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What a fuck up of a company


for those you haven't kept up with this :

NBC chief Jeff Zucker moves Leno after 17 years on Tonight Show to a 10:00 pm slot (The Leno Show) and gave Tonight Show to Conan & the Late Show goes to Jimmy - the Leno Show is pretty much a copy of Tonight Show - Leno Show and Tonight Show ratings just plummet - now at the 7 month mark Jeff Zucker has decided to move Leno back to the 11:30 slot and push Tonight Show to 12:30 and move Late Show to 1:30 - now as of recent Leno may retake the Tonight Show - Conan doesn't want anything to move bc it being unfair to Jimmy being moved back as hour - Fox Network is wanting to get Conan and have a late talk show to compete with Jimmy Kimmel on abc, Dave Letterman on cbs & possible Leno on nbc
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Poseidon
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Conan > Leno > Fallon

I'd love for Conan to move to somewhere like ABC or FOX. Fuck NBC for this shit.
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Ferugson has them all beat...
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Jay
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SEREMAKER wrote:

What a fuck up of a company


for those you haven't kept up with this :

NBC chief Jeff Zucker moves Leno after 17 years on Tonight Show to a 10:00 pm slot (The Leno Show) and gave Tonight Show to Conan & the Late Show goes to Jimmy - the Leno Show is pretty much a copy of Tonight Show - Leno Show and Tonight Show ratings just plummet - now at the 7 month mark Jeff Zucker has decided to move Leno back to the 11:30 slot and push Tonight Show to 12:30 and move Late Show to 1:30 - now as of recent Leno may retake the Tonight Show - Conan doesn't want anything to move bc it being unfair to Jimmy being moved back as hour - Fox Network is wanting to get Conan and have a late talk show to compete with Jimmy Kimmel on abc, Dave Letterman on cbs & possible Leno on nbc
It wasn't the comedy shows ratings that plummeted, it was the local nightly news programs for their affiliates that were hit with bad ratings. The news is how those local stations stayed afloat so decreasing ad revenue was kicking them in the ass.
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lowing
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Ahhh yes, the great dilemma of the 21st century. Who is to be king of late night talk shows? Who will win American Idol? What is to become of Jon and Kate?
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lowing wrote:

Ahhh yes, the great dilemma of the 21st century. Who is to be king of late night talk shows? Who will win American Idol? What is to become of Jon and Kate?
Better than another thread of you bashing non-christians for the fun of it. Yes, yes, I know they bash christianity in turn.
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lowing wrote:

Ahhh yes, the great dilemma of the 21st century. Who is to be king of late night talk shows? Who will win American Idol? What is to become of Jon and Kate?
who will bitch about islam, liberals and minorities the most on a video game forum is whats really important.
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Jay Leno is a punk bitch who cant make up his mind
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DBBrinson1 wrote:

Ferugson has them all beat...
i watch Letterman, try to catch the Late Late show . . .

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oh, and lowing, i feel this is Serious Talk. your opinion =/= my opinion, kthx
west-phoenix-az
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Poseidon wrote:

Conan > Leno
agreed
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Kmar
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Jay Leno is like the Brett Favre of late night.
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I feel like a lot of the same people (probably a younger demographic) who like Letterman's style also like Conan over Leno.  So when Jay was on the Tonite Show, those people could watch Letterman and then switch over to Conan afterward, thus avoiding Leno's tired schtick and getting to watch 2 higher-quality broadcasts in doing so.  When Conan was moved, these same people had to suddenly choose between the two, and the Tonite Show's ratings took a slight hit as a result.  And there's no way the people who attempted to watch Leno's new show could actually stay awake through it to watch the Tonite Show afterwards...that show was essentially Nyquil over a TV screen. 

