Last edited by lowing (2009-09-21 04:40:39)
Last edited by Spark (2009-09-21 04:41:03)
Nope, not when you go where the govt. says. and see who the govt. says. and the govt. deciding what procedures you will have and when. this my friend is controlSpark wrote:
Who said the government would be responsible for people's health?
The government would be responsible for providing healthCARE to those who want it. An important difference...
Last edited by lowing (2009-09-21 04:42:33)
Govt. not responsible enough togovern education effectively = govt not responsible enough to govern medical decisions effectivelyDilbert_X wrote:
Kids fail test -> Govt should not provide healthcare.
Wow.
Yupnlsme1 wrote:
Lowing, did you attend school in a public setting?
You would rather have a for-profit company making the decision for your doctor?lowing wrote:
Govt. not responsible enough togovern education effectively = govt not responsible enough to govern medical decisions effectivelyDilbert_X wrote:
Kids fail test -> Govt should not provide healthcare.
Wow.
Nope, I would rather have a for profit doctor making the decisions. Never said reform was not needed, I say the govt. is not the answernlsme1 wrote:
You would rather have a for-profit company making the decision for your doctor?lowing wrote:
Govt. not responsible enough togovern education effectively = govt not responsible enough to govern medical decisions effectivelyDilbert_X wrote:
Kids fail test -> Govt should not provide healthcare.
Wow.
Last edited by Locoloki (2009-09-21 04:56:27)
Well you have done allright, no?lowing wrote:
Yupnlsme1 wrote:
Lowing, did you attend school in a public setting?
Yup I have, I knew who the first president was back in first grade I think.nlsme1 wrote:
Well you have done allright, no?lowing wrote:
Yupnlsme1 wrote:
Lowing, did you attend school in a public setting?
Last edited by lowing (2009-09-21 04:58:36)
read upLocoloki wrote:
for god sakes man, they put george washington on the back of every dollar bill, what more do you want from them???
its poor parenting not poor governing
the government makes sure the kids get the proper books
the parents and teachers need to make sure the kids read those books
I think if you gave them a test on what they were actually told they would need to know like how to do maths and what not they would be mostly fine...lowing wrote:
Yup I have, I knew who the first president was back in first grade I think.nlsme1 wrote:
Well you have done allright, no?lowing wrote:
Yup
The issue here is, why are these kids allowed to progress to HS and graduation without know this shit? Everyone shares an equal stake in a students education, first the parents, then the students then the teachers.
So in your mind a person who has no idea who the first president was, can probably do geometry? See, to me, if you do not care enough to learn who the first president was, even by fuckin accident, you ain't gunna give a shit about much of anything else.Spark wrote:
I think if you gave them a test on what they were actually told they would need to know like how to do maths and what not they would be mostly fine...lowing wrote:
Yup I have, I knew who the first president was back in first grade I think.nlsme1 wrote:
Well you have done allright, no?
The issue here is, why are these kids allowed to progress to HS and graduation without know this shit? Everyone shares an equal stake in a students education, first the parents, then the students then the teachers.
Again, your "governments are utterly incompetent at every level" argument holds little water.
If Lowing is the type of people that government education is producing then I say take it away from the them. Let the private sector do it.lowing wrote:
Yupnlsme1 wrote:
Lowing, did you attend school in a public setting?
I had no idea who the first PM on Australia was until high school, and I really didn't care. I now know, but I still don't care, it's irrelevant information which doesn't effect me one little bit.lowing wrote:
So in your mind a person who has no idea who the first president was, can probably do geometry? See, to me, if you do not care enough to learn who the first president was, even by fuckin accident, you ain't gunna give a shit about much of anything else.Spark wrote:
I think if you gave them a test on what they were actually told they would need to know like how to do maths and what not they would be mostly fine...lowing wrote:
Yup I have, I knew who the first president was back in first grade I think.
The issue here is, why are these kids allowed to progress to HS and graduation without know this shit? Everyone shares an equal stake in a students education, first the parents, then the students then the teachers.
Again, your "governments are utterly incompetent at every level" argument holds little water.
and yes govt. is incompetent.
I see, so according to your logic if a kid fails a test then the govt shouldn't have armed forces since obviously they won't be able to organise or control them?lowing wrote:
Govt. not responsible enough togovern education effectively = govt not responsible enough to govern medical decisions effectively
Everyone should determine on their own what is irrelevant/useless for them to know.lowing wrote:
See, to me, if you do not care enough to learn who the first president was, even by fuckin accident, you ain't gunna give a shit about much of anything else.
