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What the fuck is going on man. Why is it so hard, with a supermajority, why is it so hard to get the straight dope?
Because the "straight dope" goes against freedom and toward govt. control. This is why everything liberal MUST be a deception that feeds the sheepleRed Forman wrote:
What the fuck is going on man. Why is it so hard, with a supermajority, why is it so hard to get the straight dope?
This is enough to show you don't understand much. Think about it, how much do un-employment figures lag behind what is actually happening. Buisnesses have to have already pulled them selves back up and gotten on steady foot, THEN build up confidence that things will remain good. At that point they have to decide to hire, work out where they most need people, get the word out, schedule and execute preliminary interviews, hold second round interviews, schedule when the new workers can actually start... After all that is done there is still more time while the numbers get updated... Weekly unemployment claims however are down.Catbox wrote:
Have you checked the unemployment figures Mr President?
Thats because one is entertainment, the other is drab and educational. No matter who is talking how many common people really tune in to random speeches from the pres other then the MAJOR ones.Your popularity is falling daily... repeats of CSI get higher ratings than your primetime specials...
CARS definitely had a shaky run and there is plenty to complain about... BUT ford is reporting their highest numbers in years and many many dealerships are selling in a day what they used to in a month. Its pumped a huge amount of money through the economy and at least for now given things a good kick. Yes, they are looking for another 2 billion... But you do realize the original budget was supposed to be 4 right? That means even if the bill for 2 billion passes they will be 1 billion UNDER what was originally proposed.Oh yeah... Cash for Clunkers... It ran out of money in 4 days... Now they just added 2 billion more dollars of our tax money...
That's 2 billion over budget in 1 week... Govt run healthcare should be a breeze...
Still don't like the idea of giving more tax money out that isn't there. 3 or 4 bil.VicktorVauhn wrote:
But you do realize the original budget was supposed to be 4 right? That means even if the bill for 2 billion passes they will be 1 billion UNDER what was originally proposed.Catbox wrote:
Have you checked the unemployment figures Mr President?
Wait after the economic storm passes will there be an economic drought?!
Rescuing the world/america out of the former regimes blind incompetence was never going to be an easy fix. History will show that a credit crunch only comparable to an economic shit storm won't be fixed within a matter of months. Give it time, give him time. Patience is a virtue.
I don't understand. Aren't the majority of Americans in support of free health care? because now's the only realistic shot any administration will have at creating one.
I don't understand. Aren't the majority of Americans in support of free health care? because now's the only realistic shot any administration will have at creating one.
This is reminds me.. when Obama says I inherited a 1.3 trillion dollar debt.. can someone please remind him that he also voted for 700 billion of that?..teddy..jimmy wrote:
Rescuing the world/america out of the former regimes blind incompetence was never going to be an easy fix.
lol, Rescue.
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700 is small potatoes.Kmarion wrote:
This is reminds me.. when Obama says I inherited a 1.3 trillion dollar debt.. can someone please remind him that he also voted for 700 billion of that?..teddy..jimmy wrote:
Rescuing the world/america out of the former regimes blind incompetence was never going to be an easy fix.
lol, Rescue.
It's a single vote that amounted for half of what he is talking about. Apply it to the context of what he was speaking of.Red Forman wrote:
700 is small potatoes.Kmarion wrote:
This is reminds me.. when Obama says I inherited a 1.3 trillion dollar debt.. can someone please remind him that he also voted for 700 billion of that?..teddy..jimmy wrote:
Rescuing the world/america out of the former regimes blind incompetence was never going to be an easy fix.
lol, Rescue.
