Finray
Hup! Dos, Tres, Cuatro
+2,629|6008|Catherine Black
doesn't sound very hard
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Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5578|London, England

Finray wrote:

doesn't sound very hard
You have to write it as if the person has never seen a stapler before, and without images.
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Hurricane2k9
Pendulous Sweaty Balls
+1,538|5922|College Park, MD

Uzique wrote:

Hurricane2k9 wrote:

@DF well you're not even a business major so you're the one attending mine

MUSC205 History of Popular Music, 1950-Present; (3 credits) Grade Method: REG/P-F/AUD. CORE History or Theory of Arts (HA) Course.

A historical survey of rock music (blues, rock, soul, metal, rap, etc.) from circa 1950 to the present, with emphasis on popular music as music and popular music as social history.

shit better not be filled up before I get to register though
looks really good, do it!
can't tell if serious, but either way I really want to. if it fills up before my registration date i'll just take it in the summer

e: That does sound hard, Jay. Although it's better than describing what salt tastes like.

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Cybargs
Moderated
+2,285|6936

Uzique wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

the other being that I like being paid).
herp derp 2 of my friends that graduated in my class with the same class degree as me now have hr/recruitment jobs in the city for £24/30k a year starting salary, aged 21/22. i suppose that's not being paid to you though, right, because they're not chartered and don't mess around with tools in their spare time like REAL EDUCATED AND REAL SMARTS AND SUCCESSFUL people do.
Well plumbers here get paid at 40k pounds a year here. So no theyre not really successful imo.
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Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6691
starting salary in a CAREER. you know, where you go up through a business. you know, as in within 5 years you can expect a nice payrise. as in, 20 years later you'll be making 2-3 times as much, possibly. as if trades are comparable. plus plumbers don't have an education. £40k/year is great if the money is all you care about and you want to be doing manual labour and unplugging someone else's sink for the rest of your life.
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Cybargs
Moderated
+2,285|6936

Uzique wrote:

starting salary in a CAREER. you know, where you go up through a business. you know, as in within 5 years you can expect a nice payrise. as in, 20 years later you'll be making 2-3 times as much, possibly. as if trades are comparable. plus plumbers don't have an education. £40k/year is great if the money is all you care about and you want to be doing manual labour and unplugging someone else's sink for the rest of your life.
you mad bro
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Stimey
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+786|6340|Ontario | Canada

Jay wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

Uzique wrote:

... well there is because a page-length doesn't account for any formatting (in the case of a long piece of work: breaks, sub-titles, sections, appendices etc.) nor does it account for the length and space consumption of footnotes and referencing (something exempted from word-counts). also academic essays need a bibliography and full referencing style which consumes ~1 page minimum in itself. asking for a piece of work by page-length is pretty dumb. for a start, if you have some try-too-hard-to-please undergraduates putting out some verbiose and erudite wankery, the long running sentences of even longer words will take up way more space than someone writing simply and in a terse manner. you can fill up page-space in many more ways to artificially inflate your work than you can if you just write to a word count specification. you don't even need to mention font sizes and margins and retarded high-school level shit like that because every single academic essay must conform to a general stylesheet, anyway. it's a patronising waste of time to be fussing over your font sizes when you're having contact time with a professor.
At school we had to write 'observations', a page of tosh about something like tying a shoelace. I think I achieved the pinnacle by using a whole line for 'a' - the english teacher gave up on me after that.

Its one reason I became an engineer (the other being that I like being paid).
In a tech writing class I took I once had to describe how a stapler functioned. Two pages, double spaced. Harder than it sounds, and probably the most tedious thing I've ever done.
We had to do the same thing for a CD drive..

Awful.
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Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6691

Cybargs wrote:

Uzique wrote:

starting salary in a CAREER. you know, where you go up through a business. you know, as in within 5 years you can expect a nice payrise. as in, 20 years later you'll be making 2-3 times as much, possibly. as if trades are comparable. plus plumbers don't have an education. £40k/year is great if the money is all you care about and you want to be doing manual labour and unplugging someone else's sink for the rest of your life.
you mad bro
go murder another girl and pretend to be some hard-ass fugitive you fat shit
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Pochsy
Artifice of Eternity
+702|5763|Toronto
Tried this in EE already, but hopefully more people check this thread...doubtful

Does anybody know what  variance and kurtosis tell about a probability distribution in statistics? I know what they measure, but I'm not sure how these numbers of significant. I've tried the internet, but it still makes no sense to me.

