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http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/ja … sphemy-law

List of 25 Blasphemous Quotes Published by Atheist Ireland

1. Jesus Christ, when asked if he was the son of God, in Matthew 26:64: “Thou hast said: nevertheless I say unto you, Hereafter shall ye see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.” According to the Christian Bible, the Jewish chief priests and elders and council deemed this statement by Jesus to be blasphemous, and they sentenced Jesus to death for saying it.

2. Jesus Christ, talking to Jews about their God, in John 8:44: “Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him.” This is one of several chapters in the Christian Bible that can give a scriptural foundation to Christian anti-Semitism. The first part of John 8, the story of “whoever is without sin cast the first stone”, was not in the original version, but was added centuries later. The original John 8 is a debate between Jesus and some Jews. In brief, Jesus calls the Jews who disbelieve him sons of the Devil, the Jews try to stone him, and Jesus runs away and hides.

3. Muhammad, quoted in Hadith of Bukhari, Vol 1 Book 8 Hadith 427: “May Allah curse the Jews and Christians for they built the places of worship at the graves of their prophets.” This quote is attributed to Muhammad on his death-bed as a warning to Muslims not to copy this practice of the Jews and Christians. It is one of several passages in the Koran and in Hadith that can give a scriptural foundation to Islamic anti-Semitism, including the assertion in Sura 5:60 that Allah cursed Jews and turned some of them into apes and swine.

4. Mark Twain, describing the Christian Bible in Letters from the Earth, 1909: “Also it has another name - The Word of God. For the Christian thinks every word of it was dictated by God. It is full of interest. It has noble poetry in it; and some clever fables; and some blood-drenched history; and some good morals; and a wealth of obscenity; and upwards of a thousand lies… But you notice that when the Lord God of Heaven and Earth, adored Father of Man, goes to war, there is no limit. He is totally without mercy - he, who is called the Fountain of Mercy. He slays, slays, slays! All the men, all the beasts, all the boys, all the babies; also all the women and all the girls, except those that have not been deflowered. He makes no distinction between innocent and guilty… What the insane Father required was blood and misery; he was indifferent as to who furnished it.” Twain’s book was published posthumously in 1939. His daughter, Clara Clemens, at first objected to it being published, but later changed her mind in 1960 when she believed that public opinion had grown more tolerant of the expression of such ideas. That was half a century before Fianna Fail and the Green Party imposed a new blasphemy law on the people of Ireland.

5. Tom Lehrer, The Vatican Rag, 1963: “Get in line in that processional, step into that small confessional. There, the guy who’s got religion’ll tell you if your sin’s original. If it is, try playing it safer, drink the wine and chew the wafer. Two, four, six, eight, time to transubstantiate!”

6. Randy Newman, God’s Song, 1972: “And the Lord said: I burn down your cities - how blind you must be. I take from you your children, and you say how blessed are we. You all must be crazy to put your faith in me. That’s why I love mankind.”

7. James Kirkup, The Love That Dares to Speak its Name, 1976: “While they prepared the tomb I kept guard over him. His mother and the Magdalen had gone to fetch clean linen to shroud his nakedness. I was alone with him… I laid my lips around the tip of that great cock, the instrument of our salvation, our eternal joy. The shaft, still throbbed, anointed with death’s final ejaculation.” This extract is from a poem that led to the last successful blasphemy prosecution in Britain, when Denis Lemon was given a suspended prison sentence after he published it in the now-defunct magazine Gay News. In 2002, a public reading of the poem, on the steps of St. Martin-in-the-Fields church in Trafalgar Square, failed to lead to any prosecution. In 2008, the British Parliament abolished the common law offences of blasphemy and blasphemous libel.

8. Matthias, son of Deuteronomy of Gath, in Monty Python’s Life of Brian, 1979: “Look, I had a lovely supper, and all I said to my wife was that piece of halibut was good enough for Jehovah.”

9. Rev Ian Paisley MEP to the Pope in the European Parliament, 1988: “I denounce you as the Antichrist.” Paisley’s website describes the Antichrist as being “a liar, the true son of the father of lies, the original liar from the beginning… he will imitate Christ, a diabolical imitation, Satan transformed into an angel of light, which will deceive the world.”

