Macbeth
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A Kansas man faces life in prison after pleading guilty Wednesday to raping his 10-year-old stepdaughter and setting her on fire, local media reports.

Newberry faces at least 25 years in prison for rape and another 14 years for attempted murder, the Eagle reported.
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Why would nearly killing a person net you less time than raping someone? Both are harsh crimes but shouldn't the attempted murder be equal to or greater than the rape charge?
SEREMAKER
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the mental stability is harder to recover from rape then attempted murder








needs to be as equal

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AussieReaper
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"Attempted" murder is worse than attempted rape.

But he did rape.
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Hakei
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In most cases, women would find it more traumatic to be raped than to be a victim of an attempted murder.
LT.Victim
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I think it has to do with the fact that the punishment for Rape is somewhat set in stone because it usually involve the same circumstances where as attempted murder can be anything from stabbing a guy a few times to setting him on fire.

I don't really know how to reason it properly, but either way he is going to jail for a long time.
TrueMusou
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Holy shit...I feel absolutely disgusted that this is something a human being is capable of. I feel sorry for the girl...living her life is literally gonna be a nightmare at this point. I'd hate to say this...but I think she would be better off dead after this. I wouldn't be able to cope after such a traumatic ordeal.
Dilbert_X
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Hakei wrote:

In most cases, women would find it more traumatic to be raped than to be a victim of an attempted murder.
I've seen surveys where many women would prefer to be assaulted and suffer serious disfigurement  - eg a major scar on the face - than be raped.

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Hurricane2k9
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the real question is why the fucuk don't they jsut shoot him and be odne iwht it

christ 'wer e a nation of foucking pussies
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DrunkFace
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TrueMusou wrote:

Holy shit...I feel absolutely disgusted that this is something a human being is capable of. I feel sorry for the girl...living her life is literally gonna be a nightmare at this point. I'd hate to say this...but I think she would be better off dead after this. I wouldn't be able to cope after such a traumatic ordeal.
No offence, but harden the fuck up. And no, they wouldn't be better of dead.

Hakei wrote:

In most cases, women would find it more traumatic to be raped than to be a victim of an attempted murder.
You know this because?
[ ] Experience (victim)
[ ] Experience (perpetrator)
[ ] You're a women.
[ ] You're a qualified councillor
[ ] You're full of shit and just make assumptions about shit you know nothing about.
13urnzz
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the last one for me. assumptions rule, i mean srsly.
they are the shortcut to anyone's argument, they re-affirm one's position and allow
you to be lazy. sit on the right or left, sqwak the talking points and bingo! if you're not right
you are certainly left. that is all that matters today - fuck your feelings, fuck your beliefs, go
with the flow, pick a side and harmonize with the trendy talking head for your side!
Ticia
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In this case like AussieReaper mentioned the key word is attempted.

As for rape getting the same penal treatment as murder i never saw that before. The stigma of a rapist is a lot worse than of a murderer though maybe because at times there are valid reasons to kill someone but rape is just always wrong.

Oh and being a woman i do feel it would be more traumatic to be raped than to be almost killed unless i would get physically incapacitated or something like that.
Cybargs
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Macbeth wrote:

A Kansas man faces life in prison after pleading guilty Wednesday to raping his 10-year-old stepdaughter and setting her on fire, local media reports.

Newberry faces at least 25 years in prison for rape and another 14 years for attempted murder, the Eagle reported.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/ar … wn784VNrwg
Why would nearly killing a person net you less time than raping someone? Both are harsh crimes but shouldn't the attempted murder be equal to or greater than the rape charge?
Child molestation bro. Harsher crime. But yeah why isn't murder higher though =/
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xBlackPantherx
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Hurricane2k9 wrote:

the real question is why the fucuk don't they jsut shoot him and be odne iwht it

christ 'wer e a nation of foucking pussies
I consider it a lot worse to rot in prison for the rest of your life than to be killed. To be honest, I think we put too much emphasis on death nowadays. That's getting off easy imo.

