It's the least they could do since they sent me a DOA card via RMA...FloppY_ wrote:
A fair tradeSydney wrote:
I just jizzed in my pantsHello David,
I’m contacting you regarding the RMA 542110001566 from our USA Branch.
They’ve asked to take it over for Europe. We can send you a new card – GTX275 as a replacement of your 8800GTX Card.
But we need your card – 8800GTX- to be sent back to our office here.
Please send the card back to:
EVGA Europe
RMA Department
Jacobus Spijkerdreef 386
2132 PZ Hoofddorp
The Netherlands
+31-(0)23-7526899
Thank you.
Best Regards,
Knud Gosens
EVGA Europe
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Not! You lucky git
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news … -trial.ars
Interesting... sounds like it could seriously change the internet and make huge problems
Interesting... sounds like it could seriously change the internet and make huge problems
IPv6? Welcome to fifteen years ago. The longer network operators delay, the harder the transition will hit.Winston_Churchill wrote:
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2010/01/comcast-running-out-of-ipv4-addresses-beginning-ipv6-trial.ars
Interesting... sounds like it could seriously change the internet and make huge problems
Well apparently they're at a critical low now and have no other options like what they've used to delay before.
Shit will hit the fan when this happens though
Shit will hit the fan when this happens though
yay my future job just got more complicatedWinston_Churchill wrote:
Well apparently they're at a critical low now and have no other options like what they've used to delay before.
Shit will hit the fan when this happens though
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Buying a 1TB HDD... I assume Samsung F2 is the way to go? (Haven't bought any HDD's in a while)
Much less complicated, actually.ebug9 wrote:
yay my future job just got more complicatedWinston_Churchill wrote:
Well apparently they're at a critical low now and have no other options like what they've used to delay before.
Shit will hit the fan when this happens though
F1 is the best afaik... Im looking to pick one up myself when I get the moneyLittle BaBy JESUS wrote:
Buying a 1TB HDD... I assume Samsung F2 is the way to go? (Haven't bought any HDD's in a while)
i don't know what this ipv6 heeby jeeby is but should i sign up for it??Winston_Churchill wrote:
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2010/01/comcast-running-out-of-ipv4-addresses-beginning-ipv6-trial.ars
Interesting... sounds like it could seriously change the internet and make huge problems
my whole neighborhood is comcast, my house was just built in 2008 with the newest fiber optic cables and such
IPV6 has nothing to do with your infrastructure, it's just a logical addressing thing. Unless you know you'll have issues with it, you should go IPV6.=NHB=Shadow wrote:
i don't know what this ipv6 heeby jeeby is but should i sign up for it??Winston_Churchill wrote:
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2010/01/comcast-running-out-of-ipv4-addresses-beginning-ipv6-trial.ars
Interesting... sounds like it could seriously change the internet and make huge problems
my whole neighborhood is comcast, my house was just built in 2008 with the newest fiber optic cables and such
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
Spinpoint F3's are some of the fastest (non-insane pricetag) drives available atm...Wallpaper wrote:
F1 is the best afaik... Im looking to pick one up myself when I get the moneyLittle BaBy JESUS wrote:
Buying a 1TB HDD... I assume Samsung F2 is the way to go? (Haven't bought any HDD's in a while)
Your thoughts, insights, and musings on this matter intrigue me
If you've got a recent Comcast cable installation, you ought to be good for the trial. It probably wouldn't make a whole lot of sense for you to sign up, though. The information that they're collecting suggests that they want you to set up your internal network for IPv6 addressing, which typically includes replacing any router you may have in your network, as well as configuring IPv6 for all of your computers. Only one of their four planned trials will let you keep your IPv4 addressing in your network.=NHB=Shadow wrote:
i don't know what this ipv6 heeby jeeby is but should i sign up for it??Winston_Churchill wrote:
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2010/01/comcast-running-out-of-ipv4-addresses-beginning-ipv6-trial.ars
Interesting... sounds like it could seriously change the internet and make huge problems
my whole neighborhood is comcast, my house was just built in 2008 with the newest fiber optic cables and such
IPv6 has a lot to do with infrastructure, and your suggestion is the direct opposite of the one that you should be making. Unless you know that you can function with IPv6, you should stay on IPv4.Freezer7Pro wrote:
IPV6 has nothing to do with your infrastructure, it's just a logical addressing thing. Unless you know you'll have issues with it, you should go IPV6.=NHB=Shadow wrote:
i don't know what this ipv6 heeby jeeby is but should i sign up for it??Winston_Churchill wrote:
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2010/01/comcast-running-out-of-ipv4-addresses-beginning-ipv6-trial.ars
Interesting... sounds like it could seriously change the internet and make huge problems
my whole neighborhood is comcast, my house was just built in 2008 with the newest fiber optic cables and such
There shouldn't be any reason why IPv6 can't be resolved via firmware updates.
Please, educate the rest of us on why this is.Ilocano wrote:
There shouldn't be any reason why IPv6 can't be resolved via firmware updates.
I'm referring to the routers, switches, repeaters, etc. in the LAN. WAN infrastruture, well, that's another story.mikkel wrote:
Please, educate the rest of us on why this is.Ilocano wrote:
There shouldn't be any reason why IPv6 can't be resolved via firmware updates.
IPv6 testing at work was already done over a year ago on our DNS Test servers. We're just waiting for the switch-over.
