11 Bravo
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Zimmer wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:

zimmer not everyone wants to be a power lifter and have jugs of powder in their kitchen
Power lifter? Where did you get that idea?
excuse me...or cares about getting bigger.
Jaekus
I'm the matchstick that you'll never lose
+957|5423|Sydney

11 Bravo wrote:

HaiBai wrote:

no but no one cares about your "HEY GAIZ JUST FINISHED MY 2ND WORKOUT..  FEELS GUD MANG"
true. 

and i rarely agree with bihi
I've been working out 4 months, I got sick, took 3 weeks off and got back into it. I didn't personally write it for you idiots.

On your bike, or treadmill, or whatever it is you do at the gym.
11 Bravo
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'Flaming' (personal attacks) are not well received on these forums.
Jaekus
I'm the matchstick that you'll never lose
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Zimmer wrote:

HaiBai wrote:

details only matter over the long term.  6 six weeks isn't very long.  and if you're goals changed, how do you know they won't change again in another 6 weeks?
There was a report done on people changing routines and it showed how much stronger and bigger they got. If you stick to a routine for too long your muscles never build because they are far too used to it. You need to change it up, and every 6 weeks (with one week break) is the perfect amount for a single workout routine.

Books recommend you do 6 weeks hypertrophy/6 weeks strength/6 weeks hypertrophy/6 weeks power. So please, shut up. It has nothing to do with details, it is what is widely accepted as the best way to train. Continuing on the same workout after 6 weeks will not build as much as switching it up.
Thanks man. I was changing up every 6 weeks based on advice I got, not because I got bored.

Zimmer, have you read Starting Strength? I bought it on Amazon last night. A few reviews I read say it is like gold. Pretty keen to get into some in depth reading on the main barbell exercises.

Last edited by Jaekus (2011-03-08 04:48:03)

Jaekus
I'm the matchstick that you'll never lose
+957|5423|Sydney

11 Bravo wrote:

'Flaming' (personal attacks) are not well received on these forums.
Neither is trolling. Maybe contribute to the thread?
11 Bravo
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Jaekus wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:

'Flaming' (personal attacks) are not well received on these forums.
Neither is trolling. Maybe contribute to the thread?
i have.  just cuz its not about plates or protein powder.  says diet also in the title, homeslice.
Jaekus
I'm the matchstick that you'll never lose
+957|5423|Sydney
Yeah, so where are your recent posts about diet?
11 Bravo
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few days ago.
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
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So, whats a good workout program and diet for a really fat person who doesn't much like diet or exercise?
Fuck Israel
Kampframmer
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Dilbert_X wrote:

So, whats a good workout program and diet for a really fat person who doesn't much like diet or exercise?
troll some more
Jaekus
I'm the matchstick that you'll never lose
+957|5423|Sydney
What are your goals? Losing weight I'd imagine.

There's a lot out there. Do you have gym access or doing it at home? If at home, what equipment do you have?
11 Bravo
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Kampframmer wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

So, whats a good workout program and diet for a really fat person who doesn't much like diet or exercise?
troll some more
dilbert doesnt break the rules
Kampframmer
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11 Bravo wrote:

Kampframmer wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

So, whats a good workout program and diet for a really fat person who doesn't much like diet or exercise?
troll some more
dilbert doesnt break the rules
Making a workout program and diet for a fat guy that doesnt like dieting and exercising. I'm willing to give anybody some advice, but i'm not going to make a program/diet if i don't know that the person in question really wants to do his best.
Also wasn't sure if he was serious because of the normal request and than adding that he doesn't like it.
11 Bravo
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Kampframmer wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:

Kampframmer wrote:


troll some more
dilbert doesnt break the rules
Making a workout program and diet for a fat guy that doesnt like dieting and exercising. I'm willing to give anybody some advice, but i'm not going to make a program/diet if i don't know that the person in question really wants to do his best.
Also wasn't sure if he was serious because of the normal request and than adding that he doesn't like it.
i was being a smart ass.  dilbert was trolling.
Kampframmer
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Dilbert_X wrote:

So, whats a good workout program and diet for a really fat person who doesn't much like diet or exercise?
If you are really serious about this, i think there's plenty of people here (me included) that are willing to give you advice. But you need to be a bit more specific about what you and have.
height/weight?
Do you have acces to a gym or gym equipment?
What is your current diet?
Kampframmer
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11 Bravo wrote:

