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State laws govern the possession and use of firearms in Australia. These laws were largely aligned under the 1996 National Agreement on Firearms. Anyone wishing to possess or use a firearm must have a Firearms Licence and, with some exceptions, be over the age of 18. Owners must have secure storage for their firearms.

Before someone can buy a firearm, he or she must obtain a Permit To Acquire. The first permit has a mandatory 28 day delay before it is first issued. In some states (e.g. Queensland, Victoria, and New South Wales), this is waived for second and subsequent firearms of the same class. For each firearm a "Genuine Reason" must be given, relating to pest control, hunting, target shooting, or collecting. Self-defence is not accepted as a reason for issuing a licence, though it may be legal under certain circumstances to use a legally-held firearm for self-defence. [3]

Each firearm in Australia must be registered to the owner by serial number. Some states allow an owner to store or borrow another person's registered firearm of the same category.


[edit] Firearms categories
Firearms in Australia are grouped into Categories with different levels of control. The categories are:

Category A: rimfire rifle (not semi-automatic), shotguns (not pump-action or semi-automatic), air rifles, and paintball markers.
Category B: centrefire rifles (not semi-automatic), muzzleloading firearms made after 1 January 1901.
Category C: semi-automatic rimfire rifles holding 10 or fewer rounds and pump-action or semi-automatic shotguns holding 5 or fewer rounds. (Restricted: only primary producers, occupational shooters, collectors and professional sporting shooters can own functional Category C firearms)
Category D: semi-automatic centrefire rifles, pump-action/semi-automatic shotguns holding more than 5 rounds (functional Category D firearms are restricted to occupational shooters; collectors may own deactivated Category D firearms).[2]
Category H: handguns including air pistols, deactivated handguns and guns less than 65 cm long. Target shooters are limited to handguns of .38 calibre or less.
(Participants in "approved" competitions may acquire handguns up to .45", currently Single Action Shooting and Metallic Silhouette. IPSC shooting is not "approved" for the larger calibres, for unstated reasons. Category H barrels must be at least 100 mm (3.94") long for revolvers, and 120 mm (4.72") for semi-automatic pistols, and magazines are restricted to 10 rounds. Handgun collectors are exempt from the laws stated above.)

Category R/E: restricted weapons: machine guns, rocket launchers, assault rifles, flame-throwers, anti-tank guns, Howitzers, artillery, .50-calibre BMG weapons, etc. (Collectors in some states only, weapons must be comprehensively deactivated. Deactivated firearms are still subject to the same storage and licensing requirements as 'live' firearms in many states.)
Antique firearms can in some states be legally bought without licences. In other states they are subject to the same requirements as modern firearms.

All single-shot muzzleloading firearms manufactured before 1 January 1901 are considered antique firearms. Four states require licences for antique percussion revolvers and cartridge repeating firearms but in Queensland and Victoria a person may possess such a firearm without a license, so long as the firearm is registered.

Australia also has tight restrictions on air pistols, airsoft guns, and replica firearms. Suppressors (or 'silencers') are extremely restricted and generally not available to most shooters.

Last edited by Red Forman (2009-08-15 07:18:11)

Red Forman wrote:

State laws govern the possession and use of firearms in Australia. These laws were largely aligned under the 1996 National Agreement on Firearms. Anyone wishing to possess or use a firearm must have a Firearms Licence and, with some exceptions, be over the age of 18. Owners must have secure storage for their firearms.

Before someone can buy a firearm, he or she must obtain a Permit To Acquire. The first permit has a mandatory 28 day delay before it is first issued. In some states (e.g. Queensland, Victoria, and New South Wales), this is waived for second and subsequent firearms of the same class. For each firearm a "Genuine Reason" must be given, relating to pest control, hunting, target shooting, or collecting. Self-defence is not accepted as a reason for issuing a licence, though it may be legal under certain circumstances to use a legally-held firearm for self-defence. [3]

Each firearm in Australia must be registered to the owner by serial number. Some states allow an owner to store or borrow another person's registered firearm of the same category.


