Tech: Open thread

2010-02-18 14:37:51

#1826

FloppY_: +1,010|6736|Denmark aka Automotive Hell

Winston_Churchill wrote:
FloppY_ wrote:
Winston_Churchill wrote:
Cant justify if they're doing what you're doing, gaming, yes.

But with other programs such as encoding which take advantage of the HT then of course it's worth it.
no sir..

paying 50% more for 10% more is not worth it, nomatter what you do with it...
But its not 10% more. It would be quite a bit more, even on the test you quoted it was almost double the speed of the 750.

In 1 thing... 1 out of like 30 tests it was that fast, the rest were ~5% max one way or the other...

Your thoughts, insights, and musings on this matter intrigue me

2010-02-18 14:42:25

#1827

Winston_Churchill: Bazinga!; +521|7189|Toronto | Canada

Well considering your examples didnt show any modern encoding codecs and technology will develop with HT as it gets popular again I'm quite sure it will make a difference. I know for one the x264 codec does have quite a difference with HT.

2010-02-18 20:05:54

#1828

GC_PaNzerFIN: Work and study @ Technical Uni; +528|6864|Finland

Flops the 750 gets pounded with multi-GPU and hard number crunching.

Here are some bench numbers with number crunching http://www.behardware.com/articles/778- … ssors.html

They didn't test the multi-GPU but that is another thing benefitting from the 920.

Last edited by GC_PaNzerFIN (2010-02-18 20:06:22)

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2010-02-19 01:58:45

#1829

FloppY_: +1,010|6736|Denmark aka Automotive Hell

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
Flops the 750 gets pounded with multi-GPU and hard number crunching.

Here are some bench numbers with number crunching http://www.behardware.com/articles/778- … ssors.html

They didn't test the multi-GPU but that is another thing benefitting from the 920.

I see nothing getting "pounded" in those charts Panz...

And multi-gpu is not really a price/performance choice tbh...

Last edited by FloppY_ (2010-02-19 01:59:35)

Your thoughts, insights, and musings on this matter intrigue me

2010-02-19 06:03:00

#1830

IrishGrimReaper: Field Marshal | o |; +142|7171|Ireland | Monaghan

AV40=Win.

Intel Core i7 CPU 920 @ 4GHz || 3x2 GB OCZ 1600Mhz DDR3 || 80GB Intel X25-M Gen 2 || KFA2 GTX 480 1536Mb ||| Samsung T220 || Xonar DX 7.1 || AV 40 || P6T Deluxe V2 || Win 7 HP 64 Bit || Lian Li P80

2010-02-19 12:08:52

#1831

TSI: Cholera in the time of love; +247|6431|Toronto

IrishGrimReaper wrote:
AV40=Win.

I like pie.

2010-02-19 18:49:23

#1832

mcminty: Moderating your content for the Australian Govt.; +879|7171|Sydney, Australia

IrishGrimReaper wrote:
AV40=Win.

Blaaaaah, I want so bad. Tho I can't find anywhere in Sydney that sells them.. ><

2010-02-21 11:38:08

#1833

-Whiteroom-: Pineapplewhat; +572|7109|BC, Canada

To you sound freaks out there:
Is this a good price/combo?
Sennheiser PC350 Gaming Stereo Headset 10-26000HZ 150OHM 10FT Black Noise Cancel Mic On sale for 129CAD
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php? … omoid=1139
and
AuzenTech X-PLOSION Cinema 7.1 Sound Card DTS Connect Dolby Digital Live Sound Card PCI 32BIT On sale for 49CAD
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php? … omoid=1139

I need to keep the price below 200CAD, and I saw the sennheisers on sale so..

Last edited by Nic (2010-02-21 11:46:18)

2010-02-21 22:29:58

#1834

-Whiteroom-: Pineapplewhat; +572|7109|BC, Canada

Ok no help there... usually you can't get the audio guys to stop giving their opinions on sound stuff.
I think I'm gonna go with a set of tritton AX51 pros, whats a good sound card for gaming for 100CAD or less please? I was looking at the HT omega striker...

2010-02-22 20:37:07

#1835

bugz: Fission Mailed; +3,311|6762

(PhysOrg.com) -- One-terabyte (TB) solid state drives (SSDs) are expected to be released in a couple of years, and they will be about the size of the average postage stamp.

A team of Japanese researchers from Toshiba and the Keio University in Tokyo, led by Professor Tadahiro Kuroda, claims to have developed a technique that will reduce the size of SSDs by around 90 per cent. Not only that, but the technology also increases their energy efficiency by 70 per cent and makes them cheaper to manufacture.

A prototype of the new SSD consists of one controller chip and 128 NAND flash memory chips. The data transfer speed is said to be 2 GB per second, and Nikkei said that since the system is based on radio communication its production costs are lower. All this could help SSDs become the standard system for data storage in the future.

The SSDs are expected to be available commercially in 2012, and by then their specifications may have improved even further. Their expected retail price is unknown at this stage.

http://www.physorg.com/news185438129.html#top

Steam: http://steamcommunity.com/id/ebug122

2010-02-23 04:23:46

#1836

Finray: Hup! Dos, Tres, Cuatro; +2,629|6238|Catherine Black

Amazing.

2010-02-24 04:07:09

#1837

Freezer7Pro: I don't come here a lot anymore.; +1,447|6647|Winland

ebug9 wrote:

(PhysOrg.com) -- One-terabyte (TB) solid state drives (SSDs) are expected to be released in a couple of years, and they will be about the size of the average postage stamp.

