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uziq
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lol at jay feeling the need to stress he likes meat. buddy, we know
Jay
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Mmmmmmm meat
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
Dilbert_X
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Enjoy your obesity and ill-health!
Epstein didn't kill himself
uziq
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to be fair it’s the high-fructose corn syrup in everything that makes americans fat more than meat consumption. you can be a meat eater without getting fat.

Last edited by uziq (2019-10-24 10:34:38)

SuperJail Warden
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I try to avoid sugary food as much as possible. I don't drink soda unless I am at a restaurant. At home I even have a
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41zb+Bgc8gL._AC._SR360,460.jpg
uziq
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why do you need one? looks like a great place to foster bacteria. not sure why you’d opt for an ice machine or a water dispenser when they need to be cleaned and sterilised often.

i drink water throughout the day. i find you lose your taste for soda after going without for a few months. some sort of squash is fine if i want a different flavour. or a herbal/fruit tea.
SuperJail Warden
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The water from the machine taste better than faucet water. It's also colder and hotter too.
unnamednewbie13
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If you go through a bottle relatively quickly, these things are fantastic. Good temps. Some have a refrigerated cabinet which can help make space in your kitchen fridge. I don't really see maintenance as a downer. Keeping surfaces clean and filters changed is something you should be doing anyway. For the bottles, there are service centers you can take them to for sanitization. And I imagine it's more environmentally sound than being in the small-container disposable/recyclable plastics loop.

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I lost most of my taste for soda as well. It still goes good with certain dishes, so I haven't stopped. But on its own it just isn't my thing anymore.
SuperJail Warden
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The school culinary class had an October fest German food event the other day. I am certain the Germans have the worst food of Western Europe.
unnamednewbie13
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Spätzle and rotkohl are pretty good.
uziq
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unnamednewbie13 wrote:

If you go through a bottle relatively quickly, these things are fantastic. Good temps. Some have a refrigerated cabinet which can help make space in your kitchen fridge. I don't really see maintenance as a downer. Keeping surfaces clean and filters changed is something you should be doing anyway. For the bottles, there are service centers you can take them to for sanitization. And I imagine it's more environmentally sound than being in the small-container disposable/recyclable plastics loop.

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I lost most of my taste for soda as well. It still goes good with certain dishes, so I haven't stopped. But on its own it just isn't my thing anymore.
yeah thanks but i don’t fancy having to take something to a ‘service centre’ just so i can drink water. get a britta filter or something.
SuperJail Warden
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I only ever had one fail in my entire life. They are super cheap too.
unnamednewbie13
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Not to suggest that it's a one size fits all solution.

If I didn't have a place right around the corner, I'd do something else. But it's a short drive with regular stops along the way and their water filtration system is a little more robust. Also the unit occupies an otherwise unused nook so isn't really in the way.

Also helps because a pitcher or one of those larger countertop containers would take space that I'm low on.
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i keep a filtered pitcher in my fridge. I replace the filter around every 45-60 days. I've never really been a hot drink guy but i've been drinking a lot more tea at work. It's pretty calming, actually.
uziq
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same re: the filtered pitcher. i also keep a normal pitcher on my work desk throughout the day with some slices of lemon in it. fun!
unnamednewbie13
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Cucumber slices for my work water. Refreshing.
Jay
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Dilbert_X wrote:

Enjoy your obesity and ill-health!
I lost 65 lbs doing the keto diet last year. Carbs = obesity
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
Dilbert_X
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Jay wrote:

I lost 65 lbs
Isn't that like giving birth to octuplets?
The keto diet
LOL OK
Carbs = obesity
Depends, I don't drink 'soda', I get my carbs and bloating from beer.
Epstein didn't kill himself
uziq
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anywhey.