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Was being facetious
Some people aren't. Surely you can understand my confusion.Red Forman wrote:
Was being facetious
Xbone Stormsurgezz
Aye.Kmarion wrote:
Some people aren't. Surely you can understand my confusion.Red Forman wrote:
Was being facetious
No offense but you have no clue what a joke the cash for clunkers program is(was).... 20,000 dealers equals about 12-13 cars for each dealer to sell and the 1 billion dollard is gone... in 4 days... What do the car dealers do next week? Ask for another 1-2 billion a week...VicktorVauhn wrote:
Catbox wrote:
Have you checked the unemployment figures Mr President?Glad you have it all figured out...call the President and let him now.This is enough to show you don't understand much. Think about it, how much do un-employment figures lag behind what is actually happening. Buisnesses have to have already pulled them selves back up and gotten on steady foot, THEN build up confidence that things will remain good. At that point they have to decide to hire, work out where they most need people, get the word out, schedule and execute preliminary interviews, hold second round interviews, schedule when the new workers can actually start... After all that is done there is still more time while the numbers get updated... Weekly unemployment claims however are down.
Are you related to this girl?
[video]http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1917596[/video]Your popularity is falling daily... repeats of CSI get higher ratings than your primetime specials...What it means is more and more people are on to the fact that BO is a fraud... check his approval ratingThats because one is entertainment, the other is drab and educational. No matter who is talking how many common people really tune in to random speeches from the pres other then the MAJOR ones.CARS definitely had a shaky run and there is plenty to complain about... BUT ford is reporting their highest numbers in years and many many dealerships are selling in a day what they used to in a month. Its pumped a huge amount of money through the economy and at least for now given things a good kick. Yes, they are looking for another 2 billion... But you do realize the original budget was supposed to be 4 right? That means even if the bill for 2 billion passes they will be 1 billion UNDER what was originally proposed.Oh yeah... Cash for Clunkers... It ran out of money in 4 days... Now they just added 2 billion more dollars of our tax money...
That's 2 billion over budget in 1 week... Govt run healthcare should be a breeze...
You do know that the rebate money comes from the money that we pay in taxes...? Should we have govt rebates for pc makers or for home appliances? It's all free money right...? California dreamin... lol
Oh look... cash for clunkers has been junked... damn i was going to buy a corvette with the rebate... screw the poor people that could have taken advantage of my used car that is still in great shape.
http://michellemalkin.com/2009/07/30/ca … rs-junked/
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Presidential popularity doesn't tend to benefit from economic crises.
It takes a longer period of policy than 7 months for people to really be able to accurately guage the performance of president.
Polls indicate the whims of the people at a given moment, not a longstanding view held by them -- until much more time has passed.
Besides, you know how it is. When Bush's popularity was waning, conservatives said that polls didn't mean anything. When Barack had record popularity levels, they said it didn't mean anything. Now that his popularity is waning, polls suddenly are a big deal?
I don't think so.
It takes a longer period of policy than 7 months for people to really be able to accurately guage the performance of president.
Polls indicate the whims of the people at a given moment, not a longstanding view held by them -- until much more time has passed.
Besides, you know how it is. When Bush's popularity was waning, conservatives said that polls didn't mean anything. When Barack had record popularity levels, they said it didn't mean anything. Now that his popularity is waning, polls suddenly are a big deal?
I don't think so.
...and I thought you were a small government advocate.Kmarion wrote:
Lets cut all spending out everywhere just to make sure nobody has a job. It's the fair thing to do..lolTurquoise wrote:
Why not cut both? End ALL arts spending and cut the military spending in half.SEREMAKER wrote:
yeah ... america is one to never get attacked
how about cutting 80 mill to fine arts ..... theres a start
SEREMAKER wrote:
yeah ... america is one to never get attackedDesertFox- wrote:
I was actually thinking how we ought to cut a lot of military spending out the other day. It's not cheap to maintain a large, standing army that's still ready to fight the Cold War.Turquoise wrote:
If we can assume that government run healthcare would be a bad thing due to how quickly we throw more and more money at it, then I suppose we need to cut spending on the military too, since we're throwing more and more money at that too.
Granted, the same could be said for Social Security.
It's funny to me how selective people are about perceiving government waste. They typically only criticize the sectors they disagree with, rather than looking at the big picture and seeing the waste in every department.
how about cutting 80 mill to fine arts ..... theres a start
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
Nice. Hide 3 jets in a defense bill for your private travel. Fuck sakes Obama, do something. That whole change thing you know?
