the govt. does not build roads, or anything else. It hire companies to do it. Companies that are oranized.Spark wrote:
Um... all those programs are government operated, government funded, government organised by legislation. I don't see what you're getting at here.lowing wrote:
3. Yes govt. funded. NOT govt. organized and operated. The fuckin' road work is govt. funded. that does not mean it is govt. runs it they take the lowest bidder.
And the govt doesn't do healthcare, it hires Doctors, Nurses you know people who can do healthcare.lowing wrote:
the govt. does not build roads, or anything else. It hire companies to do it. Companies that are oranized.
Fuck Israel
Did they make a machine to jack off in the mayo?Harmor wrote:
If you raise the minimum wage up too high it companies will innovate and replace low skilled job workers with robots (i.e. there's a completely automated McDonalds in Japan...).
Fuck Israel
Fantastic, then do it without raising my taxes. I pay enough. This is the issue. I should not be forced to pay for others healthcare.Dilbert_X wrote:
And the govt doesn't do healthcare, it hires Doctors, Nurses you know people who can do healthcare.lowing wrote:
the govt. does not build roads, or anything else. It hire companies to do it. Companies that are oranized.
I'm not talking about roads I'm talking about the programs I listed.lowing wrote:
the govt. does not build roads, or anything else. It hire companies to do it. Companies that are oranized.Spark wrote:
Um... all those programs are government operated, government funded, government organised by legislation. I don't see what you're getting at here.lowing wrote:
3. Yes govt. funded. NOT govt. organized and operated. The fuckin' road work is govt. funded. that does not mean it is govt. runs it they take the lowest bidder.
I don't see where you brought roads into this. That's not what I'm talking about.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
~ Richard Feynman
Or roads.lowing wrote:
Fantastic, then do it without raising my taxes. I pay enough. This is the issue. I should not be forced to pay for others healthcare.
I bet the govt paid for roads you haven't driven on.
Fuck Israel
In the US, the roads are generally paid for by state/local govts, so...not so much.Dilbert_X wrote:
Or roads.lowing wrote:
Fantastic, then do it without raising my taxes. I pay enough. This is the issue. I should not be forced to pay for others healthcare.
I bet the govt paid for roads you haven't driven on.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
Because they are not govt. operated or managed, Healthcare would be.Spark wrote:
I'm not talking about roads I'm talking about the programs I listed.lowing wrote:
the govt. does not build roads, or anything else. It hire companies to do it. Companies that are oranized.Spark wrote:
Um... all those programs are government operated, government funded, government organised by legislation. I don't see what you're getting at here.
I don't see where you brought roads into this. That's not what I'm talking about.
irrelevant. It is done with existing taxes, mostly at the state level anyway, and since I don't pay Iowa state tax....................Dilbert_X wrote:
Or roads.lowing wrote:
Fantastic, then do it without raising my taxes. I pay enough. This is the issue. I should not be forced to pay for others healthcare.
I bet the govt paid for roads you haven't driven on.
Republicans believe every day is the Fourth of July, but democrats believe every day is April 15.
brilliant. imma steal that for future use . . .Red Forman wrote:
Republicans believe every day is the Fourth of July, but democrats believe every day is April 15.
nah....regan said that me thinksburnzz wrote:
brilliant. imma steal that for future use . . .Red Forman wrote:
Republicans believe every day is the Fourth of July, but democrats believe every day is April 15.
Ah but I bet you drive through states you don't pay taxes in.lowing wrote:
irrelevant. It is done with existing taxes, mostly at the state level anyway, and since I don't pay Iowa state tax....................
So by using the roads you're leaching off someone elses tax-dollars.
Fuck Israel
bollocks. i just paid $10 thru PA, $15 thru ohio, $6.75 thru IN, and about $5 thru northern ILL. not to mention the tax I payed on fuel in the states with no toll, and those taxes go to the road. so....meh.Dilbert_X wrote:
Ah but I bet you drive through states you don't pay taxes in.lowing wrote:
irrelevant. It is done with existing taxes, mostly at the state level anyway, and since I don't pay Iowa state tax....................
So by using the roads you're leaching off someone elses tax-dollars.
Nope it is an agreement, they are free to drive on the roads I help pay for and I am free to drive on the roads they help pay for.Dilbert_X wrote:
Ah but I bet you drive through states you don't pay taxes in.lowing wrote:
irrelevant. It is done with existing taxes, mostly at the state level anyway, and since I don't pay Iowa state tax....................
So by using the roads you're leaching off someone elses tax-dollars.
as well as what ^^^^^^^^ he said
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/facepalmlowing wrote:
Because they are not govt. operated or managed, Healthcare would be.Spark wrote:
I'm not talking about roads I'm talking about the programs I listed.lowing wrote:
the govt. does not build roads, or anything else. It hire companies to do it. Companies that are oranized.
I don't see where you brought roads into this. That's not what I'm talking about.
Yes. Yes they are...
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
~ Richard Feynman
No Spark it is not. It is contracted. the govt. does not do the workSpark wrote:
/facepalmlowing wrote:
Because they are not govt. operated or managed, Healthcare would be.Spark wrote:
I'm not talking about roads I'm talking about the programs I listed.
I don't see where you brought roads into this. That's not what I'm talking about.
Yes. Yes they are...
I'm fairly sure the economic stimulus plan is government operated.lowing wrote:
No Spark it is not. It is contracted. the govt. does not do the workSpark wrote:
/facepalmlowing wrote:
Because they are not govt. operated or managed, Healthcare would be.
Yes. Yes they are...
I'm fairly sure the government doesn't get outside contractors to pay people an $8000 rebate.
I'm fairly sure no outside contractor wrote the Clean Air Act.
Hint I'm not talking about the fucking road.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
~ Richard Feynman
1. the fucked up stimulus is not a govt. program it is govt. stolenSpark wrote:
I'm fairly sure the economic stimulus plan is government operated.lowing wrote:
No Spark it is not. It is contracted. the govt. does not do the workSpark wrote:
/facepalm
Yes. Yes they are...
I'm fairly sure the government doesn't get outside contractors to pay people an $8000 rebate.
I'm fairly sure no outside contractor wrote the Clean Air Act.
Hint I'm not talking about the fucking road.
2. Again stealing money is about the only "program the govt. is good at.
3. the clean air act is not a govt operated program. It is a law is it not?
Still doesn't explain why the roads here are full of potholes and generally shit.FEOS wrote:
In the US, the roads are generally paid for by state/local govts, so...not so much.Dilbert_X wrote:
Or roads.lowing wrote:
Fantastic, then do it without raising my taxes. I pay enough. This is the issue. I should not be forced to pay for others healthcare.
I bet the govt paid for roads you haven't driven on.
Actually it does, poor townships cannot afford to maintain their roads, if it was run by the feds, all roads would get equal treatment. So like any shift from local > Federal government, it would be good for the poor and bad for the rich.13/f/taiwan wrote:
Still doesn't explain why the roads here are full of potholes and generally shit.FEOS wrote:
In the US, the roads are generally paid for by state/local govts, so...not so much.Dilbert_X wrote:
Or roads.
I bet the govt paid for roads you haven't driven on.
Better roads improve the whole infrastructure of an economy, I can't see how that is bad for the rich.Doctor Strangelove wrote:
Actually it does, poor townships cannot afford to maintain their roads, if it was run by the feds, all roads would get equal treatment. So like any shift from local > Federal government, it would be good for the poor and bad for the rich.13/f/taiwan wrote:
Still doesn't explain why the roads here are full of potholes and generally shit.FEOS wrote:
In the US, the roads are generally paid for by state/local govts, so...not so much.
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Did you even read the things I posted?lowing wrote:
1. the fucked up stimulus is not a govt. program it is govt. stolenSpark wrote:
I'm fairly sure the economic stimulus plan is government operated.lowing wrote:
No Spark it is not. It is contracted. the govt. does not do the work
I'm fairly sure the government doesn't get outside contractors to pay people an $8000 rebate.
I'm fairly sure no outside contractor wrote the Clean Air Act.
Hint I'm not talking about the fucking road.
2. Again stealing money is about the only "program the govt. is good at.
3. the clean air act is not a govt operated program. It is a law is it not?
The Australian stimulus program has been a resounding success. The solar panel rebate is a rebate.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
~ Richard Feynman
That is great, now if only I lived in Australia. Or Europe where the citizens are not ate up with entitlement and EXPECT life to be handed to them.Spark wrote:
Did you even read the things I posted?lowing wrote:
1. the fucked up stimulus is not a govt. program it is govt. stolenSpark wrote:
I'm fairly sure the economic stimulus plan is government operated.
I'm fairly sure the government doesn't get outside contractors to pay people an $8000 rebate.
I'm fairly sure no outside contractor wrote the Clean Air Act.
Hint I'm not talking about the fucking road.
2. Again stealing money is about the only "program the govt. is good at.
3. the clean air act is not a govt operated program. It is a law is it not?
The Australian stimulus program has been a resounding success. The solar panel rebate is a rebate.
Because in any Federal program, all beneficiaries receive equal treatment?Doctor Strangelove wrote:
Actually it does, poor townships cannot afford to maintain their roads, if it was run by the feds, all roads would get equal treatment. So like any shift from local > Federal government, it would be good for the poor and bad for the rich.13/f/taiwan wrote:
Still doesn't explain why the roads here are full of potholes and generally shit.FEOS wrote:
In the US, the roads are generally paid for by state/local govts, so...not so much.
What color is the sky on your world?
There is a Federally-funded road subsidy that goes to the states, and it is prioritized, so it is not equitable, thus disproving your argument.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular