Cyberwolf
Banned
+14|6663
Warned them multiple times but of course they ignored it...Glitched near Train Wreck while on the same team as me...Glitched at Hotel (roof again) while on opposing team...Screenshot proof...

Sorry about 1st SS, hard to see but I had to highlight enemy tag with APC crosshair...But you can see it's the same dude as in the next SS (dunno if his TsF buddy was up on the roof with him, only spotted one in the first SS) 2nd SS is missing enemy tag since I died from a nade from another player while trying to take it...Worked out ok though in the end

Caught : TsF-Limaidor & TsF-Godfather (Feb 12/2006 @ 10:10 AM CST) on Euro Ranked Server

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Cyberwolf
Banned
+14|6663
P.S - If anyone knows the best way to report morons like these...Please inform me. I'm unaware of the formal process to have EA investigate player exploits. Thanks
DUH-Hateful-
Member
+-3|6660
They'll be banned soon enough, just like you were in BHD
WormGuts
Member
+17|6765|Dayton, Ohio
I don't understand why it's wrong to be on a roof if it can be gotten to by jumping, be it from a railing or the roof of a vehicle.  In times of war wouldn't people climlb onto a vehicle then onto a rooftop that would otherwise have no access?  This seems to be a sound strategic plan. 

I don't however condone people using explosives, in ff off servers, to reach roofs that would be otherwise unreachable.
Cyberwolf
Banned
+14|6663
Typical DUH arrogance and ignorance...Oh well! I ensure I was banned from BHD by bad mouthing a Nova Admin while present in a server due to the upcoming release of BF2. I knew I wouldn't be tempted to playing more BHD if I couldn't access it! However I don't need to justify why or why not to you. Simply because I don't care about you or your washed up squad of uber geeks.

Last edited by Cyberwolf (2006-02-12 09:48:41)

Cyberwolf
Banned
+14|6663

WormGuts wrote:

I don't understand why it's wrong to be on a roof if it can be gotten to by jumping, be it from a railing or the roof of a vehicle.  In times of war wouldn't people climlb onto a vehicle then onto a rooftop that would otherwise have no access?  This seems to be a sound strategic plan. 

I don't however condone people using explosives, in ff off servers, to reach roofs that would be otherwise unreachable.
Well both the Hotel Roof & Train Wreck Roof are totally inaccessable unless you exploit a bug in the game/map. No ladders, no grapple (Non SF map), no aircraft, no near by bldings that would allow you to hopp over to it...Load up Karkand as a local server and looks for those buildings. There isn't any legit explanation for a player being on it. The ONLY explanation is exploiting glitches/bug within the game and/or map.

Last edited by Cyberwolf (2006-02-12 09:46:35)

J0hn.F.Kenedy
Member
+-1|6728|Longueuil
how did they get up there ?
lordgeno
Enemy Bush Spotted!
+18|6684|asshole of the planet, NM, USA
The one at the trainwreck i can understand, but the one at the hotel?  isn't there a ladder on that building?  or is that a different building near the one with the ladder.  'cause i've gotten up on a tall building like that and sniped some peeps before.
Cyberwolf
Banned
+14|6663

J0hn.F.Kenedy wrote:

how did they get up there ?
Sorry no one in their right mind will tell explain HOW to exploit the system. It's a bannable/wipable offence to be caught glitching/exploiting game bugs. While it may be pure curiousity, for others they want to learn how to do it. The point of the post is to make people aware of the glitch, how to spot it, and to report illicit behaviour. Not to teach people HOW to do it.
Cyberwolf
Banned
+14|6663

lordgeno wrote:

The one at the trainwreck i can understand, but the one at the hotel?  isn't there a ladder on that building?  or is that a different building near the one with the ladder.  'cause i've gotten up on a tall building like that and sniped some peeps before.
No ladder at Hotel. People often glitch in the building as many previous posts have pointed too... Such as this that I caught a few days back...Your thinking of the next MEC spawn, it has a ladder for sure. The name elludes me at present though. But it's not Hotel.

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oaKenfoLd
Member
+0|6720
My clanmate Sirius thought he was getting shots of TFS clan, but it turns out it was the same knobs as pictured here.  On Karkand, and in there.

He joined their squad and spawned on them, and used voip and told them they should lock the squad if they're going to sploit lol.

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Better image quality on this link in my gallery:

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Thanks to =KHA= Sirius for the heads up.

Last edited by oaKenfoLd (2006-02-12 09:57:27)

RandomZer0
Member
+0|6665
Glitching inside buildings is against the new ROE http://www.bf2rankedservers.com/forums/ … .php?t=251 but they mention nothing about getting on top of buildings.  I think the worst change is commander rule, I'm all for commander not driving but why shouldnt they be able to ride as passenger in an APC.  Not anymore.

And oakenfold you are just as guilty as them, if you spawn on them knowing you'll be in a building.  All you private eyes are gonna get the same treatment as the glitchers.

And its not a glitch or an exploit, its a server setting.  Its called Friendly Fire Off and i dont think saying that is teaching people how to glitch, it teaches them to play on FF on servers.