[edit] Firearms categories
Firearms in Australia are grouped into Categories with different levels of control. The categories are:

Category A: rimfire rifle (not semi-automatic), shotguns (not pump-action or semi-automatic), air rifles, and paintball markers.
Category B: centrefire rifles (not semi-automatic), muzzleloading firearms made after 1 January 1901.
Category C: semi-automatic rimfire rifles holding 10 or fewer rounds and pump-action or semi-automatic shotguns holding 5 or fewer rounds. (Restricted: only primary producers, occupational shooters, collectors and professional sporting shooters can own functional Category C firearms)
Category D: semi-automatic centrefire rifles, pump-action/semi-automatic shotguns holding more than 5 rounds (functional Category D firearms are restricted to occupational shooters; collectors may own deactivated Category D firearms).[2]
Category H: handguns including air pistols, deactivated handguns and guns less than 65 cm long. Target shooters are limited to handguns of .38 calibre or less.
(Participants in "approved" competitions may acquire handguns up to .45", currently Single Action Shooting and Metallic Silhouette. IPSC shooting is not "approved" for the larger calibres, for unstated reasons. Category H barrels must be at least 100 mm (3.94") long for revolvers, and 120 mm (4.72") for semi-automatic pistols, and magazines are restricted to 10 rounds. Handgun collectors are exempt from the laws stated above.)

Category R/E: restricted weapons: machine guns, rocket launchers, assault rifles, flame-throwers, anti-tank guns, Howitzers, artillery, .50-calibre BMG weapons, etc. (Collectors in some states only, weapons must be comprehensively deactivated. Deactivated firearms are still subject to the same storage and licensing requirements as 'live' firearms in many states.)
Antique firearms can in some states be legally bought without licences. In other states they are subject to the same requirements as modern firearms.

All single-shot muzzleloading firearms manufactured before 1 January 1901 are considered antique firearms. Four states require licences for antique percussion revolvers and cartridge repeating firearms but in Queensland and Victoria a person may possess such a firearm without a license, so long as the firearm is registered.

Australia also has tight restrictions on air pistols, airsoft guns, and replica firearms. Suppressors (or 'silencers') are extremely restricted and generally not available to most shooters.

I would be very happy if those were implemented in the US

Narupug wrote:

Red Forman wrote:

State laws govern the possession and use of firearms in Australia. These laws were largely aligned under the 1996 National Agreement on Firearms. Anyone wishing to possess or use a firearm must have a Firearms Licence and, with some exceptions, be over the age of 18. Owners must have secure storage for their firearms.

Before someone can buy a firearm, he or she must obtain a Permit To Acquire. The first permit has a mandatory 28 day delay before it is first issued. In some states (e.g. Queensland, Victoria, and New South Wales), this is waived for second and subsequent firearms of the same class. For each firearm a "Genuine Reason" must be given, relating to pest control, hunting, target shooting, or collecting. Self-defence is not accepted as a reason for issuing a licence, though it may be legal under certain circumstances to use a legally-held firearm for self-defence. [3]

Each firearm in Australia must be registered to the owner by serial number. Some states allow an owner to store or borrow another person's registered firearm of the same category.


[edit] Firearms categories
Firearms in Australia are grouped into Categories with different levels of control. The categories are:

Category A: rimfire rifle (not semi-automatic), shotguns (not pump-action or semi-automatic), air rifles, and paintball markers.
Category B: centrefire rifles (not semi-automatic), muzzleloading firearms made after 1 January 1901.
Category C: semi-automatic rimfire rifles holding 10 or fewer rounds and pump-action or semi-automatic shotguns holding 5 or fewer rounds. (Restricted: only primary producers, occupational shooters, collectors and professional sporting shooters can own functional Category C firearms)
Category D: semi-automatic centrefire rifles, pump-action/semi-automatic shotguns holding more than 5 rounds (functional Category D firearms are restricted to occupational shooters; collectors may own deactivated Category D firearms).[2]
Category H: handguns including air pistols, deactivated handguns and guns less than 65 cm long. Target shooters are limited to handguns of .38 calibre or less.
(Participants in "approved" competitions may acquire handguns up to .45", currently Single Action Shooting and Metallic Silhouette. IPSC shooting is not "approved" for the larger calibres, for unstated reasons. Category H barrels must be at least 100 mm (3.94") long for revolvers, and 120 mm (4.72") for semi-automatic pistols, and magazines are restricted to 10 rounds. Handgun collectors are exempt from the laws stated above.)

