cuz they are all on the run.....
There weren't many of them to begin with TBH.
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lol
Now there are more of them though.
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Has Obama been a success so far ? very, and consider it's been a little over 1 year.
He's a much better speaker and diplomat.11 Bravo wrote:
id like to know how you guys figure that.......not the international crap, but the leader part.Cybargs wrote:
That I can agree with. And the international community likes him a lot as well.Turquoise wrote:
A lot of the policies are the same, but he's certainly a more capable leader than Bush.
Who was the leader, Bush or Cheney?
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more like a used car salesman but w/e.Turquoise wrote:
He's a much better speaker and diplomat.11 Bravo wrote:
id like to know how you guys figure that.......not the international crap, but the leader part.Cybargs wrote:
That I can agree with. And the international community likes him a lot as well.
That's exactly it. Give him a script, a policy, and some stories to throw at you, you have a very compelling argument. Health-care. Haiti. Bailouts. Energy. Iraq. Taxes.11 Bravo wrote:
more like a used car salesman but w/e.Turquoise wrote:
He's a much better speaker and diplomat.11 Bravo wrote:
id like to know how you guys figure that.......not the international crap, but the leader part.
In this case, you can't go back to him if it breaks. If things don't go according to plan, it's the manufacturer's fault. Someone didn't do their job. Someone messed up. But not the man who sold it to you. Not the man who convinced you that things would be better if you bought into the plan. I have nightmares of there being a public outcry, should health-care not work out (as I fear it won't) and the only people at fault, according to the White House and the media, will be the primary care physicians and the insurance companies.
Nobody will blame the administration who implemented the broken system.
I don't' know about you guys, but I'd go get my money back if someone sold me a piece of shit car.
If it doesn't, meaning if health care doesn't float. I thought that didn't need illuminating.Spark wrote:
Could've done better. I still don't agree with him using such extraordinary amounts of political capital on healthcare so early.Eh? How does the economy NOT tanking imply failure?If it doesn't, he'll be a failure.
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Ah. I missed that logical step there, I assumed you meant good economy => failure which seemed completely contradictory to me.unnamednewbie13 wrote:
If it doesn't, meaning if health care doesn't float. I thought that didn't need illuminating.Spark wrote:
Could've done better. I still don't agree with him using such extraordinary amounts of political capital on healthcare so early.Eh? How does the economy NOT tanking imply failure?If it doesn't, he'll be a failure.
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The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
~ Richard Feynman
Well, in the case of the healthcare bill, since the public option is gone, most of the problems that will arise will come from insurance companies that are getting a shit ton of pork now.BigmacK wrote:
That's exactly it. Give him a script, a policy, and some stories to throw at you, you have a very compelling argument. Health-care. Haiti. Bailouts. Energy. Iraq. Taxes.11 Bravo wrote:
more like a used car salesman but w/e.Turquoise wrote:
He's a much better speaker and diplomat.
In this case, you can't go back to him if it breaks. If things don't go according to plan, it's the manufacturer's fault. Someone didn't do their job. Someone messed up. But not the man who sold it to you. Not the man who convinced you that things would be better if you bought into the plan. I have nightmares of there being a public outcry, should health-care not work out (as I fear it won't) and the only people at fault, according to the White House and the media, will be the primary care physicians and the insurance companies.
Nobody will blame the administration who implemented the broken system.
I don't' know about you guys, but I'd go get my money back if someone sold me a piece of shit car.
So, the government is to blame for the pork itself, but the insurance companies are responsible for the lobbying that resulted in the policies of handing out pork.