I missed it, where did it say they were Asian? With Bin Ladan claiming it, it sure sounds middle eastern to me.AussieReaper wrote:
Learn to read facts:FEOS wrote:
Ah, lrn2data.AussieReaper wrote:
There are 1.2 billion Muslims in the world. Only 20% of them are Arabic.
If Islam was such a threat the racial profiling would be targeting mostly Asians.
The ones who blow people up aren't Asians. The validated data would point one toward the Arabic persuasion.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_Bali_bombings
These bombers were certainly Asian. Certainly Muslim. And certainly blew people up.
Or is that not validated enough for you because the terrorists isn't Arabic?
...lowing wrote:
I missed it, where did it say they were Asian? With Bin Ladan claiming it, it sure sounds middle eastern to me.AussieReaper wrote:
Learn to read facts:FEOS wrote:
Ah, lrn2data.
The ones who blow people up aren't Asians. The validated data would point one toward the Arabic persuasion.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_Bali_bombings
These bombers were certainly Asian. Certainly Muslim. And certainly blew people up.
Or is that not validated enough for you because the terrorists isn't Arabic?
It was carried out by Jemaah Islamiah...a Southeast Asian militant Islamic organization..
Truly your ignorance knows no bounds.lowing wrote:
I missed it, where did it say they were Asian? With Bin Ladan claiming it, it sure sounds middle eastern to me.AussieReaper wrote:
Learn to read facts:FEOS wrote:
Ah, lrn2data.
The ones who blow people up aren't Asians. The validated data would point one toward the Arabic persuasion.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_Bali_bombings
These bombers were certainly Asian. Certainly Muslim. And certainly blew people up.
Or is that not validated enough for you because the terrorists isn't Arabic?
Jemaah Islamiah [1] (Arabic: الجماعه الإسلاميه, al-Jamāʿh al-Islāmiyah, meaning "Islamic Congregation", frequently abbreviated JI),[2] is a Southeast Asian militant Islamic organization dedicated to the establishment of a Daulah Islamiyah[3] (Islamic State) in Southeast Asia incorporating Indonesia, Malaysia, the southern Philippines, Singapore and Brunei[4]. JI was added to the United Nations 1267 Committee's list of terrorist organizations linked to al-Qaeda or the Taliban on 25 October 2002[5] under UN Security Council Resolution 1267.
Seriously if you're going to say that members of Jemaah Islamiah are not Asian you're delusional.
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o.Olowing wrote:
I missed it, where did it say they were Asian? With Bin Ladan claiming it, it sure sounds middle eastern to me.AussieReaper wrote:
Learn to read facts:FEOS wrote:
Ah, lrn2data.
The ones who blow people up aren't Asians. The validated data would point one toward the Arabic persuasion.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_Bali_bombings
These bombers were certainly Asian. Certainly Muslim. And certainly blew people up.
Or is that not validated enough for you because the terrorists isn't Arabic?
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
~ Richard Feynman
ok thank you, so now for the million dollar question...Why is it relevant? He is an Islamic terrorist. and since it has now been PROVEN by you Islam is not a race, there is no racial profiling associated with scrutinizing Muslims accordingly.mcminty wrote:
...lowing wrote:
I missed it, where did it say they were Asian? With Bin Ladan claiming it, it sure sounds middle eastern to me.AussieReaper wrote:
Learn to read facts:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_Bali_bombings
These bombers were certainly Asian. Certainly Muslim. And certainly blew people up.
Or is that not validated enough for you because the terrorists isn't Arabic?
It was carried out by Jemaah Islamiah...a Southeast Asian militant Islamic organization..
I was just informing you of "where it said" they were Asian...
well then I will point out that it did not make that claim in the source provided by Aussie. You provided a different source. Anyway, it gave me what I needed to make my point. Islam is not a race therefore can not be racial profiling by scrutinizing it.mcminty wrote:
I was just informing you of "where it said" they were Asian...