10. Conor Cruise O’Brien, 1989: “In the last century the Arab thinker Jamal al-Afghani wrote: ‘Every Muslim is sick and his only remedy is in the Koran.’ Unfortunately the sickness gets worse the more the remedy is taken.”

11. Frank Zappa, 1989: “If you want to get together in any exclusive situation and have people love you, fine - but to hang all this desperate sociology on the idea of The Cloud-Guy who has The Big Book, who knows if you’ve been bad or good - and cares about any of it - to hang it all on that, folks, is the chimpanzee part of the brain working.”

12. Salman Rushdie, 1990: “The idea of the sacred is quite simply one of the most conservative notions in any culture, because it seeks to turn other ideas - uncertainty, progress, change - into crimes.” In 1989, Ayatollah Khomeini of Iran issued a fatwa ordering Muslims to kill Rushdie because of blasphemous passages in Rushdie’s novel The Satanic Verses.

13. Bjork, 1995: “I do not believe in religion, but if I had to choose one it would be Buddhism. It seems more livable, closer to men… I’ve been reading about reincarnation, and the Buddhists say we come back as animals and they refer to them as lesser beings. Well, animals aren’t lesser beings, they’re just like us. So I say fuck the Buddhists.”

14. Amanda Donohoe on her role in the Ken Russell movie Lair of the White Worm, 1995: “Spitting on Christ was a great deal of fun. I can’t embrace a male god who has persecuted female sexuality throughout the ages, and that persecution still goes on today all over the world.”

15. George Carlin, 1999: “Religion easily has the greatest bullshit story ever told. Think about it. Religion has actually convinced people that there’s an invisible man living in the sky who watches everything you do, every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a special list of ten things he does not want you to do. And if you do any of these ten things, he has a special place, full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish, where he will send you to live and suffer and burn and choke and scream and cry forever and ever ’til the end of time! But He loves you. He loves you, and He needs money! He always needs money! He’s all-powerful, all-perfect, all-knowing, and all-wise, somehow just can’t handle money! Religion takes in billions of dollars, they pay no taxes, and they always need a little more. Now, talk about a good bullshit story. Holy Shit!”

16. Paul Woodfull as Ding Dong Denny O’Reilly, The Ballad of Jaysus Christ, 2000: “He said me ma’s a virgin and sure no one disagreed, Cause they knew a lad who walks on water’s handy with his feet… Jaysus oh Jaysus, as cool as bleedin’ ice, With all the scrubbers in Israel he could not be enticed, Jaysus oh Jaysus, it’s funny you never rode, Cause it’s you I do be shoutin’ for each time I shoot me load.”

17. Jesus Christ, in Jerry Springer The Opera, 2003: “Actually, I’m a bit gay.” In 2005, the Christian Institute tried to bring a prosecution against the BBC for screening Jerry Springer the Opera, but the UK courts refused to issue a summons.

18. Tim Minchin, Ten-foot Cock and a Few Hundred Virgins, 2005: “So you’re gonna live in paradise, With a ten-foot cock and a few hundred virgins, So you’re gonna sacrifice your life, For a shot at the greener grass, And when the Lord comes down with his shiny rod of judgment, He’s gonna kick my heathen ass.”

19. Richard Dawkins in The God Delusion, 2006: “The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.” In 2007 Turkish publisher Erol Karaaslan was charged with the crime of insulting believers for publishing a Turkish translation of The God Delusion. He was acquitted in 2008, but another charge was brought in 2009. Karaaslan told the court that “it is a right to criticise religions and beliefs as part of the freedom of thought and expression.”

20. Pope Benedict XVI quoting a 14th century Byzantine emperor, 2006: “Show me just what Muhammad brought that was new and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached.” This statement has already led to both outrage and condemnation of the outrage. The Organisation of the Islamic Conference, the world’s largest Muslim body, said it was a “character assassination of the prophet Muhammad”. The Malaysian Prime Minister said that “the Pope must not take lightly the spread of outrage that has been created.” Pakistan’s foreign Ministry spokesperson said that “anyone who describes Islam as a religion as intolerant encourages violence”. The European Commission said that “reactions which are disproportionate and which are tantamount to rejecting freedom of speech are unacceptable.”

21. Christopher Hitchens in God is not Great, 2007: “There is some question as to whether Islam is a separate religion at all… Islam when examined is not much more than a rather obvious and ill-arranged set of plagiarisms, helping itself from earlier books and traditions as occasion appeared to require… It makes immense claims for itself, invokes prostrate submission or ‘surrender’ as a maxim to its adherents, and demands deference and respect from nonbelievers into the bargain. There is nothing-absolutely nothing-in its teachings that can even begin to justify such arrogance and presumption.”

22. PZ Myers, on the Roman Catholic communion host, 2008: “You would not believe how many people are writing to me, insisting that these horrible little crackers (they look like flattened bits of styrofoam) are literally pieces of their god, and that this omnipotent being who created the universe can actually be seriously harmed by some third-rate liberal intellectual at a third-rate university… However, inspired by an old woodcut of Jews stabbing the host, I thought of a simple, quick thing to do: I pierced it with a rusty nail (I hope Jesus’s tetanus shots are up to date). And then I simply threw it in the trash, followed by the classic, decorative items of trash cans everywhere, old coffeegrounds and a banana peel.”

23. Ian O’Doherty, 2009: “(If defamation of religion was illegal) it would be a crime for me to say that the notion of transubstantiation is so ridiculous that even a small child should be able to see the insanity and utter physical impossibility of a piece of bread and some wine somehow taking on corporeal form. It would be a crime for me to say that Islam is a backward desert superstition that has no place in modern, enlightened Europe and it would be a crime to point out that Jewish settlers in Israel who believe they have a God given right to take the land are, frankly, mad. All the above assertions will, no doubt, offend someone or other.”

24. Cardinal Cormac Murphy-O’Connor, 2009: “Whether a person is atheist or any other, there is in fact in my view something not totally human if they leave out the transcendent… we call it God… I think that if you leave that out you are not fully human.” Because atheism is not a religion, the Irish blasphemy law does not protect atheists from abusive and insulting statements about their fundamental beliefs. While atheists are not seeking such protection, we include the statement here to point out that it is discriminatory that this law does not hold all citizens equal.

25. Dermot Ahern, Irish Minister for Justice, introducing his blasphemy law at an Oireachtas Justice Committee meeting, 2009, and referring to comments made about him personally: “They are blasphemous.” Deputy Pat Rabbitte replied: “Given the Minister’s self-image, it could very well be that we are blaspheming,” and Minister Ahern replied: “Deputy Rabbitte says that I am close to the baby Jesus, I am so pure.” So here we have an Irish Justice Minister joking about himself being blasphemed, at a parliamentary Justice Committee discussing his own blasphemy law, that could make his own jokes illegal.

Finally, as a bonus, Micheal Martin, Irish Minister for Foreign Affairs, opposing attempts by Islamic States to make defamation of religion a crime at UN level, 2009: “We believe that the concept of defamation of religion is not consistent with the promotion and protection of human rights. It can be used to justify arbitrary limitations on, or the denial of, freedom of expression. Indeed, Ireland considers that freedom of expression is a key and inherent element in the manifestation of freedom of thought and conscience and as such is complementary to freedom of religion or belief.” Just months after Minister Martin made this comment, his colleague Dermot Ahern introduced Ireland’s new blasphemy law.
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this is directed toward Islamic appeasement and nothing more. Period
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lowing wrote:

this is directed toward Islamic appeasement and nothing more. Period
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lowing wrote:

this is directed toward Islamic appeasement and nothing more. Period
Number fucking 3, did you read it?
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The Sheriff wrote:

lowing wrote:

this is directed toward Islamic appeasement and nothing more. Period
You are high if you think this has nothing to do with fear of Islamic backlash after the cartoon riots.
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LOL Fear of Islamic backlash after cartoon riots? wtf? It's a list published by a group of ATHEISTS who presumably think Islam, Buddhism, Christianity etc are all equally a load of old shit. So WTF has this to do with Islamic backlash to those Danish cartoons - FOUR YEARS AGO?

Although I tell ya I wish I was fuckin high right now.
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ruisleipa wrote:

LOL Fear of Islamic backlash after cartoon riots? wtf? It's a list published by a group of ATHEISTS who presumably think Islam, Buddhism, Christianity etc are all equally a load of old shit. So WTF has this to do with Islamic backlash to those Danish cartoons - FOUR YEARS AGO?

