Australian politics thread.

2011-09-08 03:25:34

#1151

Ty: Mass Media Casualty; +2,398|7063|Noizyland

What the shit is this about Chris Pyne and Tony Abbott saying that they wouldn't grant a pair to Craig Thomson to attend the birth of his child? I get that the dude's being investigated but this is ridiculous. For one, how cruel to you have to be to deny someone something like that, for two, what possible reason is there to prevent him from going and for three, what could the Opposition possibly gain by picking this fight and raising this as an issue? Are they going to win votes for being the party that stops possibly-in-trouble MPs from attending their child's birth? Honestly.

The party whip Warren Entsch has said that he sees no reason not to grant a pair but Pyne and Abbott... Abbott especially, he's proven that despite his latest efforts to come across as less of a dickhole he's still the same big-eared twat he always was.

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2011-09-08 03:27:24

#1152

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,817|6395|eXtreme to the maX

STFU Pyne is my MP

Maybe I'll smack him next time I see him.

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2011-09-08 03:32:10

#1153

AussieReaper: ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°); +5,761|6442|what

Expecting Abbott to offer a common courtesy?

Surely you jest.

2011-09-08 03:32:56

#1154

Ty: Mass Media Casualty; +2,398|7063|Noizyland

Dilbert_X wrote:
STFU Pyne is my MP

Maybe I'll smack him next time I see him.

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2011-09-08 03:34:43

#1155

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,817|6395|eXtreme to the maX

Abbotts a prick now, can you imagine what he'd be like as PM?

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2011-09-08 03:56:56

#1156

Little BaBy JESUS: m8; +394|6437|'straya

Nuke Parliament and start all over again.

2011-09-12 18:33:01

#1157

Spark: liquid fluoride thorium reactor; +874|6963|Canberra, AUS

Looks like a change in tactics from the govt side. They've decided to try a pincer/staring contest tactic. Not sure it's wise, but at least it's a strategy of some kind.

The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
^{~ Richard Feynman}

2011-09-12 19:07:16

#1158

Spark: liquid fluoride thorium reactor; +874|6963|Canberra, AUS

ct legislation is being introduced now.

The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
^{~ Richard Feynman}

2011-09-13 03:12:06

#1159

Ty: Mass Media Casualty; +2,398|7063|Noizyland

Albanese had a point - why did the Oppostition ask for more time when they have made it quite clear that they only way they would ever vote is "no" anyway?

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2011-09-13 05:46:07

#1160

Jaekus: I'm the matchstick that you'll never lose; +957|5467|Sydney

Politics is a joke in Australia right now. I've been making a conscious effort not to pay attention because I don't want to feel frustrated by it all.

2011-09-13 06:17:08

#1161

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,817|6395|eXtreme to the maX

Jaekus wrote:
Politics is a joke in Australia right now. I've been making a conscious effort not to pay attention because I don't want to feel frustrated by it all.

I'd like to see Labour gone, Abbott gone, anything else to replace them would be fine - even the GOP.

Edit: Corrected for pedant.

Last edited by Dilbert_X (2011-09-13 06:27:41)

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2011-09-13 06:21:19

#1162

AussieReaper: ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°); +5,761|6442|what

Dilbert_X wrote:
Labour

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I just wish they would implement a carbon tax, and treat asylum seekers as humans.

2011-09-13 06:26:51

#1163

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,817|6395|eXtreme to the maX

Sorry, the UK had the Labour party for a long time before. Why did they even pick the US spelling?

A carbon tax, properly implemented, would be terrific. I have no confidence they'll do either.

There's no problem treating asylum seekers properly, what to do with illegal economic migrants though? If it were too easy we'd be swamped, by people like me.

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2011-09-13 06:30:30

#1164

AussieReaper: ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°); +5,761|6442|what

Dilbert_X wrote:
There's no problem treating asylum seekers properly, what to do with illegal economic migrants though? If it were too easy we'd be swamped, by people like me.

Can't really do much to stamp down on the illegal migrants, other than force employers to run background checks on any new staff they hire. But I doubt that would work.

2011-09-13 06:34:48

#1165

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,817|6395|eXtreme to the maX

Dodgy, unregistered employers aren't going to be running too many checks.

The problem is, having a small population is what keeps Aus afloat and gives the quality of life. Let everyone in and it would end up like Bangladesh.

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2011-09-13 20:57:21

#1166

Ty: Mass Media Casualty; +2,398|7063|Noizyland

Dilbert_X wrote:
Sorry, the UK had the Labour party for a long time before. Why did they even pick the US spelling?

NZ has a Labour party too.

Gillard was pretty good on her carbon tax legislation aside from one thing - she forgot to release an updated Treasury prediction before she introduced it. Derp. This is annoying because again there will be these stupid calls like "Julia Gillard is a liar" and the use of the name "Juliar" which has never been funny or clever.

Then there's the media inquiry which I think is needed. Listening to 4BC in Queensland they are already calling Campbell Newman the next Premier. And yeah, while Anna Bligh has as much chance of winning the next election as she does sprouting wings and learning to fly it still reeks of the Fox News "countdown until George Bush is re-elected" that happened in 2004. I listen to people like Howard Sattler and Alan Jones as part of my job I can say with confidence that these guys reflect this News Ltd./Fox mentality of presenting opinion as fact and threatening character assassinations to anyone who doesn't reflect their view. It's dangerous. Having an inquiry should help make sure that Australia doesn't wind up with the same toxic media the US has to deal with.