This is the context:
QUALITY
                                                        Valid      Cum
Value Label             Value  Frequency  Percent  Percent  Percent

                               .00      3422     13.5     13.7     13.7
                             1.00      1187      4.7      4.8     18.5
                             2.00      1832      7.2      7.3     25.8
                             3.00      1746      6.9      7.0     32.8
                             4.00      1756      6.9      7.0     39.8
                             5.00      1736      6.8      6.9     46.8
                             6.00      1855      7.3      7.4     54.2
                             7.00      1594      6.3      6.4     60.6
                             8.00      1696      6.7      6.8     67.3
                             9.00      1556      6.1      6.2     73.6
                            10.00      1416      5.6      5.7     79.2
                            11.00      1146      4.5      4.6     83.8
                            12.00      1072      4.2      4.3     88.1
                            13.00       763      3.0      3.1     91.2
                            14.00       625      2.5      2.5     93.7
                            15.00       563      2.2      2.3     95.9
                            16.00       379      1.5      1.5     97.5
                            17.00       217       .9       .9     98.3
                            18.00       153       .6       .6     98.9
                            19.00        91       .4       .4     99.3
                            20.00       175       .7       .7    100.0
                              .         417      1.6   Missing
                                     -------  -------  -------
                            Total     25397    100.0    100.0

Mean          6.410      Std err        .030      Median        6.000
Mode           .000      Std dev       4.792      Variance     22.963
Kurtosis      -.480      S E Kurt       .031      Skewness       .492
S E Skew       .015      Range        20.000      Minimum        .000
Maximum      20.000      Sum      160133.000
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nukchebi0
Пушкин, наше всё
+387|6544|New Haven, CT

Uzique wrote:

Jay wrote:

Uzique wrote:

single spaced... your profs don't care to comment on your work in more depth, then?

and hang on, what sorta retarded college asks for essays in page-length? word length makes far more sense
Most professors require a standard font, margin sizes etc so the number of words per page ends up being around 800 per page. Because of this, there is no difference between asking for a word count or asking for a certain number of pages.
... well there is because a page-length doesn't account for any formatting (in the case of a long piece of work: breaks, sub-titles, sections, appendices etc.) nor does it account for the length and space consumption of footnotes and referencing (something exempted from word-counts). also academic essays need a bibliography and full referencing style which consumes ~1 page minimum in itself. asking for a piece of work by page-length is pretty dumb. for a start, if you have some try-too-hard-to-please undergraduates putting out some verbiose and erudite wankery, the long running sentences of even longer words will take up way more space than someone writing simply and in a terse manner. you can fill up page-space in many more ways to artificially inflate your work than you can if you just write to a word count specification. you don't even need to mention font sizes and margins and retarded high-school level shit like that because every single academic essay must conform to a general stylesheet, anyway. it's a patronising waste of time to be fussing over your font sizes when you're having contact time with a professor.
A word count specification can be artificially achieved with a verbose writing style.
Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6691
yeah, and so can a very low mark from a frustrated and belaboured professor that is marking it. what's your point? a word count is a far more precise and wieldy specification than asking for '10 pages on x'.

Last edited by Uzique (2011-11-05 13:20:22)

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nukchebi0
Пушкин, наше всё
+387|6544|New Haven, CT

Uzique wrote:

yeah, and so can a very low mark from a frustrated and belaboured professor that is marking it. what's your point? a word count is a far more precise and wieldy specification than asking for '10 pages on x'.
My point is that using word count as a specification doesn't prevent "try-too-hard-to-please undergraduates" from using unnecessary verbiage and so forth to artificially occupy space. They simply aim to fill an abstract word count rather than physical space on the page.
Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6691
rofl listen to yourself. "and so forth". you are that which you criticise. my point is that word count is more accurate and is a general stylesheet standard that will make sense to everyone, regardless of institution or discipline. leading academic journals don't ask for "3 pages on postmodern feminist dystopias" because it's fucking retarded. they ask for word-counts. similarly, online/academic checking sites don't assess your work's length in pages - it breaks it down into a word count. it's the best measure. anyway-- pointless argument.
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nukchebi0
Пушкин, наше всё
+387|6544|New Haven, CT

Uzique wrote:

rofl listen to yourself. "and so forth". you are that which you criticise. my point is that word count is more accurate and is a general stylesheet standard that will make sense to everyone, regardless of institution or discipline. leading academic journals don't ask for "3 pages on postmodern feminist dystopias" because it's fucking retarded. they ask for word-counts. similarly, online/academic checking sites don't assess your work's length in pages - it breaks it down into a word count. it's the best measure. anyway-- pointless argument.
Lol, there was never any attempt made to contest the superiority of word count as a specification.
Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6691
i really want to send you to some writing classes
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nukchebi0
Пушкин, наше всё
+387|6544|New Haven, CT

Uzique wrote:

i really want to send you to some writing classes
lol

if you agree to take a reading comprehension class i'll go

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Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6691
right. the guy doing a postgraduate degree reading books has comprehension issues, and it's not possibly the fact that your contrived prose is torturous. right. dude you read like a 14 year old that has just discovered dickens and thinks that ostentation and affect are the prime qualities of good writing. that or you're carrying around a few weighty textbooks in your recent memory and now aspire to academic imitation. you're completely incapable of talking about even the most casual thing in a simple way. it's as if common, conversational language is a taboo for you. that shit stops being impressive once you climb over that age 14 turnstile.