Although I tell ya I wish I was fuckin high right now.
No it is being challenged by the atheists, it is not being pushed by them

As far as your "4 years ago" comment

http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/europe/01 … index.html


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lowing wrote:

ruisleipa wrote:

LOL Fear of Islamic backlash after cartoon riots? wtf? It's a list published by a group of ATHEISTS who presumably think Islam, Buddhism, Christianity etc are all equally a load of old shit. So WTF has this to do with Islamic backlash to those Danish cartoons - FOUR YEARS AGO?

Although I tell ya I wish I was fuckin high right now.
No it is being challenged by the atheists, it is not being pushed by them

As far as your "4 years ago" comment

http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/europe/01 … index.html


TODAYS news ^^^^^^^^^^^^
By an al-Qaeda member. I think we put this one in a different category as this wasn't a random ideological attack, it was more of an assassination attempt.
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Spark wrote:

lowing wrote:

ruisleipa wrote:

LOL Fear of Islamic backlash after cartoon riots? wtf? It's a list published by a group of ATHEISTS who presumably think Islam, Buddhism, Christianity etc are all equally a load of old shit. So WTF has this to do with Islamic backlash to those Danish cartoons - FOUR YEARS AGO?

Although I tell ya I wish I was fuckin high right now.
No it is being challenged by the atheists, it is not being pushed by them

As far as your "4 years ago" comment

http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/europe/01 … index.html


TODAYS news ^^^^^^^^^^^^
By an al-Qaeda member. I think we put this one in a different category as this wasn't a random ideological attack, it was more of an assassination attempt.
The reason for this attempt is what is relevant, and it has already been proven that the one Islamic goon is not alone in his thinking, by radicals and non-radicals alike.
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dude, the mass protests about the cartoons were years ago. One man does not protestS make.

In case you didn't know Ireland is a catholic country. I hardly think their blasphemy laws are sepcifically aimed at appeasing islamists. The list in the OP has fuck all to do with Islamists. God damn you're such a troll.
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That's a shitty law, but I suppose Ireland is one of the few places, especially in Europe, that would be able to get that passed. I despise it because it just gives another excuse for the damn militant type of atheist to act like a douche.
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AussieReaper wrote:

lowing wrote:

this is directed toward Islamic appeasement and nothing more. Period
Number fucking 3, did you read it?
did you even read the article from the link before opening your mouth?

the 25 quotes posted in the OP are in response to the article. Up to 25 000 euros fine for making remarks that some religious nutjob finds offensive.

Now the courts have to decide are there enough offended party(ies) to merit a fine. But how many is enough? Is it to be some sort of sliding scale of offended nutjobs to fines? 1 nutjob = slap on wrist; 10 nutjobs 200 euros; 1000 nutjobs gets you a 2000 euro fine and so on.

To me blasphemy is when as adherent of a religion makes a derogatory comment about their OWN religion. Therefore it is NONE of the government's business. Lowing is right on this as being appeasement (but not just of Muslims) and it makes as much sense as Prohibition did in the US and will be even less effective.
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Thank god in the US we're at least supposedly given free speech.
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ruisleipa wrote:

dude, the mass protests about the cartoons were years ago. One man does not protestS make.

In case you didn't know Ireland is a catholic country. I hardly think their blasphemy laws are sepcifically aimed at appeasing islamists. The list in the OP has fuck all to do with Islamists. God damn you're such a troll.
I see, so you are trying to tell me that if it happened again, there would be no violent protests?  How many years ago this happened is not relevant, unless Islam all of sudden decreed that it is ok to trash Muhammad.

It doesn't matter what YOU think, this anti-blasphamy law was put in place to appease Muslims, they must however go through the PC of saying it is for every religion, for obvious reasons, one being, they don't want to be shown as appeasing Muslims.

WHat current event has happened within any other religion that would make this law a priority, and a must?
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FatherTed wrote:

lowing you're totally wrong btw.
Sorry, nothing has happened ( outside of Islam) that makes trashing a religion a concern. If so , what?
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lowing wrote:

ruisleipa wrote:

dude, the mass protests about the cartoons were years ago. One man does not protestS make.

In case you didn't know Ireland is a catholic country. I hardly think their blasphemy laws are sepcifically aimed at appeasing islamists. The list in the OP has fuck all to do with Islamists. God damn you're such a troll.
I see, so you are trying to tell me that if it happened again, there would be no violent protests?  How many years ago this happened is not relevant, unless Islam all of sudden decreed that it is ok to trash Muhammad.

