at least we can choose....and they are gone after 4/8 years.Dilbert_X wrote:
Rather have a Queen than a Texan with a drinking problem.
So how come you always choose so badly?
If we have enough of the Queen she gets her head chopped off - its why she's awesome.
If we have enough of the Queen she gets her head chopped off - its why she's awesome.
Fuck Israel
wat? people loved bubba and obama all over the world....Dilbert_X wrote:
So how come you always choose so badly?
If we have enough of the Queen she gets her head chopped off - its why she's awesome.
and no, you dont tbh.
Meh, Jug-Ears will be the end of the Royals.
Fuck Israel
You're quite the one trick pony aren'tchaDilbert_X wrote:
Rather have a Queen than a Texan with a drinking problem.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
I don't think I have an America complex, what does that tell you about the size of my doaster?11 Bravo wrote:
whats with you finnish people on this forum? you must really have small dicks or something. your america complex is getting quite old. i mean really, ruis, you, DU.....fucking sad.PekkaA wrote:
Too few creationism classes here, I think.
Maybe, if we'd get our own bible belt we might drop to an american level.
This thread turned ass-milk right about here. It wasn't much DAST before it, but after it it went the way all DAST-threads end up going.
I need around tree fiddy.
SAT's are bullshit.
I should've said "Try to avoid America bashing" in OP, >.>DonFck wrote:
I don't think I have an America complex, what does that tell you about the size of my doaster?11 Bravo wrote:
whats with you finnish people on this forum? you must really have small dicks or something. your america complex is getting quite old. i mean really, ruis, you, DU.....fucking sad.PekkaA wrote:
Too few creationism classes here, I think.
Maybe, if we'd get our own bible belt we might drop to an american level.
This thread turned ass-milk right about here. It wasn't much DAST before it, but after it it went the way all DAST-threads end up going.
I'm guessing kids in Finland also probably don't have the hands glued to their cell phones 24/7.
I'm the old guy in a lot of my undergrad classes, and it's honestly really disturbing to see all of the fresh-faced kids out of highschool, less than 7 years younger than me, who cannot go 5 minutes without pulling out their phone to text, etc. I know a lot of highschools attempt to prevent stuff like this, but it's indicative of a growing problem IMO.
I left highschool right on the cusp of the handheld gadget revolution (you know, when everyone got access to cellphones and iPods...), and I think it seriously made a significant difference in my ability to, like, concentrate on learning things.
We now live in an age of distractions, and American kids have access to more of them than just about any other adolescents in the world...JMO.
I'm the old guy in a lot of my undergrad classes, and it's honestly really disturbing to see all of the fresh-faced kids out of highschool, less than 7 years younger than me, who cannot go 5 minutes without pulling out their phone to text, etc. I know a lot of highschools attempt to prevent stuff like this, but it's indicative of a growing problem IMO.
I left highschool right on the cusp of the handheld gadget revolution (you know, when everyone got access to cellphones and iPods...), and I think it seriously made a significant difference in my ability to, like, concentrate on learning things.
We now live in an age of distractions, and American kids have access to more of them than just about any other adolescents in the world...JMO.
Money.
Prosperity allows for the European Social Model particular to Finland to function with the 'cultural' disposition it currently has towards 'no child left behind' programs and investing huge amounts of money in education. If the money wasn't there the bottom half of their classes would look just a shitty as everywhere else, and their average would be significantly lower.
Point to a public school with 3 teachers per classroom, all with an MA, ANYWHERE in the world. That's money. And that's money that lets you be liberal with your social programs.
Prosperity allows for the European Social Model particular to Finland to function with the 'cultural' disposition it currently has towards 'no child left behind' programs and investing huge amounts of money in education. If the money wasn't there the bottom half of their classes would look just a shitty as everywhere else, and their average would be significantly lower.
Point to a public school with 3 teachers per classroom, all with an MA, ANYWHERE in the world. That's money. And that's money that lets you be liberal with your social programs.