Aren't many Arabs "Asian" too?
can't we all just agree that unless you're a white american republican christian you should be stopped at all airports
Hmmmmmmm I wonder what they used to profile the uni-bomber. I mean since they should not be allowed to point out the fact that he is white and a man. And then there is no way they should be looking for a white guy....Wow kinda hard to catch criminals if you can not actually weed out characteristics about them because someones feelings might get hurt. I wonder how your fuckin feelings stack up against a dirty bomb explosion.Mekstizzle wrote:
can't we all just agree that unless you're a white american republican christian you should be stopped at all airports
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What did they use to profile him? He was one guy. They knew he was white and a male (I'm just going by your post here). Can you say the same for Islamic extremists? Hmm, tackling terrorism sure would be easy if we could all have profiles like white male applied to them and knew them all individually or something like that. Do you get what I'm saying? Your bomber example makes no sense in context with the global threat of Islamic terrorism.lowing wrote:
Hmmmmmmm I wonder what they used to profile the uni-bomber. I mean since they should not be allowed to point out the fact that he is white and a man. And then there is no way they should be looking for a white guy....Wow kinda hard to catch criminals if you can not actually weed out characteristics about them because someones feelings might get hurt. I wonder how your fuckin feelings stack up against a dirty bomb explosion.Mekstizzle wrote:
can't we all just agree that unless you're a white american republican christian you should be stopped at all airports
They profiled him using any and all characteristics.Mekstizzle wrote:
What did they use to profile him? He was one guy. They knew he was white and a male (I'm just going by your post here). Can you say the same for Islamic extremists? Hmm, tackling terrorism sure would be easy if we could all have profiles like white male applied to them and knew them all individually or something like that. Do you get what I'm saying? Your bomber example makes no sense in context with the global threat of Islamic terrorism.lowing wrote:
Hmmmmmmm I wonder what they used to profile the uni-bomber. I mean since they should not be allowed to point out the fact that he is white and a man. And then there is no way they should be looking for a white guy....Wow kinda hard to catch criminals if you can not actually weed out characteristics about them because someones feelings might get hurt. I wonder how your fuckin feelings stack up against a dirty bomb explosion.Mekstizzle wrote:
can't we all just agree that unless you're a white american republican christian you should be stopped at all airports
religion is but one of several distinguishing characteristics used to weed out terrorists. If they are looking for Islamic terrorists, does it not make sense to look for Muslims as part of that weeding out process? Your feelings be damned.
If they were looking for a priest, I doubt they would be scrutinizing Muslims. As it is, Muslims are who they are looking for. Deal with it.
And how does one profile a Muslim
You keep a careful watch on those brown muslims lowing.lowing wrote:
Islam is not a race, there is no racial profiling associated with scrutinizing Muslims accordingly.
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ummmm you do realize he was profiled and caught right? Ya know how, they were not looking for dark skinned muslims, they were looking for a white guy. Amazing how profiling can catch a criminal huh?Dilbert_X wrote:
You keep a careful watch on those brown muslims lowing.lowing wrote:
Islam is not a race, there is no racial profiling associated with scrutinizing Muslims accordingly.
http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj25 … cveigh.jpg
By the way, do you really really wanna compare Islamic terrorism with straight white guy terrorism? No, I don't think you do.
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Profiling a single characteristic will not work, Muslim associated with various other characteristcs is what paints a profile. Place of birth, name, travel habits, reasons for travel, appearances, body language etc....Mekstizzle wrote:
And how does one profile a Muslim
lowing wrote:
ummmm you do realize he was profiled and caught right?Dilbert_X wrote:
You keep a careful watch on those brown muslims lowing.lowing wrote:
Islam is not a race, there is no racial profiling associated with scrutinizing Muslims accordingly.
http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj25 … cveigh.jpg
Yes, they went out looking for white christians who'd done military service didn't they.......
Getting a description and looking for that person =/= Profiling
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Русский военный корабль, иди на хуй!
