BF2S Forums Officials See Rise in Militia Groups Across U.S.

Narupug wrote:

Macbeth wrote:

Narupug wrote:

Isn't that the problem they have with it?

Yeah that is what I really don't get why they would oppose it in that case.

Um I think it's because they are afraid of any changes/afraid of Mexicans

Many are probably worried about losing sovereignty over certain issues...like gun rights.

Macbeth wrote:

Narupug wrote:

Macbeth wrote:

Yeah that is what I really don't get why they would oppose it in that case.

Um I think it's because they are afraid of any changes/afraid of Mexicans

Paranoid you say?

Yep, also see above post about guns

Macbeth wrote:

ATG wrote:

!) gun control, Waco and Ruby Ridge type incidents
2) Nafta, Gatt and Illegal Immigration
3) A North American Union, common currency,
4) International police having juristiction on American soil.
5) jews, bankers and lawyers

I don't see how the third one would be so bad. Let's face it, An NAU would be U.S. dominated and common currency between the NAU would give our currency more stability. Would also help solve that illegal immigration problem.

I don't see how the fourth one is bad, and while maybe some of number 2 is bad, I don't know what guns and shit would have anything to do about that.

Also Waco, if anything, is a reason not to stock-pile guns. I mean for serious, those idiot thought it would be a good idea to stockpile explosives, and then when the Feds arrived because they were doing the totally law-abiding thing of having buttsecks with underage girls, thought it would be a good (and legal) idea to shoot at aforementioned feds. And then when the feds returned fire (because obviously, they should have just let themselves get shot at) the bullets ignite the fuel the place was packed with and thus making them bad-guys.

But then again child-rape is awwwwwwwwwwwwwright so they had no reason to be there in the first place.

Varegg wrote:

Seen this coming for quite some time and tbh it's more than a little alarming ... an armed uprising is the last you guys need now, it would definitely leave one of the greatest nations in ruins ...

But then again it's one of your constitutional rights I guess ...

Well since what the militants are saying is pretty much true, it stands to reason that those that love this country are eventually going to have to take it back form those that see fit to do nothing but exploit it. I am not convinced however that the vaat majority of them give a shit if he is black or not. THey are fed up with his ideology.

lowing wrote:

I am not convinced however that the vaat majority of them give a shit if he is black or not. THey are fed up with his ideology.

how'd he get voted in, w/o this "vaat" majority?

Deadmonkiefart wrote:

Please don't post on D&ST when you are drunk.

Narupug wrote:

lowing wrote:

Varegg wrote:

Seen this coming for quite some time and tbh it's more than a little alarming ... an armed uprising is the last you guys need now, it would definitely leave one of the greatest nations in ruins ...

But then again it's one of your constitutional rights I guess ...

Well since what the militants are saying is pretty much true, it stands to reason that those that love this country are eventually going to have to take it back form those that see fit to do nothing but exploit it. I am not convinced however that the vaat majority of them give a shit if he is black or not. THey are fed up with his ideology.

Lowing? You do realize you guys will just loose again anyway right?

Can't say as I do realize that.

Also, I am torn as to who was right during the second war for independence. I call it that since it was NOT a civil war BY definition. There were 2 countries, 2 govts., and 2 armies, and distinct borders. It was a war for independence from a tyrannical ( their POV) federal govt.

Last edited by lowing (2009-08-12 19:56:21)

Macbeth wrote:

Narupug wrote:

lowing wrote:

Well since what the militants are saying is pretty much true, it stands to reason that those that love this country are eventually going to have to take it back form those that see fit to do nothing but exploit it. I am not convinced however that the vaat majority of them give a shit if he is black or not. THey are fed up with his ideology.

Lowing? You do realize you guys will just loose again anyway right?

Do you mean a civil war? Um there wouldn't even be a civil war. For these militias to get to civil war stage they will need members of congress and other high ranking government officials to join them in rebellion and all the government officials know how the civil war ended and what happened to the leaders and how their quality of life would evaporate if they launched a rebellion and even managed to win.

The most that could come of this, is maybe a Oklahoma City type thing or maybe a few shootings here and there both of which would make public support for said groups diminish.

Well assuming by some miracle they do get that far.