All in all, I'd say none of this is really Conan's fault.  The way this has been handled by NBC top brass is ridiculous, and it's pretty apparent to all.  I think some NBC exec's should take a cue from Conan and step down from their posts before they cause anymore damage to the network.  Conan, the Olympics, and sports were literally the only thing I think I've cared to watch on their network in the past decade.
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Kmar
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Conan may be stepping down, but I doubt his true intent is to "save the franchise". At least not entirely. He has had offers from Fox sitting on his desk for awhile now.
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just imaigne if the executives have to buy out Conans contract and gets a job on Fox
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Fox admitted that their offers couldn't come close to matching what he was getting from NBC though.  I think the switch would be due, at least in part, to the way this has turned into a debacle concerning a show that Conan has admitted he holds in semi-"sacred" esteem.

Comedy Central should come in out of nowhere and then have Stewart, Colbert, and Conan on a daily basis.  They'd really have the younger market cornered at that point.
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Conan should write for the Simpsons again.
Kmar
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-CARNIFEX-[LOC] wrote:

Fox admitted that their offers couldn't come close to matching what he was getting from NBC though.
Where? I'm curios.. Everything I've read from FOX officially has said they would not talk about it.

Even if it's not as good, if someone is tired of getting pushed around a pay cut may not be out of the question.

The tonight show is down 50% in viewers since Jay left.
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west-phoenix-az
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SEREMAKER wrote:

just imaigne if the executives have to buy out Conans contract and gets a job on Fox
I have no idea what his contract is like, but they may "own" him for the term of the contract. They may be able to keep him off the air, but still pay him. The contract may stop him from going to another show until the NBC contract runs out. NBC and Conan may make a deal that he is let out of the contract early, but not paid the full contract amount. I believe this to be somewhat common for these kinds of contracts.

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w/e his contract states Conan won't be getting shafted

the guy can sit at home and get paid ......... they can move him to a different time slot and get paid ....... they buy out his contract and get paid
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SEREMAKER wrote:

w/e his contract states Conan won't be getting shafted

the guy can sit at home and get paid ......... they can move him to a different time slot and get paid ....... they buy out his contract and get paid
Love him or hate him, Conan's got a Harvard education, NBC won't be able to screw him out of any money, he's a smart guy.

I think he'd do well on Fox, and I'm sure they'd be glad to have him.

+1 for Conan
west-phoenix-az
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SEREMAKER wrote:

w/e his contract states Conan won't be getting shafted

the guy can sit at home and get paid ......... they can move him to a different time slot and get paid ....... they buy out his contract and get paid
Correct, I don't believe he will get shafted. His contract may include the time his show is on. So he may have the option to accept or deny the time change. It all depends on how good his contract is. It could be anything.
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eleven bravo wrote:

lowing wrote:

Ahhh yes, the great dilemma of the 21st century. Who is to be king of late night talk shows? Who will win American Idol? What is to become of Jon and Kate?
who will bitch about islam, liberals and minorities the most on a video game forum is whats really important.
you mean issues that affect our country? Yeah and?

My post goes toward the fact that most people know who won American Idol last year, while having no idea who the VP of the US is.

It goes to the fact that most people know the name of the latest bachelor and have no idea what the 3 branches of our govt. are.

but hey, if you wanna talk about Islam, just note that you brought it up first.
Hurricane2k9
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Lowing I agree with your points about pop culture but c'mon. This forum has proved itself able to debate about intellectual issues. Let us debate something silly and inconsequential in peace.
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JackerP
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Don't think this is an exactly worthy subject but it's interesting and funny so here's some videos about it if anyone hasn't seen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNJxii87O1Y&NR=1  Conan making jokes about it, last joke made me cry

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axwO6BkCtIo Jimmy Kimmel taking shots at Jay while on Jay's show

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A98_-EeXS_I David letterman Discussing the whole situation


There was another of Conan's opening sequence where he starts off saying...

"Hosting “The Tonight Show” has been the fulfillment of a lifelong dream to me. And I want to say to the kids out there watching, you can do anything you want in life unless Jay Leno wants to do it, too."

and then it goes from there but i can't find it.
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