interesting read on the after-life of malthusian thought.
https://www.lrb.co.uk/blog/2019/october/against-malthus

some excerpts:
Malthusian ideas are enjoying a revival, perhaps unsurprising in an age of ecological crisis. Across the world, food and water supplies are critically threatened by climate breakdown. Thanks to the combined effects of pollution and extractive agribusiness, the soil in Britain has fewer than a hundred harvests left. You don’t have to look hard to find someone arguing that we are breeding ourselves into oblivion. To the fear that there will not be enough food for earth’s people, Malthus prescribes a beguilingly simple solution: reduce the number of people on earth. Deep ecologists on the left and eco-fascists on the right have long been united in their opposition to the destructive force of humanity. Paul Ehrlich wrote in The Population Bomb (1968) that ‘the cancer of population growth … must be cut out, by compulsion if voluntary methods fail.’ To save the planet’s biodiversity, David Attenborough has said, ‘population growth has to come to an end.’

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His modern followers follow him in this respect, too. Countries of the global north are responsible for the bulk of historic carbon emissions, but birthrates are higher in the global south. Population Matters, a charity, acknowledges that the rich are more responsible for climate change and suffer fewer of its effects, but still insists that ‘every additional person increases carbon emissions.’ If population is a problem per se, then the effects of climate change, already exposing the global south to more floods, famines and hurricanes, are a blessing in disguise. For the sake of life in general, we must sacrifice some lives in particular: poor ones, racialised ones, ones already deemed disposable. Scarcity must be managed in favour of the – white, wealthy – global north.

A prominent member of Extinction Rebellion has written of the need to ‘rein in immigration’, and the movement’s ‘declaration of rebellion’ cites ‘mass migration’ as a negative consequence of the climate emergency. But this is to redefine those worst affected by climate change as an effect of climate change.

In a time of climate breakdown, it would be easy to call Malthus a prophet – apparently disproved by the startling onset of industrial growth; later vindicated by its disastrous ecological effects. But Malthus isn’t wrong because his sums don’t add up, or because his his hypothesis has been disproved by fresh evidence. He’s wrong because he recast a political problem of production and distribution as a biological problem of reproduction and consumption – distracting from its causes, exculpating its architects and obscuring possible solutions.

Navigating the climate crisis, we have to avoid diagnoses that mistake politics for biology and cruelty for kindness. Climate change is not the original sin of a species doomed to destroy any ecosystem unlucky enough to host it. It’s the result of a carbon-intensive economic system geared towards the accumulation and concentration of wealth. Blaming ‘overpopulation’ for the climate crisis loads the responsibility for environmental disaster not on the companies and carbon industries that have caused it, but on the billions of people trying, on the brink of devastation, to survive.
Dilbert_X
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Overpopulation is the climate crisis, without burning of fossil fuels this population and its high consumption could not be sustained.

We need to reduce population, or everyone needs to start tilling the fields by hand to produce their own food, take your pick.
Epstein didn't kill himself
uziq
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it's almost like you didn't read the post at all and just repeated some mantra. i don't think anyone is denying that continual population growth is unsustainable. the point is there are huge asymmetries and biases involved in the outlook.
Larssen
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Dilbert_X wrote:

Overpopulation is the climate crisis, without burning of fossil fuels this population and its high consumption could not be sustained.

We need to reduce population, or everyone needs to start tilling the fields by hand to produce their own food, take your pick.
Since the 1700s people have been proclaiming the end of the world due to overpopulation.

If climate change is your worry, most of our global pollution is a solvable problem. Some warming is unavoidable but I don't share in the belief that 'the end is nigh'.

Last edited by Larssen (2019-10-25 03:20:55)

Dilbert_X
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Without fossil fuels we would not be able to feed the current population.
If burning fossil fuels is a concern then we need to find a solution to feed the population without them or accept that depopulation is a certainty.

Do you think this is how you're currently fed?

https://foodfreedom.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/china-farmer.jpg

This is how its really done.

https://www.deere.com/assets/images/region-4/products/harvesting/tseries-combine-r2C001197-1024x576.jpg
Epstein didn't kill himself
uziq
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wow! i had no idea!
SuperJail Warden
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Could we make the harvesters electric and the power grid powered by green energy? You would probably save a lot of energy by no longer needing to move around gas from place to place.

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