Macbeth wrote:

lowing wrote:

Macbeth wrote:

Do you mean a civil war? Um there wouldn't even be a civil war. For these militias to get to civil war stage they will need members of congress and other high ranking government officials to join them in rebellion and all the government officials know how the civil war ended and what happened to the leaders and how their quality of life would evaporate if they launched a rebellion and even managed to win.

The most that could come of this, is maybe a Oklahoma City type thing or maybe a few shootings here and there both of which would make public support for said groups diminish.

Well lets see, when France revolted it was the the govt. officials, and NOT the peasants walking to the guillotine, so precedence has IN FACT been set for such upheavals.

Not sure but I do not think the Russian revolution turned out to well for the established govt. either.

Those were different times under vastly different circumstances. We're not in the middle of a famine or freezing to death.

The people who are under those circumstances aren't revolting

Macbeth wrote:

lowing wrote:

Macbeth wrote:

Do you mean a civil war? Um there wouldn't even be a civil war. For these militias to get to civil war stage they will need members of congress and other high ranking government officials to join them in rebellion and all the government officials know how the civil war ended and what happened to the leaders and how their quality of life would evaporate if they launched a rebellion and even managed to win.

The most that could come of this, is maybe a Oklahoma City type thing or maybe a few shootings here and there both of which would make public support for said groups diminish.

Well lets see, when France revolted it was the the govt. officials, and NOT the peasants walking to the guillotine, so precedence has IN FACT been set for such upheavals.

Not sure but I do not think the Russian revolution turned out to well for the established govt. either.

Those were different times under vastly different circumstances. We're not in the middle of a famine or freezing to death.

Beside that I could post forever about various failed revolutions.

Our govt. is viewed as tyrannical now and our freedoms that our ensured by our constitutiuon are in jeopordy, Americans do not need to be in a famine to need areason to revolt.

Also, you are correct, many revolts have been put down, but I would not be so quick to underestimate a mass of, pissed the fuck off, Americans

Narupug wrote:

lowing wrote:

Macbeth wrote:

Those were different times under vastly different circumstances. We're not in the middle of a famine or freezing to death.

Beside that I could post forever about various failed revolutions.

Our govt. is viewed as tyrannical now and our freedoms that our ensured by our constitutiuon are in jeopordy, Americans do not need to be in a famine to need areason to revolt.

Also, you are correct, many revolts have been put down, but I would not be so quick to underestimate a mass of, pissed the fuck off, Americans

Define mass...
are we talking 1,000 or 10,000 here

I have no idea, how many people were there that started the momentum that led to the second war for independence in America?

lowing wrote:

Narupug wrote:

lowing wrote:

Our govt. is viewed as tyrannical now and our freedoms that our ensured by our constitutiuon are in jeopordy, Americans do not need to be in a famine to need areason to revolt.

Also, you are correct, many revolts have been put down, but I would not be so quick to underestimate a mass of, pissed the fuck off, Americans

Define mass...
are we talking 1,000 or 10,000 here

I have no idea, how many people were there that started the momentum that led to the second war for independence in America?

Um if you are worried about National Debt now, you should have been around for after the revolution happened and how they were shitting themselves over how to pay down all the cash they owed.

lowing wrote:

Narupug wrote:

lowing wrote:

Our govt. is viewed as tyrannical now and our freedoms that our ensured by our constitutiuon are in jeopordy, Americans do not need to be in a famine to need areason to revolt.

Also, you are correct, many revolts have been put down, but I would not be so quick to underestimate a mass of, pissed the fuck off, Americans

Define mass...
are we talking 1,000 or 10,000 here

I have no idea, how many people were there that started the momentum that led to the second war for independence in America?

1 mill max against what like 329 million? I think the outcome is obvious

lowing wrote:

Narupug wrote:

Macbeth wrote:

Those were different times under vastly different circumstances. We're not in the middle of a famine or freezing to death.

The people who are under those circumstances aren't revolting

This is correct,

it is the people that are forced to work harder and have their money stolen by a govt. hell bent on civil servitude that will revolt.

Yeah I agree with you lowing.

Fuck taxes, you can take your Police, roads, tap-water, electricity, judicial system and Fire brigade and shove it! Real Americans^tm don't need that shit.