There are a whole lot of barriers to IPv6 adoption in the LAN to be aware of, though.Ilocano wrote:
I'm referring to the routers, switches, repeaters, etc. in the LAN. WAN infrastruture, well, that's another story.mikkel wrote:
Please, educate the rest of us on why this is.Ilocano wrote:
There shouldn't be any reason why IPv6 can't be resolved via firmware updates.
IPv6 testing at work was already done over a year ago on our DNS Test servers. We're just waiting for the switch-over.
Switches that are at all concerned about IP forwarding typically feature ASIC-based hardware forwarding, and adding hardware IPv6 forwarding to these is typically impossible. Many IP forwarding switches deployed do not feature IPv6 forwarding, and the ones that do feature it through post-release software updates do so in software, offering performance that is entirely insufficient for production networks.
Residential gateways, IP aware modems and other annoyances are typically designed in one of two ways. One design is the router-on-a-chip design, in which the hardware, if at all programmable, isn't dimensioned to run two separate network stacks, let alone one requiring as much complexity to function properly as IPv6 does. The second is the typical small embedded system running some form of operating system featuring hardware that, if you're lucky, will keep up with your DOCSIS 3 connection if all you do is forwarding and NAT. Expecting these to run dual-stack is like expecting a fat man to run a marathon. Even if it's possible, it won't exactly be fast.
For the designs that are capable of running IPv6 to some measure of acceptable performance on general hardware comes the issue of software design. The vast majority of IPv4 units that are in production are truly IPv4 units, and every part of the software is written strictly with IPv4 in mind. Much of it isn't modular enough to simply have an IPv6 forwarding module tossed in, and beyond forwarding, you have DNS, DHCPv6, v6 ACLs, v6 firewalls, v6 support for embedded third party services (Content filtering, traffic inspection, etc.), and all manner of disgusting features to worry about.
At best, the software architecture is well-suited for easy implementation, however the amount of code and the testing required to put out such a massive change is hardly feasible for currently supported models, and most certainly not at all feasible for the models which are no longer in production, and these make up the vast majority of units on the market.
IPv6 is coming, just as it has been for years. It just isn't coming fast enough.
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what mikkel said
The F3 is the fastest of all drives tested by Toms Hardware...FloppY_ wrote:
Spinpoint F3's are some of the fastest (non-insane pricetag) drives available atm...Wallpaper wrote:
F1 is the best afaik... Im looking to pick one up myself when I get the moneyLittle BaBy JESUS wrote:
Buying a 1TB HDD... I assume Samsung F2 is the way to go? (Haven't bought any HDD's in a while)
http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/2009 … ,1010.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/2009 … ,1013.html
Your thoughts, insights, and musings on this matter intrigue me
http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/IPv6Jenspm wrote:
what mikkel said
What you're showing is that Linux does IPv6. That isn't a secret. You aren't addressing any of the obstacles presented.
Holy shit awesome batman.
EVGA pre-emptively sent me a GTX275 via RMA, now I just have to ship the broken 8800GTX to them
EVGA pre-emptively sent me a GTX275 via RMA, now I just have to ship the broken 8800GTX to them
Don't?
What I'm saying is that they aren't as insurmountable as you make them out to be. And what with tons of routers compatible with dd-wrt, fpr those who can, IPv6 isn't that difficult to implement on a LAN.mikkel wrote:
What you're showing is that Linux does IPv6. That isn't a secret. You aren't addressing any of the obstacles presented.
Thats similar to what I'm going to do soon with my WD external. It started getting corrupted sectors all over so I opened the case and plugged the drive in directly in SATA and saved most of the data. Now I need to send it back and hope they dont notice that I opened itSydney wrote:
Holy shit awesome batman.
EVGA pre-emptively sent me a GTX275 via RMA, now I just have to ship the broken 8800GTX to them
They have a thing where they send a new drive back before I send mine out as well, I'm gonna try that.
The cases that I have presented as being insurmountable are insurmountable by virtue of design. As in, it's physically impossible to support on the hardware. The cases that I have presented as being challenging to support are challenging to support. First and foremost, DD-WRT is an enthusiast operating system, not a solution to the problem at hand. Secondly, the majority of the list of devices supported by DD-WRT do so by settling for small, computationally light implementations with limited feature sets. They do this because the hardware resources are insufficient to run anything larger. When you're exhausting the processing and memory capacity of your router just by running the operating system, you're not also going to support two stacks running two NAT processes while getting the kind of throughput that your ISP delivers. Hardware is not an inexhaustible resource.Ilocano wrote:
What I'm saying is that they aren't as insurmountable as you make them out to be. And what with tons of routers compatible with dd-wrt, fpr those who can, IPv6 isn't that difficult to implement on a LAN.mikkel wrote:
What you're showing is that Linux does IPv6. That isn't a secret. You aren't addressing any of the obstacles presented.Ilocano wrote:
http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/IPv6
Secondly, linking to DD-WRT as some sort of solution to provide IPv6 to IPv4 units is not only technically misguided, but also not meaningful from a business perspective. Manufacturers build their own software. They do so for reasons of control, support and warranty. DD-WRT does nothing to change the necessity for manufacturers to alter their own software, if possible, to support IPv6, as very few, if any, of the large manufacturers would ever consider touching DD-WRT.
I have attended many seminars with large manufacturers, and spoken to many engineers of the same companies regarding IPv6 support and solutions, and it is universally accepted that CPE support is a large barrier to IPv6 deployment that can only be resolved through implementation of IPv6 in new and future hardware. Updating hardware deployed for IPv4 is not considered as a solution, and is not considered practically possible outside of certain domains.
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