FEOS
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ruisleipa wrote:

Aye, pretending it's all about being anti-Jewish or anti-semitic is all very funny and that. No-one's mentioned Jews until you FEOS, so why bring it up? Nothing to do with Jewishness at all, but that is a convenient reaction to avert any attention from the real issues. Perhaps try addressing some arguments rather than resorting to child-like simplicity yeah? Or admit you're wrong about it.
Gee...you're right.

ruisleipa wrote:

Macbeth wrote:

Good.
YAAAY! ONe of the USA's staunchest allies engages in extra-judicial mureders and assassinations!!! YAAAY! Go Israel! Woot! Now the world's much safer!!!! YAy!

Fuckin cunts the lot of em.
Or not.
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ruisleipa wrote:

Aye, pretending it's all about being anti-Jewish or anti-semitic is all very funny and that. No-one's mentioned Jews until you FEOS, so why bring it up? Nothing to do with Jewishness at all, but that is a convenient reaction to avert any attention from the real issues. Perhaps try addressing some arguments rather than resorting to child-like simplicity yeah? Or admit you're wrong about it.
i think it's a bit obvious since the topics about israel m8
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Cybargs wrote:

Hamas puts responsibility on the "Zionists."

That's a pretty loaded word when talking about Israeli Jews.

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atla … nated.html

Yeah Hamas is totally not racist at all.

http://www.jewishpost.com/images/news/i … rtoons.jpg

Comparing Jews to Nazi's? Really?
And again you totally ignore my points earlier regarding the OP which you still haven't addressed AT ALL. I'm not apologising for Hamas any more than I am Israel. We all know lots of people in the Mid-East hate Israel. It's not surprising. So what? It doesn't alter the wrongness of Israel's policies of assassination and their actions in the West Bank and elsewhere. I never said Hamas weren't racist, but I will say there are plenty of racist Israelis too. Again, so what?

As for the Nazi comparison, others have made it. UN Investigator Richard Faulk in 2008:

The next UN investigator into Israel's conduct in the occupied Palestinian territories is standing by his comments comparing Israeli actions in Gaza to those of the Nazis during World War II.

Richard Falk says he believes that, up until now, Israel has been successful in avoiding the criticism that it is due.

He is scheduled to take up his post for the UN Human Rights Council later in the year.

But Israel wants his mandate changed to investigate Palestinian actions as well.

Professor Falk says he compared the treatment of Palestinians with the Nazis' actions because Israel is punishing the entire population of Gaza.

"If this kind of situation had existed, for instance, in the manner in which China was dealing with Tibet or the Sudanese government was dealing with Darfur I think there'd be no reluctance to make that comparison," he said.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008 … 211548.htm

And also Israeli cabinet minister Yiosef Lapid (dec.), himself from a family of holocaust survivors, in 2007:

The head of the council of the Yad Vashem Holocaust memorial on Saturday assailed Jewish settlers who harass Palestinians in the West Bank city of Hebron, saying the abuse recalled the anti-Semitism of pre-World War Two Europe.

A Yad Vashem spokeswoman told Haaretz that Yad Vashem Council Chairman Yosef (Tommy) Lapid's comments do not reflect the memorial center's position.

Lapid's unusually fierce and public attack was prompted by television footage showing a Hebron settler woman hissing "whore" at her Palestinian neighbor and settler children lobbing rocks at Arab homes.

Lapid, a Holocaust survivor who lost his father to the Nazi genocide, said in a weekly commentary on Israel Radio that the acts of some Hebron settlers reminded him of persecution endured by Jews in his native Yugoslavia on the eve of World War Two.

"It was not crematoria or pogroms that made our life in the diaspora bitter before they began to kill us, but persecution, harassment, stone-throwing, damage to livelihood, intimidation, spitting and scorn," Lapid said.

"I was afraid to go to school, because of the little anti-Semites who used to lay in ambush on the way and beat us up. How is that different from a Palestinian child in Hebron?"
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/815603.html

Not such an outrageous comparison after all is it?
FEOS
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...and so it begins...

...again.
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can we just have instant bans on islam/israel threads
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FEOS wrote:

ruisleipa wrote:

Aye, pretending it's all about being anti-Jewish or anti-semitic is all very funny and that. No-one's mentioned Jews until you FEOS, so why bring it up? Nothing to do with Jewishness at all, but that is a convenient reaction to avert any attention from the real issues. Perhaps try addressing some arguments rather than resorting to child-like simplicity yeah? Or admit you're wrong about it.
Gee...you're right.

ruisleipa wrote:

Macbeth wrote:

Good.
YAAAY! ONe of the USA's staunchest allies engages in extra-judicial mureders and assassinations!!! YAAAY! Go Israel! Woot! Now the world's much safer!!!! YAy!

