lolRDMC wrote:
lol I read that as 'trying to gain 70kg in a year'.Kampframmer wrote:
My goal was to get to 70kg+ in a year, but i don't really see that happening
According to the 'professional' scale at the gym, about 72, and 69 without clothes. According to the scale at home, about 73KG.SonderKommando wrote:
Thats awesome! how much you weighing these days?Jebus wrote:
Genetics play a big role too, and ofcourse the muscle(mass) in that certain area.
Anyway, 140KG x 4 deadlift today, I'm happy 3 plates achieved!
Whats your target weight? And are you going to cut when you reach it?Jebus wrote:
According to the 'professional' scale at the gym, about 72, and 69 without clothes. According to the scale at home, about 73KG.SonderKommando wrote:
Thats awesome! how much you weighing these days?Jebus wrote:
Genetics play a big role too, and ofcourse the muscle(mass) in that certain area.
Anyway, 140KG x 4 deadlift today, I'm happy 3 plates achieved!
Gonna start cutting a bit when I reach 75KG's on the home scale. Gotta start running more anyway, my endurance is way less than it used to be, and I'm plannin quite a few surf trips this summer; so I'll need it
My target is to drop to 82KG and stay there while cutting body fat % and gaining muscle. Currently 85-86KG. Losing steadily but afraid I'll go back to old habits (binge drink/eat)
I'm aiming a little lower. I'll stop at 72-ish and then cut back to 70, which should about put my BF in the single digits. Well.. thats the idea.Jebus wrote:
Gonna start cutting a bit when I reach 75KG's on the home scale. Gotta start running more anyway, my endurance is way less than it used to be, and I'm plannin quite a few surf trips this summer; so I'll need it
no it doesn't because you may have accumulated fat in different areas and because your abs may not be very strongJaekus wrote:
Yes it does.HaiBai wrote:
body fat percentage does not dictate whether your abs are visibleKampframmer wrote:
9% without visible abs eh?
I've been thinking about getting my BF% measured. I've always guessed myself at 11-ish % and i have visible abs so maybe i'm completely wrong.
I have stepped on a scale that told me my bf%, but that was a few years ago. I don't see how a machine with such a simple system could tell all that exact, but than again, technology can do some amazing things, although i do think yours may have been wrong here and there(regular sportpants and a shirt don't tend to weigh 3kg )
If you really want all that data checked correctly, i bet there's specialist for that kind of thing.
dont be dumb
Stronger abs will make it show a little better, but if youre fat, doing a 1000 crunches every day isnt going to make your abs visible. As for fat accumulation: Most men accumulate most fat on their hips and abdomen. Sure, some people may have a slight genetic advantage, but a lot of it does depend on bf%HaiBai wrote:
no it doesn't because you may have accumulated fat in different areas and because your abs may not be very strongJaekus wrote:
Yes it does.HaiBai wrote:
body fat percentage does not dictate whether your abs are visible
dont be dumb
that's not my point.Kampframmer wrote:
Stronger abs will make it show a little better, but if youre fat, doing a 1000 crunches every day isnt going to make your abs visible. As for fat accumulation: Most men accumulate most fat on their hips and abdomen. Sure, some people may have a slight genetic advantage, but a lot of it does depend on bf%HaiBai wrote:
no it doesn't because you may have accumulated fat in different areas and because your abs may not be very strongJaekus wrote:
Yes it does.
dont be dumb
someone can have 5% body fat and have no abs visible while someone can have 15% body fat and have visible abs
Both sound very unlikely, especially the first.HaiBai wrote:
that's not my point.Kampframmer wrote:
Stronger abs will make it show a little better, but if youre fat, doing a 1000 crunches every day isnt going to make your abs visible. As for fat accumulation: Most men accumulate most fat on their hips and abdomen. Sure, some people may have a slight genetic advantage, but a lot of it does depend on bf%HaiBai wrote:
no it doesn't because you may have accumulated fat in different areas and because your abs may not be very strong
dont be dumb
someone can have 5% body fat and have no abs visible while someone can have 15% body fat and have visible abs
no visible abs
thats an image from an anorexia article, so don't say the guy is actually fatter then he looks or etc.
