BF2S Forums Charles Darwin film 'too controversial for religious America

Dilbert_X wrote:

Just depends on if you are a literalist when it comes to the Bible...which the majority of Christians aren't.

So we're going with the bible is wrong - or not meant to be taken literally.

Pretty sure the astrophysicist didn't from instability to garden of eden in six days.

ghettoperson wrote:

PureFodder wrote:

Apparently the UK isn't far off in terms of not believing evolution.

The only person I have met that I know doesn't believe in evolution was a medical student, who I believe did well and is now a doctor.

As far as athiests being cosed minded with regard to a supreme being. It's based on their being no evidence for one. The closest anyone can get is lack of current understanding (ie. 'I don't understand how X works therefore God did it' type reasoning). If sensible evidence comes along then I'm sure most athiest will covert (and most religious people will have to as well). If I categorically state that goblins, the tooth fairy and Santa Clause don't exist just because there's no evidence that they exist am I being closed minded?

How is that even possible? The majority of the UK aren't even religious. Maybe it just means the majority of Brits are fucking stupid, and have never heard of evolution.

ghettoperson wrote:

Pug wrote:

Sounds like the movie sucks, which is why they don't want to show it.

Seriously....

...raise your hand if you want to see a movie about Charles Darwin.

This man makes a convincing argument. Unless Darwin had to defend Earth from aliens, or Nazi's or something like that. Preferably with a hot female sidekick.

ghettoperson wrote:

PureFodder wrote:

Apparently the UK isn't far off in terms of not believing evolution.

The only person I have met that I know doesn't believe in evolution was a medical student, who I believe did well and is now a doctor.

As far as athiests being cosed minded with regard to a supreme being. It's based on their being no evidence for one. The closest anyone can get is lack of current understanding (ie. 'I don't understand how X works therefore God did it' type reasoning). If sensible evidence comes along then I'm sure most athiest will covert (and most religious people will have to as well). If I categorically state that goblins, the tooth fairy and Santa Clause don't exist just because there's no evidence that they exist am I being closed minded?

How is that even possible? The majority of the UK aren't even religious. Maybe it just means the majority of Brits are fucking stupid, and have never heard of evolution.

Christian     42,079,000     71.6%
Not stated     4,289,000     7.3%
No religion     9,104,000     15.5%
Total religious     45,163,000     76.8%

Last edited by DrunkFace (2009-09-14 11:54:54)

DrunkFace wrote:

ghettoperson wrote:

PureFodder wrote:

Apparently the UK isn't far off in terms of not believing evolution.

The only person I have met that I know doesn't believe in evolution was a medical student, who I believe did well and is now a doctor.

As far as athiests being cosed minded with regard to a supreme being. It's based on their being no evidence for one. The closest anyone can get is lack of current understanding (ie. 'I don't understand how X works therefore God did it' type reasoning). If sensible evidence comes along then I'm sure most athiest will covert (and most religious people will have to as well). If I categorically state that goblins, the tooth fairy and Santa Clause don't exist just because there's no evidence that they exist am I being closed minded?

How is that even possible? The majority of the UK aren't even religious. Maybe it just means the majority of Brits are fucking stupid, and have never heard of evolution.

I think you'll find the majority are religious.

Christian     42,079,000     71.6%
Not stated     4,289,000     7.3%
No religion     9,104,000     15.5%
Total religious     45,163,000     76.8%

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demography … ed_Kingdom

PureFodder wrote:

DrunkFace wrote:

ghettoperson wrote:

How is that even possible? The majority of the UK aren't even religious. Maybe it just means the majority of Brits are fucking stupid, and have never heard of evolution.

I think you'll find the majority are religious.

Christian     42,079,000     71.6%
Not stated     4,289,000     7.3%
No religion     9,104,000     15.5%
Total religious     45,163,000     76.8%

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demography … ed_Kingdom

The UK has a vast proportion of People who when asked will say that they are religious but don't regularly go to church, pray, read Holy books or do anything to indicate that they actually believe in God in any real way.

FEOS wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

Just depends on if you are a literalist when it comes to the Bible...which the majority of Christians aren't.

So we're going with the bible is wrong - or not meant to be taken literally.

Pretty sure the astrophysicist didn't from instability to garden of eden in six days.

Not sure which key word is missing, but the astrophysicist's explanation involved the theory of relativity and the difference in perception of time from the point of the Big Bang and from Earth today. The math worked out to roughly 15B years = 6 days.

So, not necessarily wrong if this guy's analysis is even close to accurate.

Dilbert_X wrote:

IIRC Its down to compression of space time towards the singularity.
'Inside' the universe it seems to take billions of years.
'Outside' it could be over in six days.

A question is whether there is an 'outside' for god to sit in.

My point is by the time you get sufficiently decompressed for planets to form then 'inside' and 'outside' time are probably flowing at the ~ the same rate, so planet formation -> garden of eden is not going to fit the six day thing.
Singularity -> Formation of Hydrogen maybe.

Purefodder wrote:

Even with the wildest attempts at using dodgy extrapolations of relativity, the creation story is clearly not even approaching a sensible scientific theory.