It's kind of like the murder vs rape debate. It's much less traumatic to suffer injury then to live with being raped for the rest of your life.
Dilbert_X
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consider it a lot worse to rot in prison for the rest of your life than to be killed.
Me too, another reason I don't support the death penalty - its too lenient.
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Cybargs
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Dilbert_X wrote:

consider it a lot worse to rot in prison for the rest of your life than to be killed.
Me too, another reason I don't support the death penalty - its too lenient.
Yeah especially if you raped a little girl. You will be fucked. Well rapists get fucked anyways. Literally.
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Dilbert_X
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Cybargs wrote:

Yeah especially if you raped a little girl. You will be fucked. Well rapists get fucked anyways. Literally.
I don't particularly agree with that, they might enjoy it, let them break rocks until the day they die.
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Hurricane2k9
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xBlackPantherx wrote:

Hurricane2k9 wrote:

the real question is why the fucuk don't they jsut shoot him and be odne iwht it

christ 'wer e a nation of foucking pussies
I consider it a lot worse to rot in prison for the rest of your life than to be killed. To be honest, I think we put too much emphasis on death nowadays. That's getting off easy imo.

It's kind of like the murder vs rape debate. It's much less traumatic to suffer injury then to live with being raped for the rest of your life.
39 years is hardly the "rest of your life" especially when they usually get let out early for "good behavior"

also, christ I type like shit when I'm drunk.
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Red Forman
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stupid question.  stop making threads.

ATTEMPTED.  l2dictionary
Stubbee
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Maybe the fact the girl is TEN might have influenced the number. Maybe 7 for rape and 7 for under age and 11 for quasi-incest or some variation thereof
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Cybargs
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Dilbert_X wrote:

Cybargs wrote:

Yeah especially if you raped a little girl. You will be fucked. Well rapists get fucked anyways. Literally.
I don't particularly agree with that, they might enjoy it, let them break rocks until the day they die.
Rapists are amongst the first to die in prison. Gangs don't really want to associate themselves with rapists, as they have sisters and maybe daughters too ya know.
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Jay
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xBlackPantherx wrote:

Hurricane2k9 wrote:

the real question is why the fucuk don't they jsut shoot him and be odne iwht it

christ 'wer e a nation of foucking pussies
I consider it a lot worse to rot in prison for the rest of your life than to be killed. To be honest, I think we put too much emphasis on death nowadays. That's getting off easy imo.

It's kind of like the murder vs rape debate. It's much less traumatic to suffer injury then to live with being raped for the rest of your life.
Yeah, it's a rough life being able to read books and watch cable tv for the rest of your life while not having to worry about working for your next meal.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
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Cybargs
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JohnG@lt wrote:

xBlackPantherx wrote:

Hurricane2k9 wrote:

the real question is why the fucuk don't they jsut shoot him and be odne iwht it

christ 'wer e a nation of foucking pussies
I consider it a lot worse to rot in prison for the rest of your life than to be killed. To be honest, I think we put too much emphasis on death nowadays. That's getting off easy imo.

It's kind of like the murder vs rape debate. It's much less traumatic to suffer injury then to live with being raped for the rest of your life.
Yeah, it's a rough life being able to read books and watch cable tv for the rest of your life while not having to worry about working for your next meal.
Raped and stabbings are included.
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mikkel
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24 years for rape is absurd. This was a particularly terrible, disgusting case of it, but 24 years? No way. The notion that rape should be punished harder than attempting to take another person's life is ridiculous as well. People should be arguing for attempted murder carrying the same sentence as murder in the first degree, not that it should be comparable to rape.

Knee-jerk, mob mentality legislation. Same as for paedophilia. Most of the sociopaths favouring it would be just as happy to see the convicted killed right away. Hooray for civilisation.
Jay
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mikkel wrote:

24 years for rape is absurd. This was a particularly terrible, disgusting case of it, but 24 years? No way. The notion that rape should be punished harder than attempting to take another person's life is ridiculous as well. People should be arguing for attempted murder carrying the same sentence as murder in the first degree, not that it should be comparable to rape.

Knee-jerk, mob mentality legislation. Same as for paedophilia. Most of the sociopaths favouring it would be just as happy to see the convicted killed right away. Hooray for civilisation.
You do understand that throughout human history that rape has been a capital offense, yes? 24 years is a light sentence. Guess you'll have to dream of getting laid another way.
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Hurricane2k9
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mikkel wrote:

24 years for rape is absurd. This was a particularly terrible, disgusting case of it, but 24 years? No way. The notion that rape should be punished harder than attempting to take another person's life is ridiculous as well. People should be arguing for attempted murder carrying the same sentence as murder in the first degree, not that it should be comparable to rape.

Knee-jerk, mob mentality legislation. Same as for paedophilia. Most of the sociopaths favouring it would be just as happy to see the convicted killed right away. Hooray for civilisation.
you're right
let's just give them 5 years and a medal of fucking freedom too
can't seem uncivilized can we
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