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I read the on Mx opinion section the other day some dude kept on rambling about a conspiracy that the aussie gov is in the cahoots with the indonesians coz we should set up a processing centre on indonesian soil since most of the boat people are indos... right... people are so fucking dumb in this country sometimes

It's pretty transparent game-playing to be honest. The only reason the Government is seeking to change the Migration Act isn't because they necessarily believe the Malaysia deal is the right thing to do, they're doing it because it's an embarassing back-down if they don't pursue it. But it's an even more embarassing back-down if they fold and agree with the Coalition that Nauru is the best option in order to get the legislation passed. The Coalition is in an easy place here, since the Greens aren't going to help the Government with this one the Coalition can either force the Government into doing it's bidding and pursue the Nauru option, (which looks really bad for the Government,) or decide not to play ball so the amendments can't pass, (which looks really bad for the Government.) It's more likely that the Government will stop trying to push the amendments and blame the Coalition, (as they're already doing to a certain extent,) which will lead to the Coalition pointing out how much the Greens' decision not to back the Government showed that Bob Brown is the puppet master which will lead to renewed calls for a snap election. Meanwhile nothing will happen.

Yawn.

On a side note, anyone see that 'At Home with Julia' thing that got everyone all up in arms? I had to listen to Howard Sattler yesterday trying to be all self-righteous about it between complaining about CHOGM.

What I hope happens is that the amendments fail, the Government says that it's hands have been tied by the opp and moves back to onshore processing and we can forget this whole pathetic farce.

Amazing.

Most of them get accepted, so I'd guess most of them.

tbh I've always found the political argument that government policy means more boats will arrive is fucking ludicrous. Most Australians don't even know what the policy is, how would people in Afghanistan know what Australian government policy is on asylum seekers?

Obvious set-up for an obvious bitch-fest by the Opposition.

Joe Hockey said today that "Australians expect that the tax summit will deliver immedate relief" in regard to tax cuts.

Really Joe? What gave you this idea? In all that I've heard about the tax summit, neither the experts and not the Government have suggested that there would be any immediate moves at all - let alone moves to immediately cut taxes.

See the thing is raising this as a matter is an obvious attempt to make Australians think that this is what they wanted so they empathise with the Opposition when they start bitching and moaning in a week or so. As if they didn't have enough to mean about regarding taxes alone. Mining, carbon and now just taxes. I suggest they don't start given that the Howard Government taxed far higher than the Gillard or Rudd Governments have, and Howard wasn't dealing with global economic uncertainty either.

Ty wrote:

Obvious set-up for an obvious bitch-fest by the Opposition.

I too am tired of this childish point-scoring at the expense of a proper debate in the interests of the country.

Yes.

KuSTaV wrote:

The carbon tax passed?


awwww shit.

time for le tax cuts!

I am confused.

someone explain to me why this carbon tax is a good thing?

what benefit do we get from reducing emissions though. I mean really. Really.

I don't really think it will make any difference long term tbh