PrivateVendetta
I DEMAND XMAS THEME
+704|6431|Roma
I actually love squats atm, can't wait to get a rack or cage and lift some real weights. Still at 30lbs + bar.
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Jaekus
I'm the matchstick that you'll never lose
+957|5418|Sydney
I put on different stuff each time. Usually it'll be a combination of the following: Pendulum, Presets, Nine Inch Nails, Tool, System of a Down, Prodigy, White Zombie, Marilyn Manson, Calvin Harris...
Jebus
Looking for my Scooper
+218|6004|Belgium
Just finished my last training in the old gym. Only one bar left and no bumper pads so couldn't do any deadlifts either..

Felt weird, now I just hope my new gym will live up to the standard
nukchebi0
Пушкин, наше всё
+387|6563|New Haven, CT
Try this for a good workout playlist: http://fratstars.com/playlists/view/off … orkout_mix
ghettoperson
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+1,943|6888

Can someone point me in the direction of a good diet plan to compliment working out? Basically I have no idea what sort of stuff I should be looking for in terms of quantities or types of foods, so if anyone knows of a basic plan that says "this for breakfast, this for lunch, this for dinner, this for snacks in between" that'd be really helpful.
Jaekus
I'm the matchstick that you'll never lose
+957|5418|Sydney
Zimmer made a great post, here it is - http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?id=138630

In a nutshell (some random pointers really), eat 5-6 smaller meals every day, approx 3 hours apart. Eat approx 1 gram of protein per bodyweight a day (so if you weigh 170lbs, try to eat 170g of protein. This is where supplements can help). ALWAYS eat breakfast. Drink LOTS of water throughout each day, 3 litres or more. Eat carbs before a workout and afterwards, they give you energy. Eat lots of green leafy vegetables, especially at dinner. Chicken has lots of protein, the best source is skinless chicken breasts. When eating carbs, make sure they're whole grains and try to avoid white bread, white rice etc. (it's ok to eat these every now and then, but try to avoid eating them daily).

There are heaps of different diets, and it really comes down to what your goals are. Read Zimmer's post and then come back afterwards.

Last edited by Jaekus (2011-01-25 08:40:26)

presidentsheep
Back to the Fuhrer
+208|6200|Places 'n such
I'm a bit biased being vege but quorn/vege stuff is pretty good for protein.
I'd type my pc specs out all fancy again but teh mods would remove it. Again.
nukchebi0
Пушкин, наше всё
+387|6563|New Haven, CT
The link you showed me for structuring the workout program said that the 5-6 meals requirement is a myth.
ghettoperson
Member
+1,943|6888

Jaekus wrote:

Zimmer made a great post, here it is - http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?id=138630

In a nutshell (some random pointers really), eat 5-6 smaller meals every day, approx 3 hours apart. Eat approx 1 gram of protein per bodyweight a day (so if you weigh 170lbs, try to eat 170g of protein. This is where supplements can help). ALWAYS eat breakfast. Drink LOTS of water throughout each day, 3 litres or more. Eat carbs before a workout and afterwards, they give you energy. Eat lots of green leafy vegetables, especially at dinner. Chicken has lots of protein, the best source is skinless chicken breasts. When eating carbs, make sure they're whole grains and try to avoid white bread, white rice etc. (it's ok to eat these every now and then, but try to avoid eating them daily).

There are heaps of different diets, and it really comes down to what your goals are. Read Zimmer's post and then come back afterwards.
Yeah I have read that, I was thinking more in terms of specifics that I should be eating for each meal.
PrivateVendetta
I DEMAND XMAS THEME
+704|6431|Roma
That's what I've been after too, ghetto.
It's all very well giving generalisations, but I get pretty unimaginative when it comes to cooking a lot of the time. Need some fresh injections of ideas.
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nukchebi0
Пушкин, наше всё
+387|6563|New Haven, CT
Here is my restructured workout:

Monday: Full body
Tuesday: Rest
Wednesday: Full body+Plyo/HIIT
Thursday: Rest
Friday: Full body
Saturday/Sunday: Cardio/Plyo/HIIT on one of two

Exercises:

Squat
Bench Press
Deadlift
Bent-Over Row
Overhead Dumbbell Press/Arnold Press
Lat Pulls
Bicep Curls
Skullcrushers+Close Grip Bench Press
Calf Raises
Abs

I haven't decided on the sets and reps yet because I'm not sure what my goal is at this point. Input on the routine, and the difference between the two shoulder exercises, would be appreciated.

Last edited by nukchebi0 (2011-01-25 13:02:29)

PrivateVendetta
I DEMAND XMAS THEME
+704|6431|Roma
I would recommend only one thing on the Wednesday, and splitting the compound exercises (Squat/Deadlift/Barbell Row etc.) into separate days. They work too much of your body to be able to do them properly all on the same day IMO
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presidentsheep
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Oh, forgot to say I tried drinking more milk to gain weight... Wouldn't recommend it.
Skin went all greasy and spotty and nasty, back of my throat felt sticky lots of the time, breath stank and I barely stopped farting/burping. Not a very social diet. Also found it harder to sleep but I dunno if that was due to the milk or what.
This was only on a pint a day.
I'd type my pc specs out all fancy again but teh mods would remove it. Again.
ghettoperson
Member
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Pretty sure those are all strong indications of a lactose intolerance.
presidentsheep
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Meh, I eat a lot of cheese normally and don't have any problems. Seemed to be just milk.
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ghettoperson
Member
+1,943|6888