Kampframmer wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:


dilbert doesnt break the rules
Making a workout program and diet for a fat guy that doesnt like dieting and exercising. I'm willing to give anybody some advice, but i'm not going to make a program/diet if i don't know that the person in question really wants to do his best.
Also wasn't sure if he was serious because of the normal request and than adding that he doesn't like it.
i was being a smart ass.  dilbert was trolling.
fuck
Jebus
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What would be the differences between power and strength?
Kampframmer
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Jebus wrote:

What would be the differences between power and strength?
Dont those words basically mean the same thing? Whats the context?
Jebus
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+218|6009|Belgium
Zimmer mentioned this in a few posts back : 'Books recommend you do 6 weeks hypertrophy/6 weeks strength/6 weeks hypertrophy/6 weeks power."

Maybe it's different, maybe not. I'd see them as two equal things though.
Kampframmer
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Jebus wrote:

Zimmer mentioned this in a few posts back : 'Books recommend you do 6 weeks hypertrophy/6 weeks strength/6 weeks hypertrophy/6 weeks power."

Maybe it's different, maybe not. I'd see them as two equal things though.
strength is pretty obvious, that's hit like 5x5. I'm just guessing here, but i assume that with power you increase the intensity or something. Or maybe it's type-o. You should ask him
ghettoperson
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I've been reading up on that Stronglifts 5x5 thing, and I think I'm going to start doing it. I've had decent results so far, but I've mostly just been using weight machines rather than free weights (cue outrage). Mostly just because the free weights room is small and always super busy, but I guess I'll try figure out better times of day to go or something.

Another thing, I always do at least 10 minutes of running/biking or 1500m rowing to warm up, because my workouts always feel worse if I do it from cold. Anyone else have this?

EDIT: A question about SL5x5. It has two parts, A and B and it says you should alternate between them. Does that mean doing A Mon/Wed/Fri and B Tues/Thurs/Sat, or just keep up going to the gym 3 times a week and that's enough? It sounds like they're saying just go 3 times a week, but I want to make sure.

Last edited by ghettoperson (2011-03-08 13:24:22)

Kampframmer
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ghettoperson wrote:

(cue outrage)
oh hell yes.

nah, I'm not gonna flame or anything about that. The free weight room tends to be busy because it's the best part of the gym. Try working with other people. You know: You each do a set on the bench press and spot each other, stuff like that.

And warming up is a pretty normal thing to. I don't really like doing a cardio warm up as it tends to fuck with my lifting afterwards (draining more energy than just warming up) so I just do 1 warm up set at something like 75% the max weight. But if it works for you, and if it doesn't take you lifts down, why the hell not?

I'm not knowledgeable on SL5x5. Maybe someone else can answer that for you.

Last edited by Kampframmer (2011-03-08 13:47:38)

Jebus
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Yeah, you go three times per week.

For example:

Week 1:
Monday: A
Wednesday: B
Friday: A

Week 2:
Monday: B
Wednesday: A
Friday: B

(week 3: ABA, you get the point)
That's how it was in the previous versions of SL, so I can't imagine it beging changed. Or was it Starting Strength? I'm not so sure anymore, either..

Last edited by Jebus (2011-03-08 13:54:24)

pirana6
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ghettoperson wrote:

Another thing, I always do at least 10 minutes of running/biking or 1500m rowing to warm up, because my workouts always feel worse if I do it from cold. Anyone else have this?
yeah.
I used to do at least a half hour on the bike + running but i asked here and they were saying i should turn it down a notch on the warmup to save energy for lifting. I HAVE to do at least 10 minutes of cardio before lifting otherwise my first few sets feel like shit (and YES i do a warmup set. i.e. if I start with bench press I'll do 10 reps of just the bar to get the motion down).
To be honest I haven't really noticed a HUGE difference in doing 10 minutes of cardio warmup as apposed to a half hour. Maybe a tad but not a whole lot.
Jaekus
I'm the matchstick that you'll never lose
+957|5423|Sydney

Jebus wrote:

What would be the differences between power and strength?
I read this the other night.

Strength is pretty self explanatory.
Power is how fast you can access your strength; something that is more athletic.

I guess the difference is some people might be strong, but might not have a lot of "power".

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