Also while the Government has said that they won't be looking at the concentration of ownership of the media the fact remains that you can't actually have an inquiry without looking at ownership. I thought that would be obvious.

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2011-09-13 21:11:41

#1167

Cybargs: Moderated; +2,285|7005

Dilbert_X wrote:
Dodgy, unregistered employers aren't going to be running too many checks.

The problem is, having a small population is what keeps Aus afloat and gives the quality of life. Let everyone in and it would end up like Bangladesh.

Uhhh that ain't true, most cities would more likely expand (look at sydney's west). Australia is a big fucking country we got the space.

If anyone bitches about Australia's immigration policy, go have a look at how other countries treat immigrants. You bet your ass a visa to china is gonna hurt your wallet and is gonna be a long ass process.

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2011-09-13 21:16:11

#1168

AussieReaper: ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°); +5,761|6442|what

But cybargs we hardly have the infrastructure to support the current population.

We need more homes, rail, roads, hospitals etc Have you never played Sim City before?

2011-09-13 21:17:24

#1169

13urnzz: Banned; +5,830|6786

Sim City, Australian edition. i can see it now . . .

2011-09-13 21:34:26

#1170

Ty: Mass Media Casualty; +2,398|7063|Noizyland

AussieReaper wrote:
But cybargs we hardly have the infrastructure to support the current population.

We need more homes, rail, roads, hospitals etc Have you never played Sim City before?

You also need more skilled workers to build that infrastructure though as Australia has a shortage. Particularly in regional areas where mining companies have soaked up all the workers. If you had more skilled workers you'd be more able to build the homes, rail, roads, hospitals and other infrastructure needed to support the population.

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2011-09-13 21:39:46

#1171

Cybargs: Moderated; +2,285|7005

Ty wrote:
AussieReaper wrote:
But cybargs we hardly have the infrastructure to support the current population.

We need more homes, rail, roads, hospitals etc Have you never played Sim City before?
You also need more skilled workers to build that infrastructure though as Australia has a shortage. Particularly in regional areas where mining companies have soaked up all the workers. If you had more skilled workers you'd be more able to build the homes, rail, roads, hospitals and other infrastructure needed to support the population.

We need to import some Mexicans.

Reaper: I doubt anyone would want to move to Aus without finding a place to live and a job first. Visa's aren't easy to get, you need a visa sponsor (usually for jobs), lots of money in bank and all sorts of shit.

We don't necessarily need to build rails everywhere, though it is nice to live next to a station XD Sydney is fine tbh, still lots of available homes in upper north shore and western suburbs.

2011-09-14 02:05:26

#1172

TimmmmaaaaH: Damn, I... had something for this; +725|6728|Brisbane, Australia

Cybargs wrote:
Dilbert_X wrote:
Dodgy, unregistered employers aren't going to be running too many checks.

The problem is, having a small population is what keeps Aus afloat and gives the quality of life. Let everyone in and it would end up like Bangladesh.
Uhhh that ain't true, most cities would more likely expand (look at sydney's west). Australia is a big fucking country we got the space.

If anyone bitches about Australia's immigration policy, go have a look at how other countries treat immigrants. You bet your ass a visa to china is gonna hurt your wallet and is gonna be a long ass process.

Heh, "look at sydney's west". That is a fantastic example of how retarded our long term infrastructure and planning is. I am all for letting in immigrants, economic or refugee, but politics in this (and basically every other country) is so short term and vote chase orientated that I have serious doubts about anything close to appropriate infrastructure investments ever happening.

On another topic, these recent mining industry ads are absolutely appalling. There needs to be some kind of wealth return from these mining companies back into public infrastructure and other public projects. Government may waste money in some areas and move at a glacial pace but that doesn't mean private mega-corporations should be making these gigantic profits selling Australia's natural resources to other countries. *cant afford mining super profits tax* *makes largest profit in Australian history next quarter*

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2011-09-14 02:22:52

#1173

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,817|6395|eXtreme to the maX

Agreed, they should be paying much higher 'resources rent', not the token sum they pay now, and/or they can invest in moving up the value chain.

Otherwise heres my business plan:

The Australian banks have loads of gold in them.
I am prepared to transport said gold to China and sell it.
I think it would be fair if I paid the banks 10-20% of the value of that gold - I will keep the remaining 80-90% as profit and to cover the costs of transport, wages etc.
I expect the govt to provide all the required infrastructure, roads, ports, skilled employees and so on.
I also expect the govt to subsidise the fuel I use for transport.

Sound fair?
Thats basically what the mining companies are doing.

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2011-09-21 05:32:49

#1174

Jaekus: I'm the matchstick that you'll never lose; +957|5467|Sydney

Finally, a voice of reason in the asylum seeker cheap-political-point-scoring-football-thinly-veiled-as-a-"debate" that continues to be the focus of the media - http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-09-21/f … ry/2910276

2011-09-21 06:31:34

#1175

Spark: liquid fluoride thorium reactor; +874|6963|Canberra, AUS

I'm still hoping that this is a clever pincer move by Gillard to snooker Abbott into looking like a tool when she announces that there's no alternative but to return to onshore processing.

The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
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