BF2S Forums Rules of Engagment

EA wrote:

§ Items not included in this list would be up to EA & DICE to interpret.

PFFFT
so basically, all these rules don't mean very much, because at the end of the day, you reserve the right to reset anyone you want, because as has been argued ad nauseum on these and other forums, there are always problems interpreting some people's behaviour. well done.

NM156 wrote:

<{SoE}>Agamemnar wrote:

Indian doesn't seem very intelligent. These rules are poorly worded.

Now why did you even post in this thread? If you don't have anything decent to contribute to this thread, I suggest you not post in here.

I'm going to start recommending DEMOTIONS for flaming such as this. We need to get these forums back in shape.

This is a warning to everyone: Shape up, or ship out. It's up to you.

Hear, hear!

<{SoE}>Agamemnar wrote:

Indian doesn't seem very intelligent. These rules are poorly worded.

You dont seem to have much social skills. There's no need to insult indian, he's a decent bloke trying to help us and he even bothers to post here on these forums.

Btw maybe he's from a country where they dont speak english?

chuyskywalker wrote:

§1.2 You may not market, promote or advertise anything, or make any other form of solicitation (this does not apply to trusted partners and in game server messages) on any ranked servers.

So if I'm playing with someone and we're getting on well, I can't say "hey, stop by my website, I'd like you to join our clan"? That doesn't make any sense. Perhaps the exception rule needs to be made for that, or this rule needs to apply to commercial solicitations and/or spam solicitation.

§1.6 Server administrators may not explicitly or implicitly (by actions) enforce restrictions on roles or kits that players can use while on your server.

This would include but not limited to:
§ Commander
§ Squad Leader
§ Spec Ops
§ Forced to Join Squads

Uhm, what's the point of the sub-points on this? Isn't the 1.6 bullet enough?

§1.7 Server administrators may not use non-standard (custom map packs) maps or modified versions of standard maps.

This rule is moot -- using a custom or modified map will force the server into unranked mode.

§1.9 Players may not Impersonate or abuse BF2RS ADMINS.

Picky: I doesn't need caps there

§1.10 Server administrators will not go to ANY public or clan ranked server and threaten or bully any clan or clan administrator.
§ Admins are to only observe and report back to their department head
§ Admins will not contact or interfere in clan ranked servers
§ Admins will at no time contact any trusted provider
§ Admins at no time will state rules if they see violations

Uhm, seriously? Wouldn't that preclude them from saying "chuy, you are stat padding, which is against the ROE. Cease or be kicked."?

That seems a bit odd.

3 LOCAL (PRIVATELY RENTED) RANKED SERVER RULES MODIFICATIONS

These are rules that are not enforced upon in EA’s public ranked servers but may be modified in privately rented ranked servers. These rules are decided by clan administrators for those servers and as long as they do not contradict any global rules enforced by EA are considered valid for those servers.

This would include but not limited to:
§ Artillery fire or bombing runs on main (uncapturable) bases may be prohibited.
§ Prolonged or sustained attacks on main (uncapturable) bases (i.e. spawncamping).
§ Using the Transport Helicopters to take flags (Blackhawk whoring or flag hopping).
§ Impersonating clan members.
§ Using C4 on jeeps, or other fast moving vehicles to take out other vehicles.
§ Clans may change or customise rules, provided they don’t violate the above ROE rules.

This section is very, very poorly worded. Edit as:

rewrite wrote:

3 LOCAL (PRIVATELY RENTED) RANKED SERVER RULES MODIFICATIONS

Any rule enforced on Non-EA Ranked server is valid as long as it is not in violation of any other ROE rules.

Some examples of common Non-EA Ranked Server Rules:
§ No Artillery fire or bombing runs on main (uncapturable) bases
§ No Prolonged or sustained attacks on main (uncapturable) bases (i.e. spawncamping)
§ Teams may not use the Transport Helicopters to take flags (Blackhawk whoring or flag hopping).
§ Impersonating clan members is not allowed.
§ You may not use C4 on jeeps, or other fast moving vehicles, for the sole purpose to detonating the carbomb.

I took the liberty of quoting you on the rankedserver thread concerning the RoE
http://www.bf2rankedservers.com/forums/ … #post20007

I don't mean to insult anyone, but I really think that EA should at least proofread stuff like that before they go about posting it and calling it "official"

IndianScout wrote:

<{SoE}>Agamemnar wrote:

Indian doesn't seem very intelligent. These rules are poorly worded.

excuse me??

I hold 2 degrees..

I personally could care less what you think of my intelligence..

ok...<{SoE}>Agamemnar has a legitimate point in that the rules ARE very poorly worded, and also, indian wasn't helping his image by saying things like "this is what the rule applies 'too'", and "if you 'player' can come up with better wording for this rule". obviously agamemnar wasn't saying indian is a total dumbass prick sumbitch, but he was pointing out what is a somewhat disconserting lack of grammar skills for the writer/editor of an "official" document like these rules of engagement. just...try to understand what people are saying instead of just jumping on them and calling it a flame. also: "i personally could care less what you think of my intelligence"...if you could care less that means you care some already, the term was "couldn't" care less. couldn't. yeaap.

IndianScout wrote:

ok wording has changed to

§ Using Vehicles removed from battlefield for purposes of artificially inflating points

that sounds alot better

Indeed and it gives some relief. Thanks a lot Indian.

IndianScout wrote:

ok wording has changed to

§ Using Vehicles removed from battlefield for purposes of artificially inflating points

that sounds alot better

Does it applies to commander that sit in a tank just to boost their time in an armor???

Buzerk1 wrote:

IndianScout wrote:

ok wording has changed to

§ Using Vehicles removed from battlefield for purposes of artificially inflating points

that sounds alot better

Does it applies to commander that sit in a tank just to boost their time in an armor???

I hope not. I sit in tanks and other vehicles when noone from my team is around. Nothing says "stay away from my UAV trailer" like a 120mm tank round.

I agree with a majority of the new ROE but am skeptical as to how EA or Administrators will enforce them especially in privately rented servers (i.e. clans).  It seems to me that this will depend on the honesty of the server admins to bring to light anyone not following the ROE and we all know for the most part that isn't going to happen. 

With the number of happy go lucky admins out there that are kick/ban happy or that may become irritated with getting owned I foresee the number of "This guys is a haxor/padder so delete his account" complaints doubling for you in the near future.

Lastly, I understand that clans/individuals pay for private servers (as does my clan) and may modify the server rules as long as those mods do not violate the ROE.  How is EA going to validate the hundreds of ranked server to ensure they are ROE compliant.  What will be the result should a player go into a private server and not know what that servers ROE is (i.e. it isn't posted and no script messages), jihad jeeps or something to that affect, and is turned in by server admins?  Will it be investigated or will thier account be reset without warning?  I think the ROE needs to contain not only a list of Violations but also a list of Consequences.

Don't get me wrong, as I said above I like the ROE, rules govern battles and without them chaos is sure to reign.  It just seems as valid as having a ROE is, actually validating it will be next to impossible (with the exception of EA serves).

These are community rules, put out for discussion and tweaking as EA has stated.  As some of you may have noticed some of the rules have been modified and or tweaked due to the feedback EA and our program has received...

and yes these rules are Official...

you know it really doesnt bother me, as english is my second language and I have had to deal with stupidity and racism my whole life..

I am not from some other country, I

I am native american, born and raised on an Indian reservation here in the US,,

so say what you will,

it's all been said before...

Indian