So I just got called up for military service...

2010-03-03 06:08:25

#101

Cybargs: Moderated; +2,285|6969

Ultrafunkula wrote:
ruisleipa wrote:
Ultrafunkula wrote:

No they won't. Had a dude in my unit with Norwegian and Finnish passports and who was living in Norway. He came willingly when he was asked. He even didn't have to do the full 230 days at the time.
think you misunderstood. I know from expereince that if you are living abroad, have dual nationality, they'll call you up but you don't have to go, but then if you come to Finland they'll make you do it, cos that's what happened to me. Note your mate came to Finland and did his service willingly.
So if a person with dual citizenship happens to come by plane for instance to Finland they'll arrest you and send you to a garrison for the next 6 months even if you decline? I really doubt that.

When did this happen to you and under what circumstances?

No, they just won't let you leave the country. But they'll definitely send you off to boot camp within a few months if you are of age. But it will only occur if the legal name of the passport is exactly the same, since its easier for authorities to trace.

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2010-03-03 06:22:06

#102

Ultrafunkula: Hector: Ding, ding, ding, ding...; +1,975|6726|6 6 4 oh, I forget

Cybargs wrote:
Ultrafunkula wrote:
ruisleipa wrote:

think you misunderstood. I know from expereince that if you are living abroad, have dual nationality, they'll call you up but you don't have to go, but then if you come to Finland they'll make you do it, cos that's what happened to me. Note your mate came to Finland and did his service willingly.
So if a person with dual citizenship happens to come by plane for instance to Finland they'll arrest you and send you to a garrison for the next 6 months even if you decline? I really doubt that.

When did this happen to you and under what circumstances?
No, they just won't let you leave the country. But they'll definitely send you off to boot camp within a few months if you are of age. But it will only occur if the legal name of the passport is exactly the same, since its easier for authorities to trace.

Let me clear up my version a bit. The dude in my unit was asked if he want's to come or not. It wasn't mandatory for him at any point. This was the case in -98 atleast. Therefore I doubt that anyone would be grabbed at the border and forced to the garrison for the next some odd months. One dude who was supposed to join in in the II/98 group (he had been to the teenagers drafting thingie that all kids have here) was neglecting the order and was grabbed at the border when he was coming back to Finland from a trip. He was a hilarious sight marching in formation with his personal clothing on.

Actually my classmate got arrested for not going to the draft. He lost the invitation papers and completely forgot about it. He was pretty freaked out when the cops arrested him at the harbor after a cruise

2010-03-03 06:25:18

#103

Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5610|London, England

Varegg wrote:
Cybargs wrote:
mcminty wrote:

Wikipedia wasn't too clear on it, but this is like serving a year in the civil defence/national guard/reserves, right? So as you said they won't ship you off to Afghanistan, but instead you will stay home and guard the fort. Once your year of service is up, do you get placed in the reserves for a certain period of time? Considering they've just spent a year training you, it would make sense..
I think conscription in Norway is National Guard type. I know for sure he won't get sent to Afghanistan. Sending conscripts to a war is just bad press and political suicide...
Regular conscription is not National Guard like at all ...

After one year of mandatory service you are dismissed and placed in the reserves until you are 55 with training excersises every 4th or 5th year for about 3 weeks each time ...

The National Guard is it's own branch, you can do your mandatory service in the NG and only serve for 6 months but then again you have 1 week repetition each year until you are 44 ...

If you don't "qualify" for regular service you may be placed in various parts of the civil defense after 1 year of civil duty ...

So every 4-5 years you get to shoot a bunch of weapons on the governments dime? Sounds fun to me!

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2010-03-03 09:29:51

#104

unnamednewbie13: Moderator; +2,053|7024|PNW

JohnG@lt wrote:
Quit being a bitch and do your socialist duty

Yeah, for country and all.

lol

2010-03-03 09:40:41

#105

ruisleipa: Member; +149|6475|teh FIN-land

Ultrafunkula wrote:
When did this happen to you and under what circumstances?

long story short. I was living in UK, got called up, Fin govt said I didn't have to do it cos I was living abroad and it costs too much for them to send me home on a plane every month. I said OK. Moved to Finland. Went on trip to Budapest. Border guard stopped me at Vantaa airport on way back, police came, had to go to that mustering hall or whatever it's called and sign up, chose civil service instead of army. I was 28 at the time.

2010-03-03 09:42:54

#106

ruisleipa: Member; +149|6475|teh FIN-land

burnzz wrote:
ruisleipa wrote:
I was 28 at the time.
quote of the day . . .

wut?

2010-03-03 09:43:51

#107

DonFck: Hibernator; +3,227|6884|Finland

ruisleipa wrote:
chose civil service instead of army

Fag.

I didn't mean that, but I just had to say it. You understand, right?

I need around tree fiddy.

2010-03-03 09:44:37

#108

ruisleipa: Member; +149|6475|teh FIN-land

DonFck wrote:
ruisleipa wrote:
chose civil service instead of army
Fag.

I didn't mean that, but I just had to say it. You understand, right?

shall I bother explaining why or would it be a waste of virtual air?

2010-03-03 09:45:14

#109

13urnzz: Banned; +5,830|6750

ruisleipa wrote:
burnzz wrote:
ruisleipa wrote:
I was 28 at the time.
quote of the day . . .
wut?

i will go delete my post - i was thinking out loud, and anything else i say might lead to a misunderstanding.

2010-03-03 09:49:38

#110

DonFck: Hibernator; +3,227|6884|Finland

ruisleipa wrote:
DonFck wrote:
ruisleipa wrote:
chose civil service instead of army
Fag.

