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Thanks, if I need psychoanalysis I'll most likely go to someone who has some expertise, training or experience though.

Probably not a frustrated artist.

https://www.wcpo.com/news/education/hig … quarantine

more heroic engineers.

i think his point is that they're kept to extra-special standards because every decision they make saves or costs the lives of millions of people.

engineers are blameless when these standards aren't met: it's managers, money men, humanities graduates, etc.

the pressure of conforming to standards weighs on the pure engineers' souls so much, in fact, many of them go mad and must be committed.

it's a tragedy, no other profession involves risks to human life or responsibility for one's work.

did i claim to? no. but your special pleading for the unique plight of engineers is tedious. they can fuck up and cut corners and be unethical, like anyone else in any other industry. you are endlessly self-exculpatory.

and lots of other careers are far more dangerous, more risky, involve more direct threats to life (including the lives of the employee). you don't get anywhere near the same hero worship. you seem to think being an engineer is like being at the vanguard of humanity. it's fucking embarrassing how much of your own self-worth (or rather insecurities) are tied up in your career. it's almost as if it's the only thing in your life.

Dilbert_X wrote:

Next time you're publishing a tome why not approach if the way an engineer has to?

Every line, word, letter, punctuation mark etc has to be perfect, with no grammatical errors or ambiguities, not a single misplaced drop of ink or 300 people will die in a fireball.
Out of a print run of 10 million you can't have a single book with a loose page, a single page with a tear, nick, crease or spot of glue, or a family of four will finish upside down in a ditch or smacked into a wall.
You need to make sure no person in the supply chain, from tree to bookstore, can negatively impact the final product, whether or not they're stupid, inept, malicious, bolshy or just not there when they should be, or a ship will sink or a building will burn down.

Maybe it would put your lazy hipster lifestyle into a bit of perspective.

What the heck is this? A book is not a Ford Pinto. This is worse than your testicles analogy.

Speaking of Pintos, why did it take so much muckraking to expose the inner workings of Ford, when the company, the money men, and the engineers that worked there were aware of the grievous issue. If engineers stress out over fractions of a percent well within material tolerances, why weren't they screaming about this to every reporter they could find.

I've got a bone to pick with the engineers who designed literally every printer I've ever owned.

dilbert has been self-aggrandising engineers as the heroes-of-the-universe for the last 15 years on this forum. it's beyond a meme.

all you have to do is prod him and he starts splooging out quality content about humanities vampires and hipsters.

the man sits in front of a lathe and rotates nuts and bolts in a CAD program and conflates himself with tim berners-lee and the pioneers of the apollo space program.

love to see it etc etc.

what a staggering argument for the god-like powers of engineers.

who are these 'people', by the way? the same who think there are UFOs at roswell and that there's a secret hole to the centre of the earth? who gives a fuck?

it's completely historically illiterate to claim that the pyramids were constructed by an 'engineer'.

you have no idea how egyptians conceived of knowledge, what our resident philosopher larssen would call their 'episteme', their framework and way of even viewing/organizing the world. to say that egyptians had 'scientists' and technicians like 'engineers' is ignorant beyond all belief. even civilizations like the ancient greeks, who are modern compared to pyramid-era egypt, did not divide their 'scientific' activity from cosmological beliefs in a (god-populated) universe/world, or from beliefs in temple healing, rituals, and things akin to magic, really. what sort of 'engineers' believe in household gods and the transmutation of matter? how many engineers would have a numerological relationship to numbers like pythagoras?

also you're just so fucking funny. not only are you an historically illiterate moron, you make no sense even in your own statements.

dilbert: abrahamic world religions are evil, they are medieval cults keeping us all in the dark ages. they have contributed nothing to the world in their 2500 years of existence.

also dilbert: wow cool! ancient egypt had engineers! what an amazing human achievement these people made, who diverted huge amounts of their national wealth and effort, keeping a large population of slaves, towards building elaborate tombs for leaders they worshipped as magical gods! they buried living people and valuables in their well-designed tombs with the dead leaders! these people were so smart! really smart! the smartest!

Last edited by uziq (2020-09-21 03:00:17)

Goodness gracious, just stop talking about ancient Egypt. Such a weird thing to bring up in a positive light when groaning about faith-based tyranny or whatever, and you've already expressed high disdain for history anyway.

uziq wrote:

what did christian, jewish and muslim 'engineers' come up with as equivalents? erm, cathedrals, mosques, synagogues?

Still nothing really comparable with Stonehenge.

they worshipped cats

Maybe they were onto something.