It gives a false idea of power imo. You can only move it in one (2) way, and even if you press with you shoulders/pecs/leg drive, the weight will go up, but with horrid form.
A buddy of mine used to BP in it. He benched 55kg while i was still doing 50 (not in smiths ofc). I then told him to do it free and he could only do 35kgJebus wrote:
It gives a false idea of power imo. You can only move it in one (2) way, and even if you press with you shoulders/pecs/leg drive, the weight will go up, but with horrid form.
twas mine.Kampframmer wrote:
The smiths machine is everyone first mistake i think
I think that a lot of people (including myself) are a little hesitant when going to the gym the first few times, especially alone. So the Smith offered that little extra security when you're in the unknown and it was safer. Once you get past the initial jitters you can man up and use the real stuff.
no offense but it seems like you switch programs too often.Jaekus wrote:
Before hand strength wasn't the primary goal. During my break I decided building strength was the goal so I changed routines.Zimmer wrote:
If you want to build strength then a 3x8 regime is definitely not what you want to be doing. Follow the 5x5 or don't do a strength building program. You cannot do more than 5 reps for a good strength increase. 6-12 is for size.Jaekus wrote:
Nah, it's a strength building program.
You do a couple warm up sets at reduced weight and then 5 sets of your working weight, 5 reps each set. Start off relatively light and every workout add 2.5kg, or 5lbs, to your working weight. Three workouts each week, two different routines.
More info here - http://stronglifts.com/stronglifts-5x5- … g-program/
Ebook here - http://stronglifts.com/5x5-report-too-late/
If the above doesn't work I can email you the book. I don't agree with all he says because I think he's skewing some of the information to promote his product, but the workout itself is solid from what I understand.
You guys talk about squats and deadlifts, what are you lifting military and bench press-wise?
Also, just got back on the squats (couldn't do them due to my posture and back, but now building it up again).
I'm still only light and so have a long way to go, hence the building of strength. Benched 40kg the other day but I can do more for sure. Military press was about 30kg yesterday, again felt I can do more but am going to start doing the standing ones, so I've got to get used to the form. Only the second day of the SL 5x5, lots of room for progress.
Also just bought Starting Strength from Amazon, should arrive this Friday
just do one and stick with it, and stop messing around with all the little details that don't matter.
I've been on a program for about 6 weeks at a time. The first two, when I learned more I realised what I was doing wrong and changed them. The third was solid, worked well. Got sick, took three weeks off, in that time my goals changed, now I'm doing a 5x5 program.
Details do matter, that's what differentiates a program.
Details do matter, that's what differentiates a program.
details only matter over the long term. 6 six weeks isn't very long. and if you're goals changed, how do you know they won't change again in another 6 weeks?
I'm just learning and doing my best. I can't read the future. I've lost weight and gotten stronger so regardless it's all working.
and how the hell does a sickness make you take 3 weeks off?
this is what I mean by spending too much time on details
http://stronglifts.com/are-you-wasting- … like-this/
this is what I mean by spending too much time on details
http://stronglifts.com/are-you-wasting- … like-this/
Far out dude, is this an interrogation?
no but no one cares about your "HEY GAIZ JUST FINISHED MY 2ND WORKOUT.. FEELS GUD MANG"
Fuck me. I just make a comment because I feel enthusiastic and you have to come along and be a douche. GG
y'all gayer dan markoo lls
sorry but wherever someone says that to me, I want to hit them
let's not all roid rage here
I'm pretty chill brah. I was quite fine before too.
anyway, change of subject...
I've got a shit ton of rolled oats from my dad who was cleaning out his kitchen and apparently they're good and full of protein but fuckin eh if they taste like boring death.
I'm pretty sure some of you guys said what you do with them but I don't remember how far back. Aside from googling recipes, how to you guys make them to have any taste at all?
I've got a shit ton of rolled oats from my dad who was cleaning out his kitchen and apparently they're good and full of protein but fuckin eh if they taste like boring death.
I'm pretty sure some of you guys said what you do with them but I don't remember how far back. Aside from googling recipes, how to you guys make them to have any taste at all?
I just put a scoop of protein powder with them for breakfast, double choc flavour. I quite like it.
I got 1 serving of a pre workout supp called 1.M.R (1 more rep) from bpi with my latest order of whey. I'm not going to buy any other supps besides whey, but i figured, since i got for free, why not use it? I'm sort of curious if it actually works. Does anyone have any experience with it and why i should (not) use it?
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oats+milk(little or no milk and water if youre trying to cut), heat that shit up in a pan or microwave and add 1 teaspoon of brown sugar and BOOM: Oats.pirana6 wrote:
anyway, change of subject...
I've got a shit ton of rolled oats from my dad who was cleaning out his kitchen and apparently they're good and full of protein but fuckin eh if they taste like boring death.
I'm pretty sure some of you guys said what you do with them but I don't remember how far back. Aside from googling recipes, how to you guys make them to have any taste at all?
Thats how i eat it, but if you think its too bland you can maybe add fruit (like berries or banana), peanutbutter or protein powder to it.
true.HaiBai wrote:
no but no one cares about your "HEY GAIZ JUST FINISHED MY 2ND WORKOUT.. FEELS GUD MANG"
and i rarely agree with bihi
you hush. the only gym you have seen is from the parking lot on your way into the buffet.Hurricane2k9 wrote:
let's not all roid rage here
I have a cup of oats with a couple of tablespoons of Greek yoghurt and some honey. Tastes great.pirana6 wrote:
anyway, change of subject...
I've got a shit ton of rolled oats from my dad who was cleaning out his kitchen and apparently they're good and full of protein but fuckin eh if they taste like boring death.
I'm pretty sure some of you guys said what you do with them but I don't remember how far back. Aside from googling recipes, how to you guys make them to have any taste at all?
There was a report done on people changing routines and it showed how much stronger and bigger they got. If you stick to a routine for too long your muscles never build because they are far too used to it. You need to change it up, and every 6 weeks (with one week break) is the perfect amount for a single workout routine.HaiBai wrote:
details only matter over the long term. 6 six weeks isn't very long. and if you're goals changed, how do you know they won't change again in another 6 weeks?
Books recommend you do 6 weeks hypertrophy/6 weeks strength/6 weeks hypertrophy/6 weeks power. So please, shut up. It has nothing to do with details, it is what is widely accepted as the best way to train. Continuing on the same workout after 6 weeks will not build as much as switching it up.
zimmer not everyone wants to be a power lifter and have jugs of powder in their kitchen
Power lifter? Where did you get that idea?11 Bravo wrote:
zimmer not everyone wants to be a power lifter and have jugs of powder in their kitchen