A team of Japanese researchers from Toshiba and the Keio University in Tokyo, led by Professor Tadahiro Kuroda, claims to have developed a technique that will reduce the size of SSDs by around 90 per cent. Not only that, but the technology also increases their energy efficiency by 70 per cent and makes them cheaper to manufacture.

A prototype of the new SSD consists of one controller chip and 128 NAND flash memory chips. The data transfer speed is said to be 2 GB per second, and Nikkei said that since the system is based on radio communication its production costs are lower. All this could help SSDs become the standard system for data storage in the future.

The SSDs are expected to be available commercially in 2012, and by then their specifications may have improved even further. Their expected retail price is unknown at this stage.
http://www.physorg.com/news185438129.html#top

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP

2010-02-24 14:02:12

#1838

Sydney: 2λчиэλ; +783|7293|Reykjavík, Iceland.

Wow, on my quest for higher clocks, I found out my RAM isn't bottlenecking at all, it went from 800MHz to 1080MHz and still stable

Trying to push my E8500 C0 to 4.5GHz, it just doesn't want to

2010-02-24 14:03:43

#1839

Finray: Hup! Dos, Tres, Cuatro; +2,629|6238|Catherine Black

It does want to, ur just doin it rong

1667 days btw.

2010-02-24 14:06:05

#1840

Sydney: 2λчиэλ; +783|7293|Reykjavík, Iceland.

Got it stable at 4.1GHz at just under 1.4V. Once I get my WC I should be able to push my voltages higher and thus reaching a higher FSB

2010-02-24 14:09:20

#1841

FloppY_: +1,010|6736|Denmark aka Automotive Hell

Sydney wrote:
Got it stable at 4.1GHz at just under 1.4V. Once I get my WC I should be able to push my voltages higher and thus reaching a higher FSB

In other news:
My E8500 is running pretty damn well @ stock FSB & Volt

Your thoughts, insights, and musings on this matter intrigue me

2010-02-24 14:39:30

#1842

Sydney: 2λчиэλ; +783|7293|Reykjavík, Iceland.

1.435V at the moment, I need to have my head checked.

Highest temps I got using IBT was 23K to TJmax.

2010-02-24 14:50:04

#1843

Finray: Hup! Dos, Tres, Cuatro; +2,629|6238|Catherine Black

I'm sitting on 1.52v

2010-02-24 14:53:14

#1844

Sydney: 2λчиэλ; +783|7293|Reykjavík, Iceland.

1.52V is fine for 65nm, but you have to be mad to use that for 45nm

2010-02-24 15:09:22

#1845

Finray: Hup! Dos, Tres, Cuatro; +2,629|6238|Catherine Black

Sydney wrote:
1.52V is fine for 65nm, but you have to be mad to use that for 45nm

It's 1.52 in the BIOS, I think CPU-z reports 1.49.. still an insane Voltage though. It's been there from when I thought my CPU wasn't stable on anything less, when infact it was my RAM that was the issue. I should really reduce it but I'm too lazy.. and whenever I'm not using my computer it goes on Sleep, not Shut Down

2010-02-24 15:27:41

#1846

Freezer7Pro: I don't come here a lot anymore.; +1,447|6647|Winland

Finray wrote:
Sydney wrote:
1.52V is fine for 65nm, but you have to be mad to use that for 45nm
It's 1.52 in the BIOS, I think CPU-z reports 1.49.. still an insane Voltage though. It's been there from when I thought my CPU wasn't stable on anything less, when infact it was my RAM that was the issue. I should really reduce it but I'm too lazy.. and whenever I'm not using my computer it goes on Sleep, not Shut Down

That doesn't change the fact that 1.5V is far too high for 45nm processors.

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP

2010-02-24 15:35:14

#1847

Finray: Hup! Dos, Tres, Cuatro; +2,629|6238|Catherine Black

Freezer7Pro wrote:
Finray wrote:
Sydney wrote:
1.52V is fine for 65nm, but you have to be mad to use that for 45nm
It's 1.52 in the BIOS, I think CPU-z reports 1.49.. still an insane Voltage though. It's been there from when I thought my CPU wasn't stable on anything less, when infact it was my RAM that was the issue. I should really reduce it but I'm too lazy.. and whenever I'm not using my computer it goes on Sleep, not Shut Down
That doesn't change the fact that 1.5V is far too high for 45nm processors.

Finray wrote:
still an insane Voltage though.

I know, bro.

2010-02-24 20:25:03

#1848

GC_PaNzerFIN: Work and study @ Technical Uni; +528|6864|Finland

Why are you using it then? Unless you are >4500MHz I can't see how to justify raping the chip.

Unless you intentionally want to break it...

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2010-02-24 20:37:20

#1849

13urnzz: Banned; +5,830|6947

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
Unless you intentionally want to break it...

sshh! a self ban is a ban nonetheless . . .

2010-02-25 00:35:54

#1850

Sydney: 2λчиэλ; +783|7293|Reykjavík, Iceland.

I had to pump mine up to 1.418V in CPU-Z to reach 4.1GHz. Damned C0 stepping.

Temps went up to Tj_max - 20°C using IBT, I blame my unlapped TRUE120. Can't wait to apply watercooling to that sonofabitch

Correct me if I'm wrong, but high voltage doesn't kill the chip as long as it's properly cooled, right? Assuming you don't fluctuate too much.

Last edited by Sydney (2010-02-25 00:38:15)

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