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Braddock wrote:

The Irish Government passed a bill proposing the outlawing of blasphemy yesterday as part of the new Defamation Act. The bill was pushed through in controversial circumstances with some opposition politicians criticizing the lack of prior debate on the matter. Should the bill make it through the Seanad today anyone found guilty of blasphemous libel will be liable to a fine of up to €25,000.

This is total bullshit. While we in the west wag our fingers at countries like Iran and decry the efforts of the Muslim community to suppress offensive cartoons a supposedly secular Western Government turns around and panders to the Christian element of society. The lowings of this world would have you believe that all is good with Christianity while Islam brings nothing but doom and gloom... well they're all as bad as each other in my book. Practice your faith and have a good time while you're doing it if you like, but don't fuck with my free speech.

Also: while this is clearly pandering to the conservative Christian element of Irish society this law could potentially be hijacked by any other faith that wishes to exploit its power because, to best of my knowledge, there is no specific reference to any religion in particular. Those cartoons of Mohammed would be illegal in this country if this law were fully passed - and that would be thanks to the Catholic church my dear lowing!

...inch by inch.

Sources:
http://www.independent.ie/national-news … 13479.html
http://blasphemy.ie/

Braddock wrote:

The Irish Government passed a bill proposing the outlawing of blasphemy yesterday as part of the new Defamation Act. The bill was pushed through in controversial circumstances with some opposition politicians criticizing the lack of prior debate on the matter. Should the bill make it through the Seanad today anyone found guilty of blasphemous libel will be liable to a fine of up to €25,000.

This is total bullshit. While we in the west wag our fingers at countries like Iran and decry the efforts of the Muslim community to suppress offensive cartoons a supposedly secular Western Government turns around and panders to the Christian element of society. The lowings of this world would have you believe that all is good with Christianity while Islam brings nothing but doom and gloom... well they're all as bad as each other in my book. Practice your faith and have a good time while you're doing it if you like, but don't fuck with my free speech.

Also: while this is clearly pandering to the conservative Christian element of Irish society this law could potentially be hijacked by any other faith that wishes to exploit its power because, to best of my knowledge, there is no specific reference to any religion in particular. Those cartoons of Mohammed would be illegal in this country if this law were fully passed - and that would be thanks to the Catholic church my dear lowing!

...inch by inch.

Sources:
http://www.independent.ie/national-news … 13479.html
http://blasphemy.ie/

Mitch wrote:

Braddock wrote:

The Irish Government passed a bill proposing the outlawing of blasphemy yesterday as part of the new Defamation Act. The bill was pushed through in controversial circumstances with some opposition politicians criticizing the lack of prior debate on the matter. Should the bill make it through the Seanad today anyone found guilty of blasphemous libel will be liable to a fine of up to €25,000.

This is total bullshit. While we in the west wag our fingers at countries like Iran and decry the efforts of the Muslim community to suppress offensive cartoons a supposedly secular Western Government turns around and panders to the Christian element of society. The lowings of this world would have you believe that all is good with Christianity while Islam brings nothing but doom and gloom... well they're all as bad as each other in my book. Practice your faith and have a good time while you're doing it if you like, but don't fuck with my free speech.

Also: while this is clearly pandering to the conservative Christian element of Irish society this law could potentially be hijacked by any other faith that wishes to exploit its power because, to best of my knowledge, there is no specific reference to any religion in particular. Those cartoons of Mohammed would be illegal in this country if this law were fully passed - and that would be thanks to the Catholic church my dear lowing!

...inch by inch.

Sources:
http://www.independent.ie/national-news … 13479.html
http://blasphemy.ie/

"Blasphemy" is far to simple of a discription.
How much you wanna bet itll be molded into including "anti-government statements"

Bertster7 wrote:

Noobpatty wrote:

Jesus Christ...

Where?!?!?

Braddock wrote:

lowing wrote:

Braddock wrote:

The Irish Government passed a bill proposing the outlawing of blasphemy yesterday as part of the new Defamation Act. The bill was pushed through in controversial circumstances with some opposition politicians criticizing the lack of prior debate on the matter. Should the bill make it through the Seanad today anyone found guilty of blasphemous libel will be liable to a fine of up to €25,000.

This is total bullshit. While we in the west wag our fingers at countries like Iran and decry the efforts of the Muslim community to suppress offensive cartoons a supposedly secular Western Government turns around and panders to the Christian element of society. The lowings of this world would have you believe that all is good with Christianity while Islam brings nothing but doom and gloom... well they're all as bad as each other in my book. Practice your faith and have a good time while you're doing it if you like, but don't fuck with my free speech.

Also: while this is clearly pandering to the conservative Christian element of Irish society this law could potentially be hijacked by any other faith that wishes to exploit its power because, to best of my knowledge, there is no specific reference to any religion in particular. Those cartoons of Mohammed would be illegal in this country if this law were fully passed - and that would be thanks to the Catholic church my dear lowing!

...inch by inch.

Sources:
http://www.independent.ie/national-news … 13479.html
http://blasphemy.ie/

I am willing to bet that this is being passed NOT to pander to Christians, but to Islam for the very reason you mentioned.

You are 100% correct, it is total bullshit regardless as to the reason.

Based on current events, can you think of any risk for bad mouthing Christianity in your country? Can you think of any risks associated with bad mouthing Islam? oops!

I can assure you lowing that our Government doesn't pander to the Muslim community here and as a minority group they certainly don't have much pull within the Government. This is very much a Christianity-inspired move, one that I would imagine was designed to deflect attention from real issues. We have a tendency in this country to get all pious and sentimental over the church when times get tough economically and this appears to be happening again. Just this week we saw a fucking tree stump get 24 hour security protection after people claimed they could see the virgin Mary in it!

lowing wrote:

Braddock wrote:

lowing wrote:

I am willing to bet that this is being passed NOT to pander to Christians, but to Islam for the very reason you mentioned.

You are 100% correct, it is total bullshit regardless as to the reason.

Based on current events, can you think of any risk for bad mouthing Christianity in your country? Can you think of any risks associated with bad mouthing Islam? oops!

I can assure you lowing that our Government doesn't pander to the Muslim community here and as a minority group they certainly don't have much pull within the Government. This is very much a Christianity-inspired move, one that I would imagine was designed to deflect attention from real issues. We have a tendency in this country to get all pious and sentimental over the church when times get tough economically and this appears to be happening again. Just this week we saw a fucking tree stump get 24 hour security protection after people claimed they could see the virgin Mary in it!

Still gunna stick to my guns on this, and repeat, based on current events, can you think of any risk for bad mouthing Christianity in your country? Can you think of any risks associated with bad mouthing Islam?

It is only being disguised as if they have no one group in mind.

Last edited by Bertster7 (2009-07-13 03:44:58)

Longbow wrote:

Theres a reason why state and church are no longer a