I doubt you get any where near as much intake of milk from eating a lot of cheese as you would from drinking a pint daily though. I don't know, that's just my e-doctor opinion.
presidentsheep
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Not likely to be drinking cast amounts of milk again in the future so even if it is true i'm not too bothered Would be interesting to find out though.
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pirana6
Go Cougs!
+691|6530|Washington St.

ghettoperson wrote:

Pretty sure those are all strong indications of a lactose intolerance.
yeah i was gonna say... it's not a black or white type of thing, its got a huge range. My ex gf used to get stomach aches from dairy and that was it. Other people get more serious symptoms, others less.
Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|6777|Long Island, New York

presidentsheep wrote:

Oh, forgot to say I tried drinking more milk to gain weight... Wouldn't recommend it.
Skin went all greasy and spotty and nasty, back of my throat felt sticky lots of the time, breath stank and I barely stopped farting/burping. Not a very social diet. Also found it harder to sleep but I dunno if that was due to the milk or what.
This was only on a pint a day.
Lactaid yo.

Best shit. Certainly doesn't taste the same as REAL milk, but it's a good substitute for lactose intolerant people. I use it every morning in my coffee.
HaiBai
Your thoughts, insights, and musings on this matter intrigue me
+304|5723|Bolingbrook, Illinois

nukchebi0 wrote:

The link you showed me for structuring the workout program said that the 5-6 meals requirement is a myth.
it isn't.  not only have studies proved it, but i can tell from self experience that my metabolism is much quicker.

i'm actually struggling to put on weight now
presidentsheep
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Like I said, not a big milk drinker so i'm not too bothered. Only ever have it in tea/coffee normally which doesn't cause any of the stuff I described.
Spose I could look at some substitute provided it would have the same effect in weight gain.
I'd type my pc specs out all fancy again but teh mods would remove it. Again.
HaiBai
Your thoughts, insights, and musings on this matter intrigue me
+304|5723|Bolingbrook, Illinois

presidentsheep wrote:

Oh, forgot to say I tried drinking more milk to gain weight... Wouldn't recommend it.
Skin went all greasy and spotty and nasty, back of my throat felt sticky lots of the time, breath stank and I barely stopped farting/burping. Not a very social diet. Also found it harder to sleep but I dunno if that was due to the milk or what.
This was only on a pint a day.
maybe your body just wasn't used to it?

i had a couple of bowls of cereals everyday growing up.

anyway, try soy milk.

this also reminded me of a question i had.  is something like plain special k or corn flakes healthy compared to other carbs?  i feel like it should be, but i haven't really read anything that would suggest that they are.
Camm
Feeding the Cats.
+761|5207|Dundee, Scotland.

presidentsheep wrote:

Oh, forgot to say I tried drinking more milk to gain weight... Wouldn't recommend it.
Skin went all greasy and spotty and nasty, back of my throat felt sticky lots of the time, breath stank and I barely stopped farting/burping. Not a very social diet. Also found it harder to sleep but I dunno if that was due to the milk or what.
This was only on a pint a day.
I'm so sorry, but that's hilarious. Especially farting and burping
for a fatty you're a serious intellectual lightweight.
presidentsheep
Back to the Fuhrer
+208|6200|Places 'n such

Camm wrote:

presidentsheep wrote:

Oh, forgot to say I tried drinking more milk to gain weight... Wouldn't recommend it.
Skin went all greasy and spotty and nasty, back of my throat felt sticky lots of the time, breath stank and I barely stopped farting/burping. Not a very social diet. Also found it harder to sleep but I dunno if that was due to the milk or what.
This was only on a pint a day.
I'm so sorry, but that's hilarious. Especially farting and burping
You know when you've spent a night out drinking nasty shit? It was like the morning after, but in the evening. Farts smelled like the zombie apocalypse.
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Jaekus
I'm the matchstick that you'll never lose
+957|5418|Sydney

nukchebi0 wrote:

Here is my restructured workout:

Monday: Full body
Tuesday: Rest
Wednesday: Full body+Plyo/HIIT
Thursday: Rest
Friday: Full body
Saturday/Sunday: Cardio/Plyo/HIIT on one of two

Exercises:

Squat
Bench Press
Deadlift
Bent-Over Row
Overhead Dumbbell Press/Arnold Press
Lat Pulls
Bicep Curls
Skullcrushers+Close Grip Bench Press
Calf Raises
Abs

I haven't decided on the sets and reps yet because I'm not sure what my goal is at this point. Input on the routine, and the difference between the two shoulder exercises, would be appreciated.
Yeah I agree with PV. If you add in military presses, then the start of one day can be "squats - bench press - bent over row" and then the next workout day you can do "squats - military press - deadlift". On the day you do your military press you wouldn't need to do the arnold press as well. Military presses are probably a little better than the DB press, or so I've been told. Arnold presses are great though. I do both exercises, on different days from each other.

That's the main reason I have A and B workout days, so I can split my compounds up. I've tried doing them on the same day before but by the time you get to the bent over row you're just too exhausted to do it to proper capacity and technique, and thus your workout suffers as a result. The rest looks pretty good, except I'd also move your Wednesday plyo/HIIT to either rest day you have on a Tues or Thurs. The rest looks pretty good though man. Just also watch the close grip bench press, you'll need a fairly lighter weight than you use with the bench press as you'll be getting pretty tired by that stage, and it looks like you're supersetting. Try about half your working weight for it and adjust from there.

Last edited by Jaekus (2011-01-25 17:01:30)

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