The shape of an eye in front of the ocean, digging for stones and throwing them against its window pane. Take it down dreamer, take it down deep. - Other Families
It's not like American kids don't get special attention if they need it in school. We have entire special education programs designed to help kids with learning disabilities. Part of the problem is the kids that end up in those programs are stigmatized, teased mercilessly and have a much higher dropout rate. Hell, one of my brothers was in special education programs most of his life and I still make fun of him for it even though he graduated last year
And Pochsy, throwing more money at the situation is not necessarily the solution. In my neck of the woods, teachers are already vastly overpaid. I'm talking six figure salaries plus extensive benefits including full pensions. It would be nice to have two teachers in the classroom working in teams but there's no way we could afford it given their salary scales. My hometown school district is middling at best and already spends $15,000 per student per year. Expanding that spending to $30k a year is just not realistic.
And Pochsy, throwing more money at the situation is not necessarily the solution. In my neck of the woods, teachers are already vastly overpaid. I'm talking six figure salaries plus extensive benefits including full pensions. It would be nice to have two teachers in the classroom working in teams but there's no way we could afford it given their salary scales. My hometown school district is middling at best and already spends $15,000 per student per year. Expanding that spending to $30k a year is just not realistic.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
Oh, agreed. America is hopeless. I should have stated "spending money wisely" is the stipulation. Pay dumber people more money, or use the money to entice better teachers- the choice seems pretty damn obvious.JohnG@lt wrote:
And Pochsy, throwing more money at the situation is not necessarily the solution. In my neck of the woods, teachers are already vastly overpaid. I'm talking six figure salaries plus extensive benefits including full pensions. It would be nice to have two teachers in the classroom working in teams but there's no way we could afford it given their salary scales. My hometown school district is middling at best and already spends $15,000 per student per year. Expanding that spending to $30k a year is just not realistic.
The only problem with my statement after having read over it is more to do with how social programs arise out of economic prosperity. Tat question is too complex to tackle on a gaming forum, however.
The shape of an eye in front of the ocean, digging for stones and throwing them against its window pane. Take it down dreamer, take it down deep. - Other Families
Hopeless is too strong a word. Challenged is a better one. The only way real change can or will ever be effected is by breaking the public service unions here. JFK royally fucked this country over with one swipe of his pen. Until states like New York and California really do end up in bankruptcy court from their debt and governments are elected that care more about fixing problems than buying votes with taxpayer money, nothing will change. It's a serious challenge, and it IS damn near hopeless, but it COULD happenPochsy wrote:
Oh, agreed. America is hopeless. I should have stated "spending money wisely" is the stipulation. Pay dumber people more money, or use the money to entice better teachers- the choice seems pretty damn obvious.JohnG@lt wrote:
And Pochsy, throwing more money at the situation is not necessarily the solution. In my neck of the woods, teachers are already vastly overpaid. I'm talking six figure salaries plus extensive benefits including full pensions. It would be nice to have two teachers in the classroom working in teams but there's no way we could afford it given their salary scales. My hometown school district is middling at best and already spends $15,000 per student per year. Expanding that spending to $30k a year is just not realistic.
The only problem with my statement after having read over it is more to do with how social programs arise out of economic prosperity. Tat question is too complex to tackle on a gaming forum, however.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
Problem with Democracy right tharJohnG@lt wrote:
Hopeless is too strong a word. Challenged is a better one. The only way real change can or will ever be effected is by breaking the public service unions here. JFK royally fucked this country over with one swipe of his pen. Until states like New York and California really do end up in bankruptcy court from their debt and governments are elected that care more about fixing problems than buying votes with taxpayer money, nothing will change. It's a serious challenge, and it IS damn near hopeless, but it COULD happenPochsy wrote:
Oh, agreed. America is hopeless. I should have stated "spending money wisely" is the stipulation. Pay dumber people more money, or use the money to entice better teachers- the choice seems pretty damn obvious.JohnG@lt wrote:
And Pochsy, throwing more money at the situation is not necessarily the solution. In my neck of the woods, teachers are already vastly overpaid. I'm talking six figure salaries plus extensive benefits including full pensions. It would be nice to have two teachers in the classroom working in teams but there's no way we could afford it given their salary scales. My hometown school district is middling at best and already spends $15,000 per student per year. Expanding that spending to $30k a year is just not realistic.
The only problem with my statement after having read over it is more to do with how social programs arise out of economic prosperity. Tat question is too complex to tackle on a gaming forum, however.
Lengthen terms and the elected body tends to become more detached from the needs of the public
Shorten terms and all the elected body cares about getting done is buying votes.