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we're social, just in different ways

you might not see someone going on facebook all the time as social, but it technically still is

we're less face to face social... but still social

Poseidon wrote:

we're social, just in different ways

you might not see someone going on facebook all the time as social, but it technically still is

we're less face to face social... but still social

Fair enough. But doesn't it still feel slightly discomforting to deal with less and less people on a face to face level and more on a text based system?

Don't you find it odd when nobody even looks at each other in elevators anymore because everyone is on their BB's or iphones?

Back in the old days ignoring other people on the train or bus was called being polite, now it's called being anit-social?

JohnG@lt wrote:

Macbeth wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

we're social, just in different ways

you might not see someone going on facebook all the time as social, but it technically still is

we're less face to face social... but still social

Fair enough. But doesn't it still feel slightly discomforting to deal with less and less people on a face to face level and more on a text based system?

Don't you find it odd when nobody even looks at each other in elevators anymore because everyone is on their BB's or iphones?

I live in NYC. That's been the norm my entire life. You don't strike up random conversations with strangers very often. You also don't make eye contact with people on the street. It's just how it's always been, even before cell phones.

You guys also ignore people getting beat up on subways.

MacBeth you have just impressed the crap out of me. This is actually a good discussion topic. I am lucky because I live in a small town. I know most of the neighbours up and down the street, and wave as I drive past. I work in the city though where no one takes notice of anyone else. Maybe its a Big city vs small town thing. Technology probably does play a part as well. We can get caught up in our Entertainment units/computers etc, and never have to venture into the outside world.

Interesting observation, good OP.

Were people more social?

Strangers no, people waiting for a train or whatever would have just read a paper or waited in silence, maybe the occasional comment about the weather or the crapness of something - they would have been thinking, or thinking about what they were reading though.
Now everyone seems to have an ipod so conversation is impossible.

People who know each other, probably they are less directly social now. I don't get the 'lets meet up and check our texts together' thing.
I have noticed net behaviour spilling out into the real world, people don't converse so much, more just blurt out whatever is on their mind, wait for a brief response and start again. Watching four or five young'uns in a group doing this is funny and sad.
Many don't seem able to do much more than grunt or parrot phrases they've seen on TV but don't understand.

Its the anti-social side which bugs me, people checking their phones every five minutes in the cinema, sitting in meetings or lectures clacking away on their laptops surfing the web or checking emails as if they are the only person in the room, cranking their ipods up in public places so everyone has to listen to it.
Breaking off from real conversations to answer their phone or check texts and deal with trivia really pisses me off. Its basic manners too, if you're talking to me about work planning your social life can wait.
The conversations I overhear are always so banal and padded with nothing. For me a phone is a tool to arrange meetings where you can talk, not something to yak into about drivel.

I took a personal stand right at the start of the rot, phone calls don't need to be more than about one minute 'Pub, 9pm, OK, Bye' is about my record, texts are solely to arrange face to face meetings or relay important information, I refuse to have a Blackberry, if I have a work laptop it doesn't get switched on at home.
I do not have a personal stereo, I see people driving with them on in city traffic FFS.

Last edited by Dilbert_X (2010-01-22 05:00:36)

Braddock wrote:

Many don't seem able to do much more than grunt or parrot phrases they've seen on TV but don't understand.

Dude thats so true. They probably have such boring lives that stuff on TV is some kind of substitute. I dont have an MP3 player, nothing against them as such, but you miss a lot of whats going on around you.

Last edited by Burwhale (2010-01-22 05:08:24)

Dilbert_X wrote:

Braddock wrote:

We face the prospect of a generation of 4Chan'ers who think its okay to go around acting like wankers.

They also don't understand their actions have consequences, like a smack to the head.

Its scary living where kids get a driving license at 16 and they think its just like Gran Turismo, press reset and your car is back together.

Or where kids try to kill other kids because there's "nowt to do"... http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/engl … 473978.stm

JohnG@lt wrote:

Phrozenbot wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

I live in NYC. That's been the norm my entire life. You don't strike up random conversations with strangers very often. You also don't make eye contact with people on the street. It's just how it's always been, even before cell phones.

You guys also ignore people getting beat up on subways.

What do we pay cops for?

It's the same shit over here. Infact I've always heard it was more like than over here than it was in NYC in terms of everyone being like that. Not saying it's a bad thing or anything, really I don't care. It's just how shit is. Who cares. I like it anyway.

On the talk of technology, well I don't care about that either. I'd it's enhancing the social experience anyway. You can be in touch with people much more than you would be able to normally. Information spreads fast. You feel more connected to the world. I say it's a good thing.

Phrozenbot wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

What do we pay cops for?

Eh, that wasn't the point. If some lady is being mugged by a man twice her size, are people just going to stand there and watch? I can understand minding you're own business, but seriously. Weak.

Shouldn't rely on cops first when it comes to defense anyways.

If I can help I will but it's not my job. Why should I risk injury to myself to help a stranger when that is what we pay cops to do? I know you live in Montana where everyone has a gun but Bloomberg in his infinite wisdom (sarcasm) banned handguns within the city limits.

Besides. If it's only a mugging, who cares? I'm not risking my health for someone elses meager possessions. It's only money and makeup and stuff Stopping a rape or a murder or something would be completely different.

JohnG@lt wrote:

Phrozenbot wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

What do we pay cops for?

Eh, that wasn't the point. If some lady is being mugged by a man twice her size, are people just going to stand there and watch? I can understand minding you're own business, but seriously. Weak.

Shouldn't rely on cops first when it comes to defense anyways.

If I can help I will but it's not my job. Why should I risk injury to myself to help a stranger when that is what we pay cops to do? I know you live in Montana where everyone has a gun but Bloomberg in his infinite wisdom (sarcasm) banned handguns within the city limits.

Besides. If it's only a mugging, who cares? I'm not risking my health for someone elses meager possessions. It's only money and makeup and stuff Stopping a rape or a murder or something would be completely different.

John if you want it to be the cops job then I assume you support either an increase in taxes or a decrease in other services to pay for putting a ton more cops on the beat in all areas of town.

And of course, I assume you're willing to put up with the cries of "police state."

Hurricane2k9 wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

Phrozenbot wrote:

Eh, that wasn't the point. If some lady is being mugged by a man twice her size, are people just going to stand there and watch? I can understand minding you're own business, but seriously. Weak.

Shouldn't rely on cops first when it comes to defense anyways.

If I can help I will but it's not my job. Why should I risk injury to myself to help a stranger when that is what we pay cops to do? I know you live in Montana where everyone has a gun but Bloomberg in his infinite wisdom (sarcasm) banned handguns within the city limits.

Besides. If it's only a mugging, who cares? I'm not risking my health for someone elses meager possessions. It's only money and makeup and stuff Stopping a rape or a murder or something would be completely different.

John if you want it to be the cops job then I assume you support either an increase in taxes or a decrease in other services to pay for putting a ton more cops on the beat in all areas of town.

And of course, I assume you're willing to put up with the cries of "police state."

No, we already basically have a 'cop on every corner'. Giuliani did this and I'm already paying the taxes for it. There's no denying that it's been effective because it's essentially dropped the crime rate down to near nil.

I'm not going to be paying higher taxes or deal with decreased services because this is already the state of the city I live in. I say let the cops earn their pay.