I didn't mean that, but I just had to say it. You understand, right?
shall I bother explaining why or would it be a waste of virtual air?

Please do. Although I do understand that stepping into service at 28 with a bunch of 20 year olds as your bosses seems like bizarro-world. Which it is. Which it was. I had an 18 year old Corporal I almost punched because his leadership skills were as developed as his pubic hair.

Also, I understand that having a job where one is needed (E.g. managerial position) hardly gives any time for going into the woods to play war for 6-12 months.

I need around tree fiddy.

2010-03-03 09:51:28

#111

ruisleipa: Member; +149|6475|teh FIN-land

well you just explained it for me. 28 yr old being told by some skinny adolescent to go run 20 km through the forest? fuck that. maybe if I was 18, but not then. Nice cushy civil service post for me thx. PLus I was in the middle of my phd (never finished but anyway) and having fun DJing and stuff so...

2010-03-03 10:11:43

#112

Hurricane2k9: Pendulous Sweaty Balls; +1,538|5954|College Park, MD

Jens, if you can pick your job just go in as like a public affairs specialist or something. You get to meet people, write stories and take pictures.

Or, since it sounds like Norway doesn't send conscripts to war, just be infantry. You get license to talk tough if you do.

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2010-03-03 10:24:20

#113

Jenspm: penis; +1,716|6985|St. Andrews / Oslo

But I'd rather not run around in the woods painted like an idiot and waste two years of my life bro

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2010-03-03 10:35:07

#114

Hurricane2k9: Pendulous Sweaty Balls; +1,538|5954|College Park, MD

Jenspm wrote:
But I'd rather not run around in the woods painted like an idiot and waste two years of my life bro

it'd only be a waste if you let it be. There could be a lot of leadership experience to gain from it.

Do you have any idea what you want to study in uni? If so, just get a job that somewhat pertains to that for your conscription.

2010-03-03 10:45:47

#115

Jenspm: penis; +1,716|6985|St. Andrews / Oslo

Hurricane2k9 wrote:
Jenspm wrote:
But I'd rather not run around in the woods painted like an idiot and waste two years of my life bro
it'd only be a waste if you let it be. There could be a lot of leadership experience to gain from it.

Do you have any idea what you want to study in uni? If so, just get a job that somewhat pertains to that for your conscription.

already applied for Economics.

2010-03-04 03:24:19

#116

max: Vela Incident; +1,652|6820|NYC / Hamburg

Jenspm wrote:
But I'd rather not run around in the woods painted like an idiot and waste two years of my life bro

True that. My time in the army was an utter waste. By now I've wasted directly or indirectly millions in fuel, ammo and materials for absolutely nothing. This country isn't any safer. If anything, by having me in there, it's only worse.

If I didn't have to go, I could have a made a bunch of money. Second car would be nice.

Leadership skills? How many skills do you need when you do paperwork or ordering a bunch of 18 year olds to walk up a mountain and shoot shit? None, that's how many. I learned more in the 2 weeks I interned at a bank.

Shooting guns and first aid? I already knew how to do that.

Only thing I got was liver damage and cheaper guns.

tl;dr Fuck the military. It's an utter waste. It's not like conscription solders will ever be used for anything useful

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2010-03-04 04:01:16

#117

FEOS: Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate; +1,182|6663|'Murka

Generally (no pun intended) conscription is fail. Can't see the benefit to forcing people to serve a relatively short period of time. You don't get the return on investment in training/equipping funds expended, as they rarely choose to make it a career or even extend for another tour.

In an inherently wasteful field like the military, going with something that's proven to be even more wasteful (conscription) makes little sense to me. Unless you simply can't get anyone to volunteer.

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2010-03-04 04:02:54

#118

11 Bravo: Banned; +965|5490|Cleveland, Ohio

max wrote:
Fuck the military.

fuck you

2010-03-04 06:09:25

#119

Iconic Irony: Bare Back Rough Rider; +189|5528|San Angelo, TX

go to kenya much better than norway

2010-03-04 07:02:44

#120

ruisleipa: Member; +149|6475|teh FIN-land

max wrote:
tl;dr Fuck the military. It's an utter waste.

^^^^^^^^^^

wot he said, especially when it comes to a) conscription and b) switzerland

2010-03-04 07:04:26

#121

Ultrafunkula: Hector: Ding, ding, ding, ding...; +1,975|6726|6 6 4 oh, I forget

Poor guys. Can't take it when someone younger is giving orders

2010-03-04 07:05:11

#122

11 Bravo: Banned; +965|5490|Cleveland, Ohio

Ultrafunkula wrote:
Poor guys. Can't take it when someone younger is giving orders

lol.....weak people, brah.

2010-03-04 07:05:27

#123

ruisleipa: Member; +149|6475|teh FIN-land

Ultrafunkula wrote:
Poor guys. Can't take it when someone younger is giving orders

well it's not only the age but partly. depends on what the orders are for and the experience and skills of the person giving the orders as well innit.

2010-03-04 07:08:56

#124

Blade4509: Wrench turnin' fool; +202|5761|America

ruisleipa wrote:
Ultrafunkula wrote:
Poor guys. Can't take it when someone younger is giving orders
well it's not only the age but partly. depends on what the orders are for and the experience and skills of the person giving the orders as well innit.

It's still hilarious to see a 2LT giving a chief orders.

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2010-03-04 07:29:11

#125

JahManRed: wank; +646|6880|IRELAND

Tell them you want to join so you can kill towel heads and get a bit of necro sex while they are still warm.

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