton of crime due to the border. ON the other hand, it now takes away US citizens rights very interesting.

You referring to those who got their citizenship despite coming here illegally because of our stupid politicians?

I'll try and make my post more clearer. I said Arizona will file for bankruptcy.

Doubtful. They may actually do just fine. Many unemployed people seeking jobs may decide to move to Arizona in fact.

Last edited by War Man (2010-04-23 14:14:04)

Hurricane2k9 wrote:

cpt.fass1 wrote:

On one side it tightens up our borders, Remember that Arizona is right there and faces a ton of crime due to the border. ON the other hand, it now takes away US citizens rights very interesting.

The thing is, they already had the authority to check your immigration status if you were a suspect in a crime. Now the bill seems to let any old police officer walk up to you and demand your papers.

That's why I said both, if you're here legally it seems unfair. But usually it's not going to be the legal people causing the crime. It's going to be those who are illegal running drugs, people and causing problems. So I don't know my real feelings about this. But you can't call racism on it, cause it passed for a reason.

Hurricane2k9 wrote:

cpt.fass1 wrote:

On one side it tightens up our borders, Remember that Arizona is right there and faces a ton of crime due to the border. ON the other hand, it now takes away US citizens rights very interesting.

The thing is, they already had the authority to check your immigration status if you were a suspect in a crime. Now the bill seems to let any old police officer walk up to you and demand your papers.

If you are the victim of the crime and illegal in states like New York, Florida and the border states it is illegal for police to ask you about your status in this country.

13/f/taiwan wrote:

War Man wrote:

13/f/taiwan wrote:

All it is going to do is just force illegals to move to  California, New Mexico, Utah, Nevada, Florida, New York etc. And when Arizona loses most of its labor force then files for bankruptcy the state will remove the bill.

Who says most of their labor force will file for bankruptcy?

cpt.fass1 wrote:

On one side it tightens up our borders, Remember that Arizona is right there and faces a ton of crime due to the border. ON the other hand, it now takes away US citizens rights very interesting.

You referring to those who got their citizenship despite coming here illegally because of our stupid politicians?

I'll try and make my post more clearer. I said Arizona will file for bankruptcy.

and I said

But at least it will file for bankruptcy after, California, New Mexico, Utah, Nevada, Florida, New York etc..

So at least they'll have that for themselves.

where are the good old days where anyone crossing the border would have had his head on a stick as a welcome sign.

Well when our children have the same opportunities as all the Illegals coming here I'll say it's messed up. Right now it isn't so, our higher education isn't free for US Citizens so why do we cater to other countries?

The good citizens of Arizona should protest and here is what I would do if I were a US citizen with brown skin living in AZ.


I would sew a red white and blue triangle to my clothes to protest this law.  That would pretty much bring this law into a proper light just like Nazi's made people wear triangles during the height of their racist oppression.

When US Citizens start getting harrassed I would expect to see lawsuits on this one. Of course I would also expect to see more arrests of US citizens to turn these illegal stops into righteous arrests.... just wait and see.


That being said, I don't think that border communities should shoulder the financial burden of illegal immigration. If there is this tacit notion that illegal immigrants help the economy by supplying cheap labor, then the federal govt needs to foot the bill. That was one aspect of the Obamacare bill that was really good, it takes indigent care, ie illegals healthcare, and shifts the funding from the counties to the state... that was a step in the right direction, but its the feds that need to foot the bills and may be if the cost of illegal immigration were borne by the feds then they might look at fixing the problems.

Diesel_dyk wrote:

The good citizens of Arizona should protest and here is what I would do if I were a US citizen with brown skin living in AZ.


I would sew a red white and blue triangle to my clothes to protest this law.  That would pretty much bring this law into a proper light just like Nazi's made people wear triangles during the height of their racist oppression.

When US Citizens start getting harrassed I would expect to see lawsuits on this one. Of course I would also expect to see more arrests of US citizens to turn these illegal stops into righteous arrests.... just wait and see.


That being said, I don't think that border communities should shoulder the financial burden of illegal immigration. If there is this tacit notion that illegal immigrants help the economy by supplying cheap labor, then the federal govt needs to foot the bill. That was one aspect of the Obamacare bill that was really good, it takes indigent care, ie illegals healthcare, and shifts the funding from the counties to the state... that was a step in the right direction, but its the feds that need to foot the bills and may be if the cost of illegal immigration were borne by the feds then they might look at fixing the problems.

They're only cheap because the people hireing them don't have to match the taxes. They don't work for 2-3 dollars an hour, that's a myth. Instead of passing a law like this, they should do something about the income tax and make up for it other ways.