It doesn't matter what YOU think, this anti-blasphamy law was put in place to appease Muslims, they must however go through the PC of saying it is for every religion, for obvious reasons, one being, they don't want to be shown as appeasing Muslims.

WHat current event has happened within any other religion that would make this law a priority, and a must?
So, just out of interest, how do you know this - are you privy to top-secret meetings of the Irish government? Or are you just divinely inspired by your hatred of Muslims and your faith in Jesus? Or what? Cos it sounds like you think you know an awful lot of shit about stuff. Or...maybe...you're just FULL of shit and are making it all up off the top of your head because it fits in with your angry view of the world? Or maybe you're just such a genius that it doesn't matter what I think but all that matters is what YOU think. Yeah, that must be it.

As for your 'current event' you're asking about, could it be because Ireland is full of fuckin' Catholics? It's not only radical Muslims who dislike blasphemy you know.

Incidentally I think it IS a stupid law, and have no sympathy for ANYONE whether catholic, Muslim or whatever who argues against it on religious grounds - just to point that out, since you seem to think that anyone who disagrees with you is an 'islamic sympathiser' LOL

Anyway, if I can ask you a more on topic question, do you think there should be a blasphemy law at all? If you agree with the Irish atheists why not just say 'I agree with the irish atheists this law is dumb' or whatever instead of turning this thread into yet ANOTHER of your one-trick pony rants?

Just wondering.
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lowing wrote:

FatherTed wrote:

lowing you're totally wrong btw.
Sorry, nothing has happened ( outside of Islam) that makes trashing a religion a concern. If so , what?
Lowing, you're really stretching this one.

While it is true that religious political parties in various European countries have attempted to use the feelings of Muslims concerning blasphemy against their religion as fodder for pushing the censorship of speech against religion overall, this particular case in Ireland was purely brought about by Christian extremists, not Islamic ones.

Ireland barely has much of an Islamic community to begin with.
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ruisleipa wrote:

lowing wrote:

ruisleipa wrote:

dude, the mass protests about the cartoons were years ago. One man does not protestS make.

In case you didn't know Ireland is a catholic country. I hardly think their blasphemy laws are sepcifically aimed at appeasing islamists. The list in the OP has fuck all to do with Islamists. God damn you're such a troll.
I see, so you are trying to tell me that if it happened again, there would be no violent protests?  How many years ago this happened is not relevant, unless Islam all of sudden decreed that it is ok to trash Muhammad.

It doesn't matter what YOU think, this anti-blasphamy law was put in place to appease Muslims, they must however go through the PC of saying it is for every religion, for obvious reasons, one being, they don't want to be shown as appeasing Muslims.

WHat current event has happened within any other religion that would make this law a priority, and a must?
So, just out of interest, how do you know this - are you privy to top-secret meetings of the Irish government? Or are you just divinely inspired by your hatred of Muslims and your faith in Jesus? Or what? Cos it sounds like you think you know an awful lot of shit about stuff. Or...maybe...you're just FULL of shit and are making it all up off the top of your head because it fits in with your angry view of the world? Or maybe you're just such a genius that it doesn't matter what I think but all that matters is what YOU think. Yeah, that must be it.

As for your 'current event' you're asking about, could it be because Ireland is full of fuckin' Catholics? It's not only radical Muslims who dislike blasphemy you know.

Incidentally I think it IS a stupid law, and have no sympathy for ANYONE whether catholic, Muslim or whatever who argues against it on religious grounds - just to point that out, since you seem to think that anyone who disagrees with you is an 'islamic sympathiser' LOL

Anyway, if I can ask you a more on topic question, do you think there should be a blasphemy law at all? If you agree with the Irish atheists why not just say 'I agree with the irish atheists this law is dumb' or whatever instead of turning this thread into yet ANOTHER of your one-trick pony rants?

Just wondering.
I am aware of the world I live in, and very aware of the PC that prevails today. There has never been an issue regarding blasphamy by anyone until it became danderous to piss off the Islamic community. This is where this law stems from, like it or not. The inclusion of all relgigions is nothing more than an attempt to not show the obvious appeasement toward Islam that is being shown.. Period.