Category R/E: restricted weapons: machine guns, rocket launchers, assault rifles, flame-throwers, anti-tank guns, Howitzers, artillery, .50-calibre BMG weapons, etc. (Collectors in some states only, weapons must be comprehensively deactivated. Deactivated firearms are still subject to the same storage and licensing requirements as 'live' firearms in many states.)
Antique firearms can in some states be legally bought without licences. In other states they are subject to the same requirements as modern firearms.

All single-shot muzzleloading firearms manufactured before 1 January 1901 are considered antique firearms. Four states require licences for antique percussion revolvers and cartridge repeating firearms but in Queensland and Victoria a person may possess such a firearm without a license, so long as the firearm is registered.

Australia also has tight restrictions on air pistols, airsoft guns, and replica firearms. Suppressors (or 'silencers') are extremely restricted and generally not available to most shooters.

I would be very happy if those were implemented in the US

Why? Is keeping guns away from law abiding citizens that already obey the law, while the criminal element stays armed, gunna make you safer?

Jonah Goldberg is married to Jessica Gavora, former chief speechwriter and a senior policy adviser to former Attorney General John Ashcroft

lol

Stingray24 wrote:

Thanks for the info, but I can't agree.  I'm a law abiding citizen of the US with no criminal record, that's all the license I should need for something that's not fully automatic.  The requirement to be 18 would have meant missing out on a lot of fun plinking w/ my bb gun as a little guy and hunting and target shooting from age 12-18.

This is Australia, there is some leeway on laws like this. I'm fairly sure that no police officer will charge a parent for letting their son have a go at their rifle on a private property (read: farm). Common sense prevails in almost all cases - especially in the bush.

NB. This does present a problem though as hunting is not exactly a big thing in this country - the only animal that I can think of that would be suitable for hunting (i.e. big enough + common enough) is the kangaroo, and not too many people will take too kindly to shooting kangaroos for fun.

NBB. Although there is provision for hunting. I'm just saying it's not as big as it is in America.

Last edited by Spark (2009-08-15 19:34:17)

Spark wrote:

Stingray24 wrote:

Thanks for the info, but I can't agree.  I'm a law abiding citizen of the US with no criminal record, that's all the license I should need for something that's not fully automatic.  The requirement to be 18 would have meant missing out on a lot of fun plinking w/ my bb gun as a little guy and hunting and target shooting from age 12-18.

This is Australia, there is some leeway on laws like this. I'm fairly sure that no police officer will charge a parent for letting their son have a go at their rifle on a private property (read: farm). Common sense prevails in almost all cases - especially in the bush.

NB. This does present a problem though as hunting is not exactly a big thing in this country - the only animal that I can think of that would be suitable for hunting (i.e. big enough + common enough) is the kangaroo, and not too many people will take too kindly to shooting kangaroos for fun.

NBB. Although there is provision for hunting. I'm just saying it's not as big as it is in America.

Must you write in bold?

Spark wrote:

Narupug wrote:

Spark wrote:

This is Australia, there is some leeway on laws like this. I'm fairly sure that no police officer will charge a parent for letting their son have a go at their rifle on a private property (read: farm). Common sense prevails in almost all cases - especially in the bush.

NB. This does present a problem though as hunting is not exactly a big thing in this country - the only animal that I can think of that would be suitable for hunting (i.e. big enough + common enough) is the kangaroo, and not too many people will take too kindly to shooting kangaroos for fun.