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nukchebi0
Пушкин, наше всё
+387|6544|New Haven, CT

Uzique wrote:

right. the guy doing a postgraduate degree reading books has comprehension issues, and it's not possibly the fact that your contrived prose is torturous. right. dude you read like a 14 year old that has just discovered dickens and thinks that ostentation and affect are the prime qualities of good writing. that or you're carrying around a few weighty textbooks in your recent memory and now aspire to academic imitation. you're completely incapable of talking about even the most casual thing in a simple way. it's as if common, conversational language is a taboo for you. that shit stops being impressive once you climb over that age 14 turnstile.
Nah, it simply that contriving sentences with ostentatious words and tortured syntax results in hilarious posts such as this.

And regardless, it seems reasonable to expect a postgraduate student in literature would have enough experience with various complex written styles of the English language to understand my "contrived prose."
Winston_Churchill
Bazinga!
+521|6959|Toronto | Canada

whats the english major equivalent of a nerd war?
Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6691
i can understand it, sure, but it's unnecessary. my complaint isn't that your writing is 'too difficult' for me (though i get the feeling you'd get off on it if it were) - my complaint is that your writing is simply torturous. as i said, it might impress someone of lesser intelligence ("oh big words and he sounds fancy!") but really you're just breaking the no.1 rule of writing by being unable to communicate something in a simple way. it's reasonable to expect me as a "postgraduate student in literature" to "have enough experience" with difficult writing, sure; but that's the difficult writing of highly talented and genius writers with something profound to say, which you most certainly are not. you're someone wholly incapable of even expressing a simple thing in a clear manner. it's all smokes and mirrors and i'm not sure how you get off on typing as if you're a wallflower.

Last edited by Uzique (2011-11-05 14:44:18)

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HaiBai
Your thoughts, insights, and musings on this matter intrigue me
+304|5704|Bolingbrook, Illinois

Uzique wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

the other being that I like being paid).
herp derp 2 of my friends that graduated in my class with the same class degree as me now have hr/recruitment jobs in the city for £24/30k a year starting salary, aged 21/22. i suppose that's not being paid to you though, right, because they're not chartered and don't mess around with tools in their spare time like REAL EDUCATED AND REAL SMARTS AND SUCCESSFUL people do.
since when is that a starting salary to be proud of
DesertFox-
The very model of a modern major general
+796|6905|United States of America
The 24 seems a bit low (though it's still more than my sister is making at present), but 30k pounds is nothing to scoff at if you're living on your own. Sure, you won't be able to live in a penthouse in the middle of NYC, but that's certainly good enough.
nukchebi0
Пушкин, наше всё
+387|6544|New Haven, CT

Uzique wrote:

i can understand it, sure, but it's unnecessary. my complaint isn't that your writing is 'too difficult' for me (though i get the feeling you'd get off on it if it were) - my complaint is that your writing is simply torturous. as i said, it might impress someone of lesser intelligence ("oh big words and he sounds fancy!") but really you're just breaking the no.1 rule of writing by being unable to communicate something in a simple way. it's reasonable to expect me as a "postgraduate student in literature" to "have enough experience" with difficult writing, sure; but that's the difficult writing of highly talented and genius writers with something profound to say, which you most certainly are not. you're someone wholly incapable of even expressing a simple thing in a clear manner. it's all smokes and mirrors and i'm not sure how you get off on typing as if you're a wallflower.
I disagree that it is unnecessary. When I intentionally write like that, it gives you an opportunity to get off from thinking you are more intelligent than me, and it gives me something funny to laugh at when you write posts conveying those sentiments.

I could easily write in a simple manner, but it isn't as fun for either of us.
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5578|London, England

Winston_Churchill wrote:

whats the english major equivalent of a nerd war?
This.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5578|London, England

DesertFox- wrote:

The 24 seems a bit low (though it's still more than my sister is making at present), but 30k pounds is nothing to scoff at if you're living on your own. Sure, you won't be able to live in a penthouse in the middle of NYC, but that's certainly good enough.
You wouldn't be able to afford NYC at all. More than half your pay would go towards rent.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat

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