Red Forman
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Kmarion wrote:

Do you know what the taxes are on a 4mil home?
no and i dont care.  i doubt it equals the amount spent for fire protection.  i mean if it did, cali wouldnt be begging for money right now from fema.

Last edited by Red Forman (2009-09-02 10:43:33)

Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6888|132 and Bush

Red Forman wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

Do you know what the taxes are on a 4mil home?
no and i dont care.  i doubt it equals the amount spent for fire protection.  i mean if it did, cali wouldnt be begging for money right now from fema.
Cali is begging for money for many reasons. Taxes and insurance are proportional to the property value.
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Red Forman
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Kmarion wrote:

Cali is begging for money for many reasons.
well aware
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6888|132 and Bush

Don't forget they also adopted Mexico.

lul
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S3v3N
lolwut?
+685|6805|Montucky

ATG wrote:

mcminty wrote:

To S3v3N or ATG: So as a follow up question to your reply to Spark - is there any back burning that is conducted in the off season to reduce the level of flammable material/undergrowth? A few weeks ago the Rural Fire Service (ie. the volunteer force) was conducting back burning in the "forrest" areas north of Sydney. It was rather hazy that day.. ><

Haha yeah Spark, we are fucked this year. I've heard that the AVERAGE summer temps will be hiiiigh 30's for Sydney.. and given the amount of rain we had earlier this year, combined with the absolute lack of rain now.. well.. joy.

Props to the firies, and keep safe S3v3N
That is not done much. Environmentalist protest when natural habitats are disturbed, nevermind the irony that we disturb things just by living and nature requires fire. Gross stupidity and mismanagement are the norms.
We have done numerous controlled burns in my district. It took over 3 years to compile data and get the go ahead from the higher ups.  We had to base the location on how many fires are in that location, etc etc.  So far this year, in that particular parcel of Forest we burned this spring, we've had ZERO fires, as there is no dry fuel anymore and now its absolutely beautiful there.
S3v3N
lolwut?
+685|6805|Montucky
Funny thing about WildLand Fire protection at least in my state...


County/City owned resources are to provide initial attack.  (volunteer fire departments, paid departments).  Initial Attack can be classified as sending one brush truck with 350 gallons of water at a 6,000 Acre Fire, but this is only for State Managed Lands, etc.  However if I'm called out to a fire with either the Helitac crews or Truck Crews on private land, The first 24 hours are free covered under Mutual Response.  If we're asked or need to stay for more than 24 hours on scene, we start to bill the local county government. (its especially not cheap using 2 Helitac crews)

The Area I work in is mostly Volunteer Fire departments (I'm on one of the departments). They'll show up, do what they can untill the "calvary" arrives.  We get paid for this job, they don't.
ATG
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Lol, big fires combined with the rumored big rains this winter will wreak havoc.
Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|6908|London, England
Well surely the big rains will cancel out the big fires and create, a pretty normal situation
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6888|132 and Bush

Winter= drier air.. no?
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ATG
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No. We get Santa Ana winds in October, and those are dry.

We have clay and slit as a soil for a large part, and land that does not absorb water well. The brush that is burning essentially holds the hillsides together.

You watch. There will many homes lost this winter.
DrunkFace
Germans did 911
+427|6968|Disaster Free Zone

Mekstizzle wrote:

Well surely the big rains will cancel out the big fires and create, a pretty normal situation
You burn the vegetation you lose the stability in the soil, so follow it with heavy rains and you get land slides and floods. fun fun.
Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|6908|London, England
I've never really heard of landslides and such in California, certainly nothing on a scale that's notable, and you guys have had fires like this and worse for years now. Also does it really rain that much in that area anyway, I dunno, you guys live there, I guess (ATG) ... and his business does sort of revolve around knowing how much rain there is...
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6888|132 and Bush

Mekstizzle wrote:

I've never really heard of landslides and such in California, certainly nothing on a scale that's notable, and you guys have had fires like this and worse for years now. Also does it really rain that much in that area anyway, I dunno, you guys live there, I guess (ATG) ... and his business does sort of revolve around knowing how much rain there is...
ATG should have started his biz here (Fl). Ya know.. subtropical rainforest..etc..
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S3v3N
lolwut?
+685|6805|Montucky

Kmarion wrote:

Mekstizzle wrote:

I've never really heard of landslides and such in California, certainly nothing on a scale that's notable, and you guys have had fires like this and worse for years now. Also does it really rain that much in that area anyway, I dunno, you guys live there, I guess (ATG) ... and his business does sort of revolve around knowing how much rain there is...
ATG should have started his biz here (Fl). Ya know.. subtropical rainforest..etc..
or be a Contract Firefighter.
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6816|Global Command

Mekstizzle wrote:

I've never really heard of landslides and such in California, certainly nothing on a scale that's notable, and you guys have had fires like this and worse for years now. Also does it really rain that much in that area anyway, I dunno, you guys live there, I guess (ATG) ... and his business does sort of revolve around knowing how much rain there is...
While we are in a current drought there can be monsoonal rains, which are predicted for this winter. Landslide kill more people here than fires, while fires destroy more homes.

The hills have been stripped, and if the rain comes, there will be carnage and loss of lives.

The ground here is sandy silt, it does not absorb water well and because of that the top layer becomes heavy goo. Combine that with people who build as if it doesn't rain and you have a recipe for disaster. There are also steep slopes surrounding all the populated areas.

The construction industry survivors feed on foreclosures, fires, earthquakes and mudslides.

Bring it on.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6888|132 and Bush

https://i37.tinypic.com/ff30vd.jpg
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ATG
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+5,233|6816|Global Command
A fire burned 160 acres to within 2 miles of my house today.
Better luck next time fire, you suck.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6888|132 and Bush

What's the air quality out there? We had some fires a couple years back that were of no comparison. I remember that air quality going to shiz..
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ATG
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It has been terrible for almost two months.
When the station fire was raging the Sun rose red and the Moon set orange.

Everything is seriously dry. I give props to the fire department as they are very skilled and brave. The Santa Ana winds are a different beast. Today starts the official season, and it is going to be a doozy for fires. The stage  is set for an epic fire season with parched hills, and because of the drought there really has been no end to last years fire season. When the winds blow the sickos light fires and there is nothing you can do but get out of the way.

There are thousands of homes that could burn at anytime around here, it's just the way it is.

And if we do get the El Nino this year there will be hell to pay with the mudslides.
=NHB=Shadow
hi
+322|6653|California
You can always come live up here where the cows roam and we grow lots of fruits and vegetables! but lots of smog, I can only see like 50 stars up in the sky rather then the hundreds you see in So Cal
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6816|Global Command
From my driveway this afternoon;

https://i36.tinypic.com/14nk2f5.jpg
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
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Betcha regret legalising gay marriage now eh?
Fuck Israel
Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|6962|Canberra, AUS
Fire season has just started here...

Time to clean out those gutters folks... this one'll be a bad one. I can feel it in my bones.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,817|6393|eXtreme to the maX
Reckon you're right.
Fuck Israel
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6888|132 and Bush

mcminty just posted some pics from a nasty dust storm..

I saw these earlier.. http://www.news.com.au/gallery/0,23607, … 0,00.html#
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