Fuckin cunts the lot of em.
Or not.
I mentioned Israel, not Jews. I have Jewish friends who hate the Israeli authorities policies. I have no problems with all Jews any more than I do any other religious groups. It's the policies that I disagree with, and the Israeli government, not the Jewish religion in general. Israel is not the same as Jewishness. You can be Jewish without being pro-Israeli, and Israeli without being Jewish.

FatherTed wrote:

i think it's a bit obvious since the topics about israel m8
see above.
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FEOS wrote:

...and so it begins...

...again.
Hell mate, I'm just responding to all these arguments which have fuck all to do with the basic issue in the OP. My argument was against state-sponsored assassination. If we wanna stick with that topic, it's fine by me...
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Sigh everyone just likes to scope out on Israel. What about the shit that's happening in Sudan as the UN says? They aren't even fucking doing shit about it. 2 million already fucking dead and they're still trying to give shit to Israel.
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Cybargs wrote:

Sigh everyone just likes to scope out on Israel. What about the shit that's happening in Sudan as the UN says? They aren't even fucking doing shit about it. 2 million already fucking dead and they're still trying to give shit to Israel.
Hmmm. Still not actually responding to my arguments though are you? wtf has Sudan got to do with anything?
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DBBrinson1 wrote:

Wish they'd off a few more of the fuckers.
Give it time.
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FEOS
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ruisleipa wrote:

FEOS wrote:

ruisleipa wrote:

Aye, pretending it's all about being anti-Jewish or anti-semitic is all very funny and that. No-one's mentioned Jews until you FEOS, so why bring it up? Nothing to do with Jewishness at all, but that is a convenient reaction to avert any attention from the real issues. Perhaps try addressing some arguments rather than resorting to child-like simplicity yeah? Or admit you're wrong about it.
Gee...you're right.

ruisleipa wrote:

YAAAY! ONe of the USA's staunchest allies engages in extra-judicial mureders and assassinations!!! YAAAY! Go Israel! Woot! Now the world's much safer!!!! YAy!

Fuckin cunts the lot of em.
Or not.
I mentioned Israel, not Jews. I have Jewish friends who hate the Israeli authorities policies. I have no problems with all Jews any more than I do any other religious groups. It's the policies that I disagree with, and the Israeli government, not the Jewish religion in general. Israel is not the same as Jewishness. You can be Jewish without being pro-Israeli, and Israeli without being Jewish.

FatherTed wrote:

i think it's a bit obvious since the topics about israel m8
see above.
I was poking fun at the anti-Israeli crowd here, ruisleipa. They tend to deathspiral into "teh Joos" rants, a few key characters in particular. If you didn't notice, I was being sarcastic.

The point being, it could have been anyone--even Hamas itself--that did this. It's quite likely that it was the Mossad, but BFD.

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Cybargs wrote:

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FEOS wrote:

I was poking fun at the anti-Israeli crowd here, ruisleipa. They tend to deathspiral into "teh Joos" rants, a few key characters in particular. If you didn't notice, I was being sarcastic.
ah, no, I didn't notice...one more problem with the internet is you can't always understand how someone means something, right?
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FatherTed wrote:

I didn't realise Israel were the only nation with super sekrit divisions that travel the world and kill people.
I'll have to add to this.

Everyone loves James Bond, but Jimmy B assassinates the bad guys in secret

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FatherTed
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M.O.A.B wrote:

FatherTed wrote:

I didn't realise Israel were the only nation with super sekrit divisions that travel the world and kill people.
I'll have to add to this.

Everyone loves James Bond, but Jimmy B assassinates the bad guys in secret :whoa:
Since this is raam (yeh?) it is worth noting he never notices his own country's failings.
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FatherTed wrote:

Since this is raam (yeh?) it is worth noting he never notices his own country's failings.
lol do you guys still think I'm this ramm bloke? so funny. Can't be me since I'm fully aware that my country(s) has/have failings and I'm more than prepared to admit it. We're only citizens of a country due to an accident of birth anyway.
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ruisleipa wrote:

FatherTed wrote:

Since this is raam (yeh?) it is worth noting he never notices his own country's failings.
lol do you guys still think I'm this ramm bloke? so funny. Can't be me since I'm fully aware that my country(s) has/have failings and I'm more than prepared to admit it. We're only citizens of a country due to an accident of birth anyway.
Accident of birth? My parents planned on my being born here.
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