Brown people causing troubles. Move along not news /racism
They were looking for a person that fit the discription.Dilbert_X wrote:
lowing wrote:
ummmm you do realize he was profiled and caught right?Dilbert_X wrote:
You keep a careful watch on those brown muslims lowing.
http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj25 … cveigh.jpg
Yes, they went out looking for white christians who'd done military service didn't they.......
Getting a description and looking for that person =/= Profiling
Just like they do for any other criminal.
don't try and explain this to himDilbert_X wrote:
lowing wrote:
ummmm you do realize he was profiled and caught right?Dilbert_X wrote:
You keep a careful watch on those brown muslims lowing.
http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj25 … cveigh.jpg
Yes, they went out looking for white christians who'd done military service didn't they.......
Getting a description and looking for that person =/= Profiling
Ummm they were not loking for HIM specifically..... they conducted an investigationHurricane2k9 wrote:
don't try and explain this to himDilbert_X wrote:
lowing wrote:
ummmm you do realize he was profiled and caught right?
Yes, they went out looking for white christians who'd done military service didn't they.......
Getting a description and looking for that person =/= Profiling
The official investigation, known as "OKBOMB", was the largest criminal investigation case in American history; FBI agents conducted 28,000 interviews, amassing 3.5 short tons (3.2 t) of evidence, and collected nearly one billion pieces of information. Gee amazing what an investigation can do ain't it?
Which is actually different from racial profiling. Racial profiling is when a LEO uses race instead of individual behavior/specific information as a factor for investigating potential criminal behavior.lowing wrote:
They were looking for a person that fit the discription.Dilbert_X wrote:
lowing wrote:
ummmm you do realize he was profiled and caught right?
Yes, they went out looking for white christians who'd done military service didn't they.......
Getting a description and looking for that person =/= Profiling
Just like they do for any other criminal.
Sorry if they are looking for a black guy, that will undoubtedly eliminate most white women, and you have a problem with this?SenorToenails wrote:
Which is actually different from racial profiling. Racial profiling is when a LEO uses race instead of individual behavior/specific information as a factor for investigating potential criminal behavior.lowing wrote:
They were looking for a person that fit the discription.Dilbert_X wrote:
Yes, they went out looking for white christians who'd done military service didn't they.......
Getting a description and looking for that person =/= Profiling
Just like they do for any other criminal.
If they are looking for a male Islamic terrorist, that will undoubedly eleimate most white teen age girls named buffy. Sorry to break it to you.
If the threat comes from Islam, EXPECT the search will be for Muslims.
You assume so much.lowing wrote:
Sorry if they are looking for a black guy, that will undoubtedly eliminate most white women, and you have a problem with this?
If they are looking for a male Islamic terrorist, that will undoubedly eleimate most white teen age girls named buffy. Sorry to break it to you.
If the threat comes from Islam, EXPECT the search will be for Muslims.
If a middle eastern-looking person is stopped and hassled by the police for no other reason than the fact that he looks middle eastern, then yes, I have a problem with that.
What you call "hassled" is really called investigation. You did take note that that the FBI "hassled" 28,000 people in an effort to prove McViegh was gulity.SenorToenails wrote:
You assume so much.lowing wrote:
Sorry if they are looking for a black guy, that will undoubtedly eliminate most white women, and you have a problem with this?
If they are looking for a male Islamic terrorist, that will undoubedly eleimate most white teen age girls named buffy. Sorry to break it to you.
If the threat comes from Islam, EXPECT the search will be for Muslims.
If a middle eastern-looking person is stopped and hassled by the police for no other reason than the fact that he looks middle eastern, then yes, I have a problem with that.
If they are looking fora middle eastern person and the person they stop happens to fit that discription, you should be a little more understanding regarding what they are trying to prevent. Again fuck your feelings. Believe me, if the cops are stopinng someone it is for a "reason" other than to hassle someone for their own amusement.