I doubt any relgious person likes blasphamy, however, no other group has shown a willingness to murder or destroy over someone's blasphomous words ( or pictures). Sorry, this is for Islam.

I think it is a law that sets our society back years. It goes against freedom of speech and press, a few of the corner stones of western civilization, and it is a perfect example as to how we are losing our grasp of our own way of life, inch by inch.

I do agree with the Irish atheists, I however, am taking it one step furhter than sayingh I agree, by pointing out the reason for it, and adding why this is dangerous legislation.
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Turquoise wrote:

lowing wrote:

FatherTed wrote:

lowing you're totally wrong btw.
Sorry, nothing has happened ( outside of Islam) that makes trashing a religion a concern. If so , what?
Lowing, you're really stretching this one.

While it is true that religious political parties in various European countries have attempted to use the feelings of Muslims concerning blasphemy against their religion as fodder for pushing the censorship of speech against religion overall, this particular case in Ireland was purely brought about by Christian extremists, not Islamic ones.

Ireland barely has much of an Islamic community to begin with.
These laws are popping up in more places than Ireland, and has only been considered a serious consideration after the Islamic actions of recent.

Or can you tell me when, before current events, do you remember this being a serious issue for anyone?

Face it, no one wants to piss of the Muslims,it is far too dangerous to do so.

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lowing wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

lowing wrote:


Sorry, nothing has happened ( outside of Islam) that makes trashing a religion a concern. If so , what?
Lowing, you're really stretching this one.

While it is true that religious political parties in various European countries have attempted to use the feelings of Muslims concerning blasphemy against their religion as fodder for pushing the censorship of speech against religion overall, this particular case in Ireland was purely brought about by Christian extremists, not Islamic ones.

Ireland barely has much of an Islamic community to begin with.
These laws are popping up in more places than Ireland, and has only been considered a serious consideration after the Islamic actions of recent.

Or can you tell me when, before current events, do you remember this being a serious issue for anyone?

Face it, no one wants to piss of the Muslims,it is far too dangerous to do so.
Have you not fucking considered that Ireland is a religious country? What about the fucking bible belt south.
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Cybargs wrote:

lowing wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

Lowing, you're really stretching this one.

While it is true that religious political parties in various European countries have attempted to use the feelings of Muslims concerning blasphemy against their religion as fodder for pushing the censorship of speech against religion overall, this particular case in Ireland was purely brought about by Christian extremists, not Islamic ones.

Ireland barely has much of an Islamic community to begin with.
These laws are popping up in more places than Ireland, and has only been considered a serious consideration after the Islamic actions of recent.

Or can you tell me when, before current events, do you remember this being a serious issue for anyone?

Face it, no one wants to piss of the Muslims,it is far too dangerous to do so.
Have you not fucking considered that Ireland is a religious country? What about the fucking bible belt south.
What about it? We still do not have such tyrannical laws even in the bible belt.

If I am wrong, show me where this has been a pressing issue, before the current events of Islamic back lash

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lowing wrote:

Cybargs wrote:

lowing wrote:


These laws are popping up in more places than Ireland, and has only been considered a serious consideration after the Islamic actions of recent.

Or can you tell me when, before current events, do you remember this being a serious issue for anyone?

Face it, no one wants to piss of the Muslims,it is far too dangerous to do so.
Have you not fucking considered that Ireland is a religious country? What about the fucking bible belt south.
What about it? We still do not have such tyrannical laws even in the bible belt.

If I am wrong, show me where this has been a pressing issue, before the current events of Islamic back lash
You don't need fucking laws when you let the fucking KKK run around loose. Go down to fucking Alabama and say how much you support gay marriage, and see how long you will fucking last.
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Cybargs wrote:

lowing wrote:

Cybargs wrote:


Have you not fucking considered that Ireland is a religious country? What about the fucking bible belt south.
What about it? We still do not have such tyrannical laws even in the bible belt.

If I am wrong, show me where this has been a pressing issue, before the current events of Islamic back lash
You don't need fucking laws when you let the fucking KKK run around loose. Go down to fucking Alabama and say how much you support gay marriage, and see how long you will fucking last.
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Cybargs wrote:

Have you not fucking considered that Ireland is a religious country? What about the fucking bible belt south.
I didn't know Ireland was a theocracy.

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