The person in that pic has very little muscle mass. I said stronger abs will make show a little better (maybe a little more for extreme cases like the pic) i also said unlikely, not impossible. I haven't seen everything
Dont you think an anorexia patient is a bit of an extreme case to prove you point?
thats exactly why body fat percentage does not dictate whether your abs are visibleKampframmer wrote:
The person in that pic has very little muscle mass. I said stronger abs will make show a little better (maybe a little more for extreme cases like the pic) i also said unlikely, not impossible. I haven't seen everything
it does not take into account where your fat has accumulated and how strong your abs are
It's as good a yardstick as any though so stop being a pedant
It does play a big part in it for you average joeHaiBai wrote:
thats exactly why body fat percentage does not dictate whether your abs are visibleKampframmer wrote:
The person in that pic has very little muscle mass. I said stronger abs will make show a little better (maybe a little more for extreme cases like the pic) i also said unlikely, not impossible. I haven't seen everything
it does not take into account where your fat has accumulated and how strong your abs are
i know, but just because your abs are visible while another person who has lower body fat percentage then you whose abs dont show doesnt mean your body fat percentage is higher then you though. which is what happened on the previous page
Wasnt that whole reason of his post? He wanted to know of the scale was accurate. Maybe it was off or maybe Jebus is an average guy that has no visible abs with 9% bf.HaiBai wrote:
no, because if you read the previous page, you would've noticed that Jebus is at 9% body fat yet his abs are not visibleKampframmer wrote:
Dont you think an anorexia patient is a bit of an extreme case to prove you point?
I never claimed it to be impossible or bullshit, i just said unlikely.
No, it might not. But if his scale was accurate than i just might check mine. And yes, there will be the possibility that one (or both) of us is an exception.HaiBai wrote:
i know, but just because your abs are visible while another person who has lower body fat percentage then you whose abs dont show doesnt mean your body fat percentage is higher then you though. which is what happened on the previous page
or, it could be the much more likely explanation in which body fat does not dictate whether your abs are visibleKampframmer wrote:
No, it might not. But if his scale was accurate than i just might check mine. And yes, there will be the possibility that one (or both) of us is an exception.HaiBai wrote:
i know, but just because your abs are visible while another person who has lower body fat percentage then you whose abs dont show doesnt mean your body fat percentage is higher then you though. which is what happened on the previous page
Its gettin too late for me to discuss this. Im going to bed.
And just to stay on topic (besides the whole ab thing): My new bench is arriving tomorrow.
And just to stay on topic (besides the whole ab thing): My new bench is arriving tomorrow.
It plays a big role, not dictate (because as i said: exceptions are always possible)HaiBai wrote:
or, it could be the much more likely explanation in which body fat does not dictate whether your abs are visibleKampframmer wrote:
No, it might not. But if his scale was accurate than i just might check mine. And yes, there will be the possibility that one (or both) of us is an exception.HaiBai wrote:
i know, but just because your abs are visible while another person who has lower body fat percentage then you whose abs dont show doesnt mean your body fat percentage is higher then you though. which is what happened on the previous page
so what are we arguing about again?Kampframmer wrote:
It plays a big role, not dictate (because as i said: exceptions are always possible)HaiBai wrote:
or, it could be the much more likely explanation in which body fat does not dictate whether your abs are visibleKampframmer wrote:
No, it might not. But if his scale was accurate than i just might check mine. And yes, there will be the possibility that one (or both) of us is an exception.
You won't see visible abs at 15% bodyfat. Ever heard the saying "abs are made in the kitchen"?HaiBai wrote:
no it doesn't because you may have accumulated fat in different areas and because your abs may not be very strongJaekus wrote:
Yes it does.HaiBai wrote:
body fat percentage does not dictate whether your abs are visible
dont be dumb
Don't be dumb.
You can have the biggest six pack in the world but you won't see it if your body fat % is too high.
Maybe you should do some reading up on it sometime, y'know, to do some learning and shit.
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