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2011-07-22 06:30:06

#1051

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6744

Dilbert_X wrote:
Most people I know in the world of science aren't trying to do that. A small number of douchebags perhaps.
Most scientists or researchers write so many papers and get so many citations that they'll have their name in so many places it doesn't matter, and they're mostly trying to make progress so aren't too bothered either way.

'Science' was hijacked at a certain point but its less of a problem now.

and this is exactly the practice of most arts or humanities academics, too. and if you think all that these disciplines have been doing is rehashing the same theory and ideas since the source material's inception, then you have a pitifully poor understanding of academic discourse. it's constantly changing. it's kind of like levelling the accusation at a scientist that all he's been doing for his living is relying upon newtonian physics. just as science has fringe areas of research, so do the other areas of academic research.

Last edited by Uzique (2011-07-22 06:30:52)

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2011-07-22 06:32:01

#1052

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,816|6380|eXtreme to the maX

People from my background?

You're not a blood-royal are you?

Fuck Israel

2011-07-22 06:33:02

#1053

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6744

im referring to people that are state educated, who normally would have left school at age 14 and ended up as some dickensian back-alley character.

Last edited by Uzique (2011-07-22 06:33:18)

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2011-07-22 06:33:32

#1054

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,816|6380|eXtreme to the maX

Uzique wrote:
Dilbert_X wrote:
Most people I know in the world of science aren't trying to do that. A small number of douchebags perhaps.
Most scientists or researchers write so many papers and get so many citations that they'll have their name in so many places it doesn't matter, and they're mostly trying to make progress so aren't too bothered either way.

'Science' was hijacked at a certain point but its less of a problem now.
and this is exactly the practice of most arts or humanities academics, too. and if you think all that these disciplines have been doing is rehashing the same theory and ideas since the source material's inception, then you have a pitifully poor understanding of academic discourse. it's constantly changing. it's kind of like levelling the accusation at a scientist that all he's been doing for his living is relying upon newtonian physics. just as science has fringe areas of research, so do the other areas of academic research.

Academic discourse may evolve, but its hardly breaking new ground in the arts is it?
Chaucer is still dead and his words are much the same.

Fuck Israel

2011-07-22 06:34:16

#1055

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,816|6380|eXtreme to the maX

Uzique wrote:
im referring to people that are state educated, who normally would have left school at age 14 and ended up as some dickensian back-alley character.

I wasn't state educated.

Fuck Israel

2011-07-22 06:35:26

#1056

Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5632|London, England

Uzique wrote:
im referring to people that are state educated, who normally would have left school at age 14 and ended up as some dickensian back-alley character.

Thank god for america eh?

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat

2011-07-22 06:40:43

#1057

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6744

Dilbert_X wrote:
Uzique wrote:
im referring to people that are state educated, who normally would have left school at age 14 and ended up as some dickensian back-alley character.
I wasn't state educated.

well unless you went to public school lets assume that in the 1800's you wouldn't have gone very far.

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2011-07-22 06:41:50

#1058

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6744

Jay wrote:
Uzique wrote:
im referring to people that are state educated, who normally would have left school at age 14 and ended up as some dickensian back-alley character.
Thank god for america eh?

there were other ways to success then other than education. industrial revolution, business, merchant-middle class, etc.

america of course found it easier to shake off the class shackles that were bogging down education, no shit.

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2011-07-23 09:02:31

#1059

Spark: liquid fluoride thorium reactor; +874|6949|Canberra, AUS

that little blip again.

http://www.newscientist.com/blogs/short … nline-news

this one is 2.8 sigma, so pretty significant but not quite there yet to be real hard evidence.

The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
^{~ Richard Feynman}

2011-07-25 01:17:36

#1060

Cheeky_Ninja06: Member; +52|7006|Cambridge, England

Related to above http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-14266358 1 sigma blip for the 140GeV range from the Tevatron

2011-07-25 01:24:43

#1061

Spark: liquid fluoride thorium reactor; +874|6949|Canberra, AUS

1 sigma is pretty insubstantial though

The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
^{~ Richard Feynman}

2011-07-25 02:11:25

#1062

Cheeky_Ninja06: Member; +52|7006|Cambridge, England

It is on its own :p

2011-07-25 23:43:02

#1063

Kmar: Truth is my Bitch; +5,695|6875|132 and Bush

Astronomers Find Largest, Most Distant Reservoir of Water

Xbone Stormsurgezz

2011-07-25 23:48:42

#1064

AussieReaper: ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°); +5,761|6427|what

Oh it's only 12 billion light years away.

Great.

2011-07-26 00:41:13

#1065

unnamednewbie13: Moderator; +2,054|7046|PNW

I'm sure we could build a pipeline to it to wash out Earth's deserts.

2011-07-26 10:51:30

#1066

Trotskygrad: бля; +354|6273|Vortex Ring State

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-14292167

ORLY NAO

2011-07-26 16:13:48

#1067

Kmar: Truth is my Bitch; +5,695|6875|132 and Bush

AussieReaper wrote:
Oh it's only 12 billion light years away.

Great.

You really don't get it.

Xbone Stormsurgezz

2011-07-26 16:22:00

#1068

Kmar: Truth is my Bitch; +5,695|6875|132 and Bush

unnamednewbie13 wrote:
I'm sure we could build a pipeline to it to wash out Earth's deserts.

I don't know if you're trying to be funny.. but the point has nothing to do with getting the water on the edge of the Universe.

Xbone Stormsurgezz

2011-07-26 18:13:12

#1069

unnamednewbie13: Moderator; +2,054|7046|PNW

Nope, I was dead serious.

2011-07-27 01:38:47

#1070

Cheeky_Ninja06: Member; +52|7006|Cambridge, England

Presumably the point is that there are vast quantities of water spread throughout the universe and hence the chances of life are high?

Or the point is that there was lots of water around 12 billion years ago and if it condenses down on to planets then again it makes a high chance of life

Or I could be barking up the wrong tree

2011-07-27 02:03:30

#1071

Kmar: Truth is my Bitch; +5,695|6875|132 and Bush

Cheeky_Ninja06 wrote:
Or the point is that there was lots of water around 12 billion years ago and if it condenses down on to planets then again it makes a high chance of life

We've suspected that there was water early on in the evolution of the Universe, but have not been able to confirm it. This discovery of Water vapor does just that. One theory has the origin of water on Earth delivered by comets during and after the late heavy bombardment. If true this process has likely been repeated many times over the last 12 billion years.

Xbone Stormsurgezz

2011-07-27 03:38:12

#1072

Cheeky_Ninja06: Member; +52|7006|Cambridge, England

I thought the current consensus was that most of the water on earth had come from comets and similar?

2011-07-28 14:27:34

#1073

unnamednewbie13: Moderator; +2,054|7046|PNW

Foreign nations push into space as U.S. pulls back

[...] Now that the shuttle fleet is headed for retirement, the U.S. will travel to the space station on a Russian Soyuz rocket. Russia will charge NASA $63 million to carry an astronaut. And in a unforeseen development, U.S. astronauts are learning Russian so they can converse with the cosmonauts. [...]

NYEEEEEEETTT!!

2011-07-28 14:52:23

#1074

Shocking: sorry you feel that way; +333|6273|...

Evidently the politicians and public have given up on space and NASA.

inane little opines

2011-07-28 16:27:54

#1075

Macbeth: Banned; +2,444|5860

Hands off my Medicare.

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