lowing
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Spark wrote:

lowing wrote:

3. Yes govt. funded. NOT govt. organized and operated. The fuckin' road work is govt. funded. that does not mean it is govt. runs it they take the lowest bidder.
Um... all those programs are government operated, government funded, government organised by legislation. I don't see what you're getting at here.
the govt. does not build roads, or anything else. It hire companies to do it. Companies that are oranized.
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
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lowing wrote:

the govt. does not build roads, or anything else. It hire companies to do it. Companies that are oranized.
And the govt doesn't do healthcare, it hires Doctors, Nurses you know people who can do healthcare.
Fuck Israel
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
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Harmor wrote:

If you raise the minimum wage up too high it companies will innovate and replace low skilled job workers with robots (i.e. there's a completely automated McDonalds in Japan...).
Did they make a machine to jack off in the mayo?
Fuck Israel
lowing
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Dilbert_X wrote:

lowing wrote:

the govt. does not build roads, or anything else. It hire companies to do it. Companies that are oranized.
And the govt doesn't do healthcare, it hires Doctors, Nurses you know people who can do healthcare.
Fantastic, then do it without raising my taxes. I pay enough. This is the issue. I should not be forced to pay for others healthcare.
Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|6962|Canberra, AUS

lowing wrote:

Spark wrote:

lowing wrote:

3. Yes govt. funded. NOT govt. organized and operated. The fuckin' road work is govt. funded. that does not mean it is govt. runs it they take the lowest bidder.
Um... all those programs are government operated, government funded, government organised by legislation. I don't see what you're getting at here.
the govt. does not build roads, or anything else. It hire companies to do it. Companies that are oranized.
I'm not talking about roads I'm talking about the programs I listed.

I don't see where you brought roads into this. That's not what I'm talking about.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
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lowing wrote:

Fantastic, then do it without raising my taxes. I pay enough. This is the issue. I should not be forced to pay for others healthcare.
Or roads.
I bet the govt paid for roads you haven't driven on.
Fuck Israel
FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
+1,182|6698|'Murka

Dilbert_X wrote:

lowing wrote:

Fantastic, then do it without raising my taxes. I pay enough. This is the issue. I should not be forced to pay for others healthcare.
Or roads.
I bet the govt paid for roads you haven't driven on.
In the US, the roads are generally paid for by state/local govts, so...not so much.
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― Albert Einstein

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lowing
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Spark wrote:

lowing wrote:

Spark wrote:


Um... all those programs are government operated, government funded, government organised by legislation. I don't see what you're getting at here.
the govt. does not build roads, or anything else. It hire companies to do it. Companies that are oranized.
I'm not talking about roads I'm talking about the programs I listed.

I don't see where you brought roads into this. That's not what I'm talking about.
Because they are not govt. operated or managed, Healthcare would be.
lowing
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Dilbert_X wrote:

lowing wrote:

Fantastic, then do it without raising my taxes. I pay enough. This is the issue. I should not be forced to pay for others healthcare.
Or roads.
I bet the govt paid for roads you haven't driven on.
irrelevant. It is done with existing taxes, mostly at the state level anyway, and since I don't pay Iowa state tax....................
Red Forman
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Republicans believe every day is the Fourth of July, but democrats believe every day is April 15.
13urnzz
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Red Forman wrote:

Republicans believe every day is the Fourth of July, but democrats believe every day is April 15.
brilliant. imma steal that for future use . . .
Red Forman
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burnzz wrote:

Red Forman wrote:

Republicans believe every day is the Fourth of July, but democrats believe every day is April 15.
brilliant. imma steal that for future use . . .
nah....regan said that me thinks
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
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lowing wrote:

irrelevant. It is done with existing taxes, mostly at the state level anyway, and since I don't pay Iowa state tax....................
Ah but I bet you drive through states you don't pay taxes in.
So by using the roads you're leaching off someone elses tax-dollars.
Fuck Israel
Red Forman
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Dilbert_X wrote:

lowing wrote:

irrelevant. It is done with existing taxes, mostly at the state level anyway, and since I don't pay Iowa state tax....................
Ah but I bet you drive through states you don't pay taxes in.
So by using the roads you're leaching off someone elses tax-dollars.
bollocks.  i just paid $10 thru PA, $15 thru ohio, $6.75 thru IN, and about $5 thru northern ILL.  not to mention the tax I payed on fuel in the states with no toll, and those taxes go to the road.  so....meh.
lowing
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Dilbert_X wrote:

lowing wrote:

irrelevant. It is done with existing taxes, mostly at the state level anyway, and since I don't pay Iowa state tax....................
Ah but I bet you drive through states you don't pay taxes in.
So by using the roads you're leaching off someone elses tax-dollars.
Nope it is an agreement, they are free to drive on the roads I help pay for and I am free to drive on the roads they help pay for.

as well as what ^^^^^^^^ he said

Last edited by lowing (2009-10-15 07:54:17)

Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|6962|Canberra, AUS

lowing wrote:

Spark wrote:

lowing wrote:


the govt. does not build roads, or anything else. It hire companies to do it. Companies that are oranized.
I'm not talking about roads I'm talking about the programs I listed.

I don't see where you brought roads into this. That's not what I'm talking about.
Because they are not govt. operated or managed, Healthcare would be.
/facepalm

Yes. Yes they are...
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
lowing
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Spark wrote:

lowing wrote:

Spark wrote:


I'm not talking about roads I'm talking about the programs I listed.

I don't see where you brought roads into this. That's not what I'm talking about.
Because they are not govt. operated or managed, Healthcare would be.
/facepalm

Yes. Yes they are...
No Spark it is not. It is contracted. the govt. does not do the work
Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|6962|Canberra, AUS

lowing wrote:

Spark wrote:

lowing wrote:


Because they are not govt. operated or managed, Healthcare would be.
/facepalm

Yes. Yes they are...
No Spark it is not. It is contracted. the govt. does not do the work
I'm fairly sure the economic stimulus plan is government operated.

I'm fairly sure the government doesn't get outside contractors to pay people an $8000 rebate.

I'm fairly sure no outside contractor wrote the Clean Air Act.

Hint I'm not talking about the fucking road.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
lowing
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Spark wrote:

lowing wrote:

Spark wrote:


/facepalm

Yes. Yes they are...
No Spark it is not. It is contracted. the govt. does not do the work
I'm fairly sure the economic stimulus plan is government operated.

I'm fairly sure the government doesn't get outside contractors to pay people an $8000 rebate.

I'm fairly sure no outside contractor wrote the Clean Air Act.

Hint I'm not talking about the fucking road.
1. the fucked up stimulus is not a govt. program it is govt. stolen


2. Again stealing money is about the only "program the govt. is good at.


3. the clean air act is not a govt operated program. It is a law is it not?
13/f/taiwan
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FEOS wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

lowing wrote:

Fantastic, then do it without raising my taxes. I pay enough. This is the issue. I should not be forced to pay for others healthcare.
Or roads.
I bet the govt paid for roads you haven't driven on.
In the US, the roads are generally paid for by state/local govts, so...not so much.
Still doesn't explain why the roads here are full of potholes and generally shit.
Doctor Strangelove
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13/f/taiwan wrote:

FEOS wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:


Or roads.
I bet the govt paid for roads you haven't driven on.
In the US, the roads are generally paid for by state/local govts, so...not so much.
Still doesn't explain why the roads here are full of potholes and generally shit.
Actually it does, poor townships cannot afford to maintain their roads, if it was run by the feds, all roads would get equal treatment. So like any shift from local > Federal government, it would be good for the poor and bad for the rich.
AussieReaper
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Doctor Strangelove wrote:

13/f/taiwan wrote:

FEOS wrote:


In the US, the roads are generally paid for by state/local govts, so...not so much.
Still doesn't explain why the roads here are full of potholes and generally shit.
Actually it does, poor townships cannot afford to maintain their roads, if it was run by the feds, all roads would get equal treatment. So like any shift from local > Federal government, it would be good for the poor and bad for the rich.
Better roads improve the whole infrastructure of an economy, I can't see how that is bad for the rich.
https://i.imgur.com/maVpUMN.png
Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|6962|Canberra, AUS

lowing wrote:

Spark wrote:

lowing wrote:


No Spark it is not. It is contracted. the govt. does not do the work
I'm fairly sure the economic stimulus plan is government operated.

I'm fairly sure the government doesn't get outside contractors to pay people an $8000 rebate.

I'm fairly sure no outside contractor wrote the Clean Air Act.

Hint I'm not talking about the fucking road.
1. the fucked up stimulus is not a govt. program it is govt. stolen


2. Again stealing money is about the only "program the govt. is good at.


3. the clean air act is not a govt operated program. It is a law is it not?
Did you even read the things I posted?

The Australian stimulus program has been a resounding success. The solar panel rebate is a rebate.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
lowing
Banned
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Spark wrote:

lowing wrote:

Spark wrote:


I'm fairly sure the economic stimulus plan is government operated.

I'm fairly sure the government doesn't get outside contractors to pay people an $8000 rebate.

I'm fairly sure no outside contractor wrote the Clean Air Act.

Hint I'm not talking about the fucking road.
1. the fucked up stimulus is not a govt. program it is govt. stolen


2. Again stealing money is about the only "program the govt. is good at.


3. the clean air act is not a govt operated program. It is a law is it not?
Did you even read the things I posted?

The Australian stimulus program has been a resounding success. The solar panel rebate is a rebate.
That is great, now if only I lived in Australia. Or Europe where the citizens are not ate up with entitlement and EXPECT life to be handed to them.
FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
+1,182|6698|'Murka

Doctor Strangelove wrote:

13/f/taiwan wrote:

FEOS wrote:


In the US, the roads are generally paid for by state/local govts, so...not so much.
Still doesn't explain why the roads here are full of potholes and generally shit.
Actually it does, poor townships cannot afford to maintain their roads, if it was run by the feds, all roads would get equal treatment. So like any shift from local > Federal government, it would be good for the poor and bad for the rich.
Because in any Federal program, all beneficiaries receive equal treatment?

What color is the sky on your world?

There is a Federally-funded road subsidy that goes to the states, and it is prioritized, so it is not equitable, thus disproving your argument.
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― Albert Einstein

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