that's ~20cm under my height. So it would end up somewhere under my chin. I don't quite know the distance between the highest point(162cm) and the highest strut.
But I guess it should be okay
But I guess it should be okay
Oh, well if that's the case it'll be fine then.
edit: Just measured the height of the bar in the rack I have, it's 135cm. You'd only be a few cm taller than me so yours would be ideal.
edit: Just measured the height of the bar in the rack I have, it's 135cm. You'd only be a few cm taller than me so yours would be ideal.
Last edited by Jaekus (2011-03-14 16:57:20)
Hmm, stalled on squats a long time ago, but they're going up now. Stalled on deadlifts for a very long time, but I'm increasing 2.5KG every on week on them I'll be lifting 3 plates in 4 weeks if I can keep this up. Did 105KG x 3 squat as I said yesterday, but my spotted had to help a bit on the final rep. Wednesday is low-weight today, so I'll have to make sure my form is perfectJaekus wrote:
When did you start stalling on squats? I'm doing 79kg tomorrow, same for DL. Getting hard but I think I can still manage 5x5.
What's your height again?Kampframmer wrote:
162cm in height. High enough?
I've got no spotter and am increasing the weight 2.5kg every workout (SL5x5), DL by 5kg every time do them, which is every second workout day.
I've also been reading Starting Strength almost 50 pages in and it's all about the squat. Lots of pics and very detailed explanations and the reasons why squatting works and where people go wrong. I was practising at work last night (obviously no bar, just the squat) and I think my form has been pretty solid for the most part. So that's reassuring, especially as by Friday I'll be squatting the equivalent of my BW.
I've also been reading Starting Strength almost 50 pages in and it's all about the squat. Lots of pics and very detailed explanations and the reasons why squatting works and where people go wrong. I was practising at work last night (obviously no bar, just the squat) and I think my form has been pretty solid for the most part. So that's reassuring, especially as by Friday I'll be squatting the equivalent of my BW.
182cm (6ft)Jebus wrote:
What's your height again?Kampframmer wrote:
162cm in height. High enough?
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What? So you're only cool if you're using freeweights?Kampframmer wrote:
Stopped readingRDMC wrote:
I'll make some notes of which machines ...Jaekus wrote:
How about posting a detailed workout routine - exercises, reps etc.
The leet of this thread have consistently put down machine weights. Though if you read through it (or just about any article/thread/website about them vs free weights) you'll realize they are terrible things. They force you do lift in an unnatural position and to not use any stabilizing muscles so you don't get even close to the same workout as you would if you were doing free weights of the same amount.RDMC wrote:
What? So you're only cool if you're using freeweights?Kampframmer wrote:
Stopped readingRDMC wrote:
I'll make some notes of which machines ...
Steer clear of machines unless you're a bodybuilder, have been doing it for years, and you know exactly what you're doing and you want to specifically hit ONE muscle group.
...which nobody here is.
yesRDMC wrote:
What? So you're only cool if you're using freeweights?Kampframmer wrote:
Stopped readingRDMC wrote:
I'll make some notes of which machines ...
noKampframmer wrote:
yesRDMC wrote:
What? So you're only cool if you're using freeweights?Kampframmer wrote:
Stopped reading
yes11 Bravo wrote:
noKampframmer wrote:
yesRDMC wrote:
What? So you're only cool if you're using freeweights?
Free weights are superior because they work your stabiliser muscles.RDMC wrote:
What? So you're only cool if you're using freeweights?Kampframmer wrote:
Stopped readingRDMC wrote:
I'll make some notes of which machines ...
Machines do the stabilising for you, and put your body into unnatural positions, or at best, not completely natural positions.
With free weights you can only move them in a way that feels natural to you, which makes sense to work out this way because that's how you do things day to day anyway.
It's not about being leet, it's just common sense.
People gotta realise machines aren't all pure evil though, there really isn't anything wrong with using machines now and then, or for a specific exercise.
That said, I don't use them at all right now, but I see the benefits of them.
That said, I don't use them at all right now, but I see the benefits of them.
Well no, but the benefits over free weights compared to machines... free weights win every time, IMO.
Talking purely lifting here. For cardio, I think machines are great.
Talking purely lifting here. For cardio, I think machines are great.
I find it fucking hilarious that people would drive to the gym so they can go jog on a machine.
why is that funny? you go jog in cold ass weather with ice covered sidewalks then. you go live in a polar enviro then you can lol.DrunkFace wrote:
I find it fucking hilarious that people would drive to the gym so they can go jog on a machine.
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I'm reading Starting Strength by Rippetoe now, and I just had to laugh at this image. It's absolutely 100% correct, but still funny.
Yeah I know, I laughed when I saw that too.
It's not just jogging, there's a whole range of stuff like bikes, rowing machines etc. Cardio gets kinda boring so I guess mixing it up keeps it... less boring.DrunkFace wrote:
I find it fucking hilarious that people would drive to the gym so they can go jog on a machine.
right so is incline fly with dumbells a waste? i mean if i do them flat does incline really do any good?
I think incline is meant to focus more on your upper chest, flat is more your middle, or so I've read.
I really can't say from experience other than to say I have felt it in these areas when doing the relevant exercise.
I really can't say from experience other than to say I have felt it in these areas when doing the relevant exercise.
should i do incline then flat the next time or just do flat? or incline?
i dunno
i dunno
I dunno either. Zimmer would give better advice here than I.
Have you tried bench pressing with a barbell? That's supposed to be the best exercise for the chest.
Have you tried bench pressing with a barbell? That's supposed to be the best exercise for the chest.
Last edited by Jaekus (2011-03-15 21:36:47)
i just do d-bells.
I hate BB BP. Feel everything working except my chest lol. Picked up a shoulder injury when I started out, and it still bothers me. I prefer DB's. Gotta use a BB for strength now, though.
I quite enjoy BB BP. I started out doing DBs but now I prefer BB.
Different strokes.
Different strokes.
Both incline bench press and flat bench press are good. They work different parts of your pectorals. The only one that is useless is the decline, which actually doesn't do much.11 Bravo wrote:
should i do incline then flat the next time or just do flat? or incline?
i dunno
Do both, it makes no difference which one you do first - I advise you do the one you find the hardest first. It depends on the person, some people find incline a lot easier and some people prefer flat.
Just don't do flys. After reading a good few medical articles and talking to some sports physicians, they've been adamant that flys aren't good for you. They do work out your chest well, but they also tear your rotator cuffs (shoulder ligament) and that's a terrible thing to have. I've had a caught rotator cuff and a slightly torn one, and it's the worst injury to have if you're doing weights. You cannot do anything, because all exercises require your shoulder support for something (be it holding the barbells behind your neck for squats or letting it tense when doing deadlifts).
If you have incredibly strong shoulders (most people have weak ligaments but strong shoulder power, which is bad) then by all means do it if you think you can. But if you're at all weary of it, stay away from flys. If you want to do flys, do rotator cuff strengthening exercises for 5 weeks before you touch them:
http://www.askthetrainer.com/rotator-cu … cises.html
Barbell and dumbbell bench press aren't very similar - this is because the barbell press will fail when your weakest side cannot take anymore, whereas the DB press will keep going on your stronger side and you might be applying more force to that side. BB Press is better due to the fact it balances out your pectorals and keeps a good range of movement. That means that once you've hit a certain weight, both your pecs will be as strong as each other, whereas with DB press, it can be harder to achieve balance (some people argue that you can change the weight on side of the db press so you can work out your individual pecs at their max, but it also makes your pecs unbalanced for strength).
Do both if you want, there's nothing wrong with that - I do both and then incline bench press.
Jebus - Sounds as if you're not doing the BB press correctly if that is what you feel. The burn in my chest when I do BB press is unreal in comparison with DB press.