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At the end of July, the House approved nearly $200 million for the Air Force to buy three elite Gulfstream jets for ferrying top government officials and Members of Congress.
http://www.rollcall.com/media/37552-1.html
Nice. Hide 3 jets in a defense bill for your private travel. Fuck sakes Obama, do something. That whole change thing you know?
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At the end of July, the House approved nearly $200 million for the Air Force to buy three elite Gulfstream jets for ferrying top government officials and Members of Congress.
http://www.rollcall.com/media/37552-1.html
Because the Democratic party has factions just like the GOP. Some would say that the Democrats are often more divided than Republicans because of their "big tent" composition.Red Forman wrote:
What the fuck is going on man. Why is it so hard, with a supermajority, why is it so hard to get the straight dope?
For example, Nancy Pelosi is very different from Blue Dog Democrats.
That's a pretty good deal...Red Forman wrote:
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
Nice. Hide 3 jets in a defense bill for your private travel. Fuck sakes Obama, do something. That whole change thing you know?
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At the end of July, the House approved nearly $200 million for the Air Force to buy three elite Gulfstream jets for ferrying top government officials and Members of Congress.
http://www.rollcall.com/media/37552-1.html
I'm willing to bet that older birds are being retired as well.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
GTFO good deal. Take a fucking airliner and scrap the fancy jets ffs.FEOS wrote:
That's a pretty good deal...Red Forman wrote:
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
Nice. Hide 3 jets in a defense bill for your private travel. Fuck sakes Obama, do something. That whole change thing you know?
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At the end of July, the House approved nearly $200 million for the Air Force to buy three elite Gulfstream jets for ferrying top government officials and Members of Congress.
http://www.rollcall.com/media/37552-1.html
I'm willing to bet that older birds are being retired as well.
80 million is fuck all. You want to be looking to cut billions, not millions. That's like saying "Oh shit, I've got $2000 to pay off my mortgage this month, I'd better buy one less Mars bar".SEREMAKER wrote:
yeah ... america is one to never get attackedDesertFox- wrote:
I was actually thinking how we ought to cut a lot of military spending out the other day. It's not cheap to maintain a large, standing army that's still ready to fight the Cold War.Turquoise wrote:
If we can assume that government run healthcare would be a bad thing due to how quickly we throw more and more money at it, then I suppose we need to cut spending on the military too, since we're throwing more and more money at that too.
Granted, the same could be said for Social Security.
It's funny to me how selective people are about perceiving government waste. They typically only criticize the sectors they disagree with, rather than looking at the big picture and seeing the waste in every department.
how about cutting 80 mill to fine arts ..... theres a start
That makes no sense.ghettoperson wrote:
80 million is fuck all. You want to be looking to cut billions, not millions. That's like saying "Oh shit, I've got $2000 to pay off my mortgage this month, I'd better buy one less Mars bar".SEREMAKER wrote:
yeah ... america is one to never get attackedDesertFox- wrote:
I was actually thinking how we ought to cut a lot of military spending out the other day. It's not cheap to maintain a large, standing army that's still ready to fight the Cold War.
how about cutting 80 mill to fine arts ..... theres a start
We've got those too (C-32, C-40, VC-25, for example).Red Forman wrote:
GTFO good deal. Take a fucking airliner and scrap the fancy jets ffs.FEOS wrote:
That's a pretty good deal...Red Forman wrote:
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
Nice. Hide 3 jets in a defense bill for your private travel. Fuck sakes Obama, do something. That whole change thing you know?
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At the end of July, the House approved nearly $200 million for the Air Force to buy three elite Gulfstream jets for ferrying top government officials and Members of Congress.
http://www.rollcall.com/media/37552-1.html
I'm willing to bet that older birds are being retired as well.
While I agree with the point to a degree, there are plenty of reasons for many of those folks to not use commercial travel regularly.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
like what?FEOS wrote:
there are plenty of reasons for many of those folks to not use commercial travel regularly.