Last edited by RandomZer0 (2006-02-12 10:04:45)

WormGuts
Member
+17|6765|Dayton, Ohio
Ok i started up a local server and your right those roofs are not accessable.  The one at the hotel that i thought you were talking about was tall building just north on corner of same block.  I've no idea how they could have gotten onto either one of those roofs legaly.  They should be reported no doubt.
Mad dawg
Member
+0|6739
I saw that in a server today too. I had to put arty on a building to get them off. How do u do that. I would never use it. Im just wondering. And how could someone figure something like that out?
[EZLN]Sub.Marcos
Member
+1|6632
Ive done it myself actually, go on a unranked server with ff-off u can c4-jump on all kinds of buildings.
Cyberwolf
Banned
+14|6663

RandomZer0 wrote:

Glitching inside buildings is against the new ROE http://www.bf2rankedservers.com/forums/ … .php?t=251 but they mention nothing about getting on top of buildings.  I think the worst change is commander rule, I'm all for commander not driving but why shouldnt they be able to ride as passenger in an APC.  Not anymore.

And oakenfold you are just as guilty as them, if you spawn on them knowing you'll be in a building.  All you private eyes are gonna get the same treatment as the glitchers.

And its not a glitch or an exploit, its a server setting.  Its called Friendly Fire Off and i dont think saying that is teaching people how to glitch, it teaches them to play on FF on servers.
Random Zero - Do we need to define what a glitch or exploit is? If the game designers did not provide a method to reach the roof (Ladder, Jet/Chopper Ejection, Another Building Close By You Can Hopp Over To, Or Grapple/Zip Line...) then its glitching/exploiting something one way or another.

I point to this section ...

"Players may not use or exploit game mechanisms to artificially boost their score ("stats padding") and Server administrators may not knowingly allow or encourage this activity on their servers.

This would include BUT NOT LIMITED TO : ..."

It's not offically stat padding, but it's still an exploit. In addition, If clan mates or others in the game teamed up and exploited the bug, they COULD padd up there and many people wouldn't notice. It also presents an unfair advantage to other players as they will not expect people to be where they shouldn't.
wrath2210
Web/h0mE
+0|6641
Was Ff Off?
Cyberwolf
Banned
+14|6663

[EZLN]Sub.Marcos wrote:

Ive done it myself actually, go on a unranked server with ff-off u can c4-jump on all kinds of buildings.
ADMIN, Ban this fool for explaining HOW TO glitch/exploit game mechanics.
teh adam
Member
+2|6657
cyberwolf... how do we know it was o a ranked server?

Cyberwolf wrote:

[EZLN]Sub.Marcos wrote:

Ive done it myself actually, go on a unranked server with ff-off u can c4-jump on all kinds of buildings.
ADMIN, Ban this fool for explaining HOW TO glitch/exploit game mechanics.
you can do whatever you want on unranked servers... which he was on. Everyone knows you can use c4 to jump higher its no secret.

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Cyberwolf
Banned
+14|6663

wrath2210 wrote:

Was Ff Off?
I don't recall. I don't make a habit out of team killing people. It doesn't matter if FF is off or not. It's an exploit either way. Any type of explosive jumping goes outside of what the designers intended.
Cbass
Kick His Ass!
+371|6665|Howell, Mi USA
Because people have too much time on their hands mad dog. there is exploits in every game, it's only a matter of time before they are figured out.

These idiots should be reported.
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Cyberwolf
Banned
+14|6663

teh adam wrote:

cyberwolf... how do we know it was o a ranked server?
I'll post the SS of the players in at the time...You'll see everyone has a rank...

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RandomZer0
Member
+0|6665
Actually you are reading it that way, but the ROE says nothing about that, so maybe you should write EA and tell them their only official documentation regarding this matter is incomplete.  FF can be turned off on ranked servers, until they change that, its just something we have to deal with.

Again if you play on FF on servers, like EA recomends for all of its ranked servers (though does NOT require) than you get everything that comes along with it,  who wouldnt be specops on those servers when you wont kill yourself or your team with C4.  Using explosives on a FF off server is glitching to me, but not to the ROE, and we dont make the rules we just play by them
[EZLN]Sub.Marcos
Member
+1|6632
Cyberwolf, on unranked servers, its impossible to stats padd. Also if anyone played bf:vietnam, i bet everyone remembers nade jumping. C4-Jumping isnt a very far fetched idea, and everyone will notice one being tossed up from explosions the first time they play a ff-off server.
teh adam
Member
+2|6657

RandomZer0 wrote:

Actually you are reading it that way, but the ROE says nothing about that, so maybe you should write EA and tell them their only official documentation regarding this matter is incomplete.  FF can be turned off on ranked servers, until they change that, its just something we have to deal with.

Again if you play on FF on servers, like EA recomends for all of its ranked servers (though does NOT require) than you get everything that comes along with it,  who wouldnt be specops on those servers when you wont kill yourself or your team with C4.  Using explosives on a FF off server is glitching to me, but not to the ROE, and we dont make the rules we just play by them
I was trying to argue that about some forms of padding and exploiting... but EA has it so you might not interpret it as padding but they might.

So basically they have it setup so they can screw you on anything because anything could be exploiting the game if EA thought it was.

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