NBB. Although there is provision for hunting. I'm just saying it's not as big as it is in America.

Must you write in bold?

New to DST?

Your signature huh?  It hurts my eyes.

Narupug wrote:

Must you write in bold?

odd isn't it that one would go thru the extra trouble for every post.

Spark wrote:

I think you missed the point of that post entiiiiiiiiirely.[/b]

i'm new to DAST. ask lowing. Militia's are buying land up north - the fuckers are asking us to engineer roads for 'em that can't be seen by airplane.

Spark wrote:

Stingray24 wrote:

Thanks for the info, but I can't agree.  I'm a law abiding citizen of the US with no criminal record, that's all the license I should need for something that's not fully automatic.  The requirement to be 18 would have meant missing out on a lot of fun plinking w/ my bb gun as a little guy and hunting and target shooting from age 12-18.

This is Australia, there is some leeway on laws like this. I'm fairly sure that no police officer will charge a parent for letting their son have a go at their rifle on a private property (read: farm). Common sense prevails in almost all cases - especially in the bush.

NB. This does present a problem though as hunting is not exactly a big thing in this country - the only animal that I can think of that would be suitable for hunting (i.e. big enough + common enough) is the kangaroo, and not too many people will take too kindly to shooting kangaroos for fun.

NBB. Although there is provision for hunting. I'm just saying it's not as big as it is in America.

While under 18, you can never buy or own a firearm. But you can get a minors permit which allows you to use your parents firearm while under supervision.

Who can apply for a Minor's Permit?
The applicant must be aged between 12 and 18 years of age and the permit will be issued subject to the consent of your parent or legal guardian.

What does a Minor's Permit authorise?
This permit authorises the minor to possess and use firearms under the personal supervision of a valid firearms licence holder for the purpose of receiving instruction in the safe use of firearms or competing in shooting events.
This permit does not authorise the acquisition of firearms.

What type of minor's permits are available?
There are 2 types of permits available:
1. A minor's firearms training permit category A, B or C - authorising the possession and use of longarms; or
2. A minor's target pistol permit category H - authorising the possession and use of pistols.

http://www.police.nsw.gov.au/__data/ass … minors.pdf
Note: NSW specific, though I would assume most other states have similar laws.

RAIMIUS wrote:

No. I think I'll keep my .45 pistol, my .223 rifle, and yes, I would like to own a pump-action shotgun!

Isn't it nice that Australia doesn't trust its citizens with arms for self-defense.  Do your police teleport themselves instantly to the scene of a crime, or did your government screw you out of a reasonable chance to defend yourself?

In Australia we don't believe that you need a gun for self defence.

Besides, ABS says gun-related homocides as a percentage have dropped in the past ten years. Plus those laws were passed after astonishing public pressure.

This country works differently.

Last edited by Spark (2009-08-16 00:36:34)

lowing wrote:

Spark wrote:

RAIMIUS wrote:

No. I think I'll keep my .45 pistol, my .223 rifle, and yes, I would like to own a pump-action shotgun!

Isn't it nice that Australia doesn't trust its citizens with arms for self-defense.  Do your police teleport themselves instantly to the scene of a crime, or did your government screw you out of a reasonable chance to defend yourself?

In Australia we don't believe that you need a gun for self defence.

Besides, ABS says gun-related homocides as a percentage have dropped in the past ten years. Plus those laws were passed after astonishing public pressure.

This country works differently.

Well if you admit that your country works differently, I would suggest that you all stop telling us that we need to adopt a system that does not work for us.

I thought I did that a long time ago.

I just commented because the Australian laws were brought up.

lowing wrote:

Spark wrote:

lowing wrote:

Well if you admit that your country works differently, I would suggest that you all stop telling us that we need to adopt a system that does not work for us.

I thought I did that a long time ago.

I just commented because the Australian laws were brought up.

I re-read what I posted and I agree it sounds like I was speaking to you directly, but really I was addressing the thread. It is why I said "you all"

Sorry about that, it was a little to subtle, obviously.

All good.