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2010-04-22 19:33:32
lowing
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destruktion_6143 wrote:

lowing wrote:

destruktion_6143 wrote:


Not sure bout the states, but here in canada, I have been served by people in religious garb plenty of times
really? just how many nuns and priets work at McDonalds anyway?
None, bc being a nun or priest is their job. Just like you don't see Rabbi's, Mullahs working anywhere... weak argument lowing.

I see plenty of people wearing crucifixes, yarmulkes, etc.

But then again, Canada prides itself on its multiculturalism...
It also prides itself on its Curling...What is your point?

Already explained all of this. Sorry if it is void of precious PC.

Do ya really think they will hire some bone head wearing hari crishna crap?  The point was clearly made, try addressing it
2010-04-23 00:50:14
ruisleipa
Member
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lowing wrote:

Big difference dipshit, you want to define every word in a sentence, break down every sentence in a paragraph..and argue each one.

Racist is a pretty big word with a significant meaning, there really isn't any other way to use it or define it except how the dictionary states it.

So if you want to call me prejudice I have have prejudices, if you wantt to say I am a bigot over certain issues, this is also true. But you can not call me a racist based on what I post because I have said nothing that supports white people over any other race. I have posted nothing that supports white failure over any other race, I have not endorsed any double standard that pins white people as superior to any other race. It just does not exist.

How much longer do we have to wait for you or your dumb fuck sensei's explanation how and when Islam has become a race? I ask since you forgot ( again)  to explain that.
Nice insults, if rather juvenile.

Try yourself having a discussion without resorting to childish name calling.

You're racist in the same way some idiot might say 'I'm not racist cos I have a best friend whose black but apart from him all the others are welfare leeches.' Sounds quite a lot like you actually. You deny it and yet it influences all your reasoning.

So, you might not consider yourself racist but just also consider how many of your posts and monaing and bitching have to do with people who are not white. Almost all of them. You DO admit to being prejudiced and bigoted (we can agree on that), but just cos you say you're not racist means bugger all tbh...you're either in denial or you just don't realise the idiocy your constant racist messages reveal.

AS for Islam, as you well kknow most people who are muslim have dark(er) skin. No connection? For you, I suspect the connection is very deep indeed.
2010-04-23 01:10:55
LostFate
Same shit, Different Arsehole
+95|6685|England

lowing wrote:

destruktion_6143 wrote:

lowing wrote:


really? just how many nuns and priets work at McDonalds anyway?
None, bc being a nun or priest is their job. Just like you don't see Rabbi's, Mullahs working anywhere... weak argument lowing.

I see plenty of people wearing crucifixes, yarmulkes, etc.

But then again, Canada prides itself on its multiculturalism...
It also prides itself on its Curling...What is your point?

Already explained all of this. Sorry if it is void of precious PC.

Do ya really think they will hire some bone head wearing hari crishna crap?  The point was clearly made, try addressing it
he has addressed it and proven you wrong, keep it up however though lowing i love reading your opinions and ideas and then laughing about them.
2010-04-23 01:17:16
Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|6875|Canberra, AUS
tl;dr i don't believe in collective punishment. should some person trying to get a job be punished for the actions of some random nutjob 20 000 miles away? fuck off.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
2010-04-23 04:35:16
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6851|USA

ruisleipa wrote:

lowing wrote:

Big difference dipshit, you want to define every word in a sentence, break down every sentence in a paragraph..and argue each one.

Racist is a pretty big word with a significant meaning, there really isn't any other way to use it or define it except how the dictionary states it.

So if you want to call me prejudice I have have prejudices, if you wantt to say I am a bigot over certain issues, this is also true. But you can not call me a racist based on what I post because I have said nothing that supports white people over any other race. I have posted nothing that supports white failure over any other race, I have not endorsed any double standard that pins white people as superior to any other race. It just does not exist.

How much longer do we have to wait for you or your dumb fuck sensei's explanation how and when Islam has become a race? I ask since you forgot ( again)  to explain that.
Nice insults, if rather juvenile.

Try yourself having a discussion without resorting to childish name calling.

You're racist in the same way some idiot might say 'I'm not racist cos I have a best friend whose black but apart from him all the others are welfare leeches.' Sounds quite a lot like you actually. You deny it and yet it influences all your reasoning.

So, you might not consider yourself racist but just also consider how many of your posts and monaing and bitching have to do with people who are not white. Almost all of them. You DO admit to being prejudiced and bigoted (we can agree on that), but just cos you say you're not racist means bugger all tbh...you're either in denial or you just don't realise the idiocy your constant racist messages reveal.

AS for Islam, as you well kknow most people who are muslim have dark(er) skin. No connection? For you, I suspect the connection is very deep indeed.
Sorry asshole, ( I gave up on respectful discussion with you long ago, I guess right around the time you made it clear you would never start) As I have said before, all my opinions are social based. So if you equate leeches, moochers, saggers, gang bangers, etc all with minorities, that would shed some light on how you think far greater than how I think.

For you to associate a religion with the color of someone's skin is telling. 


I speak of the entitlement and of socialism and of liberalism in America. If you associate this with minorities, again it goes toward how you think far greater than how I think.

Do you think I would think any differently about the FT Hood shooter, or post any differently if he were  Muhammad Joe Smith the white Muslim?
Do you think based on what I post that I accept white saggers, gang bangers, leeches or moochers?
You can not answer these questions honestly and maintain your claim that I am a racist with any sort of crediblity.
2010-04-23 04:39:46
lowing
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+1,662|6851|USA

LostFate wrote:

lowing wrote:

destruktion_6143 wrote:


None, bc being a nun or priest is their job. Just like you don't see Rabbi's, Mullahs working anywhere... weak argument lowing.

I see plenty of people wearing crucifixes, yarmulkes, etc.

But then again, Canada prides itself on its multiculturalism...
It also prides itself on its Curling...What is your point?

Already explained all of this. Sorry if it is void of precious PC.

Do ya really think they will hire some bone head wearing hari crishna crap?  The point was clearly made, try addressing it
he has addressed it and proven you wrong, keep it up however though lowing i love reading your opinions and ideas and then laughing about them.
no he didn't. a necklace is hardly the same fuckin thing as "religious garb". A small inconspecuous "beanie" is also hardly noticeable.

and again, the explanation as to why Muslims are being singled out has been made.
I am glad you are reading my posts and getting amused.....You are however, reading my posts, thank you.
2010-04-23 04:40:49
lowing
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+1,662|6851|USA

Spark wrote:

tl;dr i don't believe in collective punishment. should some person trying to get a job be punished for the actions of some random nutjob 20 000 miles away? fuck off.
oh here we go again with its random, its isolated, there is nothing wrong with Islam bullshit
2010-04-23 04:45:01
ruisleipa
Member
+149|6422|teh FIN-land

lowing wrote:

Sorry asshole, ( I gave up on respectful discussion with you long ago, I guess right around the time you made it clear you would never start) As I have said before, all my opinions are social based. So if you equate leeches, moochers, saggers, gang bangers, etc all with minorities, that would shed some light on how you think far greater than how I think.
again, nice juvenile insult. You're really putting your best side forward. nice that I think greater than you think, I can't help but agree, although you're wrong with all of your hopeless assumptions in this post, like you are with all your ridiculous presumptions in ALL your posts.

lowing wrote:

For you to associate a religion with the color of someone's skin is telling.
LMFAO that has to be one of the funniest things I've read in ages. Telling how? Is it as telling as the fact the 90% of the threads and posts you make are to do with race, or less telling than that? I don't associate skin colour and religion. Although it is a simple fact that more muslims are non-caucasian. But then, I'm not the one saying anyone wearing a headscarf looks like a terrorist - you are. Very telling indeed.

lowing wrote:

I speak of the entitlement and of socialism and of liberalism in America. If you associate this with minorities, again it goes toward how you think far greater than how I think.
no, you were betraying your racism by saying everyone who looks like a muslim looks like a terrorist.

lowing wrote:

Do you think I would think any differently about the FT Hood shooter, or post any differently if he were  Muhammad Joe Smith the white Muslim?
Do you think based on what I post that I accept white saggers, gang bangers, leeches or moochers?
You can not answer these questions honestly and maintain your claim that I am a racist with any sort of crediblity.
The answers to those questions are a) no becasue you're bigoted towards muslims anyway, and b) no. But the latter question ignores the fact that the majority of the time you associate not only saggers (whatever the fuck they are) with black people, but also black people with 'moochers' and muslims with 'terrorists'.

Prejudiced, bigoted - you admit to.

racist - you strenuously deny. I wonder why?
2010-04-23 04:46:05
11 Bravo
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+965|5437|Cleveland, Ohio
this is so annoying.  cant even discuss anything in a thread with you two.
2010-04-23 04:48:08
Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|6875|Canberra, AUS

lowing wrote:

Spark wrote:

tl;dr i don't believe in collective punishment. should some person trying to get a job be punished for the actions of some random nutjob 20 000 miles away? fuck off.
oh here we go again with its random, its isolated, there is nothing wrong with Islam bullshit
what happened to the whole judge a person by his/her actions, eh?
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
2010-04-23 04:53:57
ruisleipa
Member
+149|6422|teh FIN-land

11 Bravo wrote:

this is so annoying.  cant even discuss anything in a thread with you two.
you mean brilliant insights like tihs?

11 Bravo wrote:

allah snackbar
2010-04-23 05:04:41
11 Bravo
Banned
+965|5437|Cleveland, Ohio

ruisleipa wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:

this is so annoying.  cant even discuss anything in a thread with you two.
you mean brilliant insights like tihs?

11 Bravo wrote:

allah snackbar
yes....better than you two bickering like some old ladies in EVERY fucking thread you guys are in.
2010-04-23 05:05:17
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6851|USA

ruisleipa wrote:

lowing wrote:

Sorry asshole, ( I gave up on respectful discussion with you long ago, I guess right around the time you made it clear you would never start) As I have said before, all my opinions are social based. So if you equate leeches, moochers, saggers, gang bangers, etc all with minorities, that would shed some light on how you think far greater than how I think.
again, nice juvenile insult. You're really putting your best side forward. nice that I think greater than you think, I can't help but agree, although you're wrong with all of your hopeless assumptions in this post, like you are with all your ridiculous presumptions in ALL your posts.

lowing wrote:

For you to associate a religion with the color of someone's skin is telling.
LMFAO that has to be one of the funniest things I've read in ages. Telling how? Is it as telling as the fact the 90% of the threads and posts you make are to do with race, or less telling than that? I don't associate skin colour and religion. Although it is a simple fact that more muslims are non-caucasian. But then, I'm not the one saying anyone wearing a headscarf looks like a terrorist - you are. Very telling indeed.

lowing wrote:

I speak of the entitlement and of socialism and of liberalism in America. If you associate this with minorities, again it goes toward how you think far greater than how I think.
no, you were betraying your racism by saying everyone who looks like a muslim looks like a terrorist.

lowing wrote:

Do you think I would think any differently about the FT Hood shooter, or post any differently if he were  Muhammad Joe Smith the white Muslim?
Do you think based on what I post that I accept white saggers, gang bangers, leeches or moochers?
You can not answer these questions honestly and maintain your claim that I am a racist with any sort of crediblity.
The answers to those questions are a) no becasue you're bigoted towards muslims anyway, and b) no. But the latter question ignores the fact that the majority of the time you associate not only saggers (whatever the fuck they are) with black people, but also black people with 'moochers' and muslims with 'terrorists'.

Prejudiced, bigoted - you admit to.

racist - you strenuously deny. I wonder why?
Nope, I am not wrong,  you can not find one single post where I associate mooching or leeching with race, not one. Plenty however, of you, or people like you, claiming that association exists . It simply does not.

Sorry if the PC is absent, but when 90% of the terrorists look like Muslims, it is not a far fetched assumption that people will start associating the 2. The last 13 people to have terrorized airliners have been Muslims..what do you really expect? Sorry for the lack of PC, but it does make sense.

Again, given that most terrorism today is carried out by Muslims, associating the look of a Muslim and the look of a terrorist is not a stretch. Again sorry for the lack of PC.

This last paragraph is wrong, saggers are saggers regardless of race, gang bangers are gang bangers, regardless of race,  moochers and leeches are moochers and leeches regsardless of race. You make the racial assumptions based on your thinking. Do not pin your way of thinking on me.
2010-04-23 05:07:09
lowing
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11 Bravo wrote:

this is so annoying.  cant even discuss anything in a thread with you two.
Sure ya can, you can start by explaning how Islam has become a race and how I am a racist for hating it.
2010-04-23 05:09:39
lowing
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+1,662|6851|USA

Spark wrote:

lowing wrote:

Spark wrote:

tl;dr i don't believe in collective punishment. should some person trying to get a job be punished for the actions of some random nutjob 20 000 miles away? fuck off.
oh here we go again with its random, its isolated, there is nothing wrong with Islam bullshit
what happened to the whole judge a person by his/her actions, eh?
It is alive and well. Islam is not an individual.

The thing is, right or wrong, it is completely understandable how a society can associate the look of a Muslim with the look of a terrorist in todays world. Since 90% or greater of the worlds terrorism is conducted by members of the Islamic faith. Yeah including suicide bombers wearing head scarfs. Stereo typing is done in every other aspect of life, now all of a sudden you are shocked that it is done with Islam and terrorism?

Last edited by lowing (2010-04-23 05:10:29)

2010-04-23 05:11:12
Chou
Member
+737|6991
I don't think having a tattoo in your neck makes a restaurant manager want to hire you as a waiter.
It's no racial issue but all about etiquette
2010-04-23 05:16:32
11 Bravo
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lowing wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:

this is so annoying.  cant even discuss anything in a thread with you two.
Sure ya can, you can start by explaning how Islam has become a race and how I am a racist for hating it.
well its not a race and ruis is one of those special people on this forum from finland.

so, if he is allowed to call you a racist then i can call him a fucking retard.

Last edited by 11 Bravo (2010-04-23 05:17:00)

2010-04-23 07:49:31
Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|6875|Canberra, AUS

lowing wrote:

Spark wrote:

lowing wrote:


oh here we go again with its random, its isolated, there is nothing wrong with Islam bullshit
what happened to the whole judge a person by his/her actions, eh?
It is alive and well. Islam is not an individual.

The thing is, right or wrong, it is completely understandable how a society can associate the look of a Muslim with the look of a terrorist in todays world. Since 90% or greater of the worlds terrorism is conducted by members of the Islamic faith. Yeah including suicide bombers wearing head scarfs. Stereo typing is done in every other aspect of life, now all of a sudden you are shocked that it is done with Islam and terrorism?
understandable =/= right
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
2010-04-23 07:57:05
lowing
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Spark wrote:

lowing wrote:

Spark wrote:


what happened to the whole judge a person by his/her actions, eh?
It is alive and well. Islam is not an individual.

The thing is, right or wrong, it is completely understandable how a society can associate the look of a Muslim with the look of a terrorist in todays world. Since 90% or greater of the worlds terrorism is conducted by members of the Islamic faith. Yeah including suicide bombers wearing head scarfs. Stereo typing is done in every other aspect of life, now all of a sudden you are shocked that it is done with Islam and terrorism?
understandable =/= right
Already said "right or wrong". It does appear however that you seem to agree that it is understandable.
2010-04-23 07:59:33
Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|6875|Canberra, AUS
I'm sorely tempted to post a few extreme examples of other things which are "understandable" in the sense of "well I see how that could occur..."
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
2010-04-23 08:00:06
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6851|USA

Spark wrote:

I'm sorely tempted to post a few extreme examples of other things which are "understandable" in the sense of "well I see how that could occur..."
please do, lets talk about them, as long as they are extreme in the sense that it is in the realms of reality

first things first. Do we agree that the attitude toward Islam is understandable?

Last edited by lowing (2010-04-23 08:01:51)

2010-04-23 08:01:17
Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|6875|Canberra, AUS
as in "i understand why the holocaust occured as hitler really did hate jews?" extreme?
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
2010-04-23 08:02:39
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6851|USA

Spark wrote:

as in "i understand why the holocaust occured as hitler really did hate jews?" extreme?
yup he did, however, no one is gassing Muslims as far as I know.
2010-04-23 08:05:37
Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|6875|Canberra, AUS

lowing wrote:

Spark wrote:

as in "i understand why the holocaust occured as hitler really did hate jews?" extreme?
yup he did, however, no one is gassing Muslims as far as I know.
my point is something being understandable is kinda irrelevant.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
2010-04-23 08:21:08
lowing
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+1,662|6851|USA

Spark wrote:

lowing wrote:

Spark wrote:

as in "i understand why the holocaust occured as hitler really did hate jews?" extreme?
yup he did, however, no one is gassing Muslims as far as I know.
my point is something being understandable is kinda irrelevant.
uhhhh no.

90% of all terrorism in the world comes from Islamic followers wearing "religious garb". It is completely understandable how this FACT is relatated to anyone who dresses like them, or follows the same religion as them.

Hitlers hatred was not based in fact but in scapegoating their problems..

the last 13 hijackers of airliners were Muslim. All of the sucide bombers are Muslim... Sorry if their APPEARS to be a pattern

Last edited by lowing (2010-04-23 08:22:04)

 

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