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What are the shit employment controls?  I'm a big fan of the birthright citizenship program, but I can understand why it doesn't work for other countries.

realistically it attracts super wealth chinese. buying them 3 mil dollar houses with cash coz they aren't plebs.

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

What are the shit employment controls?

Only people who are in the country legally and with a permit to work are allowed to work, if they're caught they and the employer get a fat fine, prison, and at the end of it a trip to another country.

It helps deal with an unwanted underclass, the black economy and the low-value immigrants Jay finds so offensive to his eyes.

It's on! Again! Allegedly!

In fairness in February Abbott asked for six months to "turn it around."  In that time he's done squat. If anything he should just stand down.

Malcom's resigned. Probably for the best, he was doing bugger all as Communications Minister. Not that anyone else has been doing much.

Question is whether this is a genuine challenge or whether it's like what we saw when Rudd resigned as Foreign Minister. Turnbull could be throwing himself on a grenade before the Canning by-election to defuse all the leadership talk. But I don't see it. For one Julie Bishop's lined up to be his deputy. For two, Abbott did make that plea six months ago. For three, Turnbull's denouncement of the Abbott leadership has been spot on and I think everyone knows it. Not like Rudd's generic "lost its direction" line.

What does Abbott have left to argue with? I don't think anyone can believe that he will turn things around, not when he takes good press such as the 12,000 refugee thing and immediately stands underneath a boom mic with that balding tit he appointed Immigration Minister guffawing about the people of Kiribati living out their days in ankle deep water. He can't do a fucking thing right. And what has he got from now until the next election? Any policies to push though? Any vision? Nothing. Not a thing. Try half-heartedly to manipulate numerous stalled policies through the Senate. Bring out a national security talk-piece every week. Get Joe to point out the bleeding obvious to business professionals and economists who know more than him. Blame Labor. Say he stopped the boats again. We've had two years of this already from him. He's spent.

I think I might be about to see my fifth PM in the five years I've been doing my vaguely-connected-to-Australian-politics job.

So Malcolm Leader, Julie Deputy, Scott as Treasurer - that's actually a pretty damn able team. One that has a real chance against Bin Spitting. One that I don't like, particularly the second two, but one that is capable. One that doesn't give important roles to clowns and defends their inadequate performances by trying to pass off loyalty as a good thing - we know you're loyal to your mates Tones, how about being loyal to the people who entrusted you to lead a government that can do a good job!

Ooh what fun. Be more fun when Malcolm's colleagues remember why they dumped him.

I don't care for Abbott, I predict Turnbull will be a Gordon Brown - smug in his own cleverness but out of his depth when it comes to actually doing anything productive in the long term for the country.

I like Douglas Adams theory, the person who most wants to be leader is the person who should definitely not be allowed to be leader.

I don't care what anyone is thinking, I'd like them get on with running the country.

I'm ready

Its bad enough SA is 30 minutes out of step, why does NZ thinks its special enough to be in a different time zone?

Ty wrote:

Plus it'll annoy Broken Hill.

And Ceduna

"If Abbott wins, then it's hard to see how Turnbull could stay in the backbench - or, for that matter, Julie Bishop. If Turnbull wins, then Abbott and now clearly Hockey are gone.

Furthermore, how's that election going to go? Whoever triumphs this evening is going to preside over a broken party, having lost a good slab of the frontbench, and also still preside over the same economic and political woes that got them here in the first place.

For Abbott, he can hardly knife Hockey without looking disloyal, which means going to the electorate with the same two people largely blamed for the state of the country. Alternatively, the Liberals can pin their hopes on a leader popular largely with people that wouldn't vote for the party in the first place."

http://www.smh.com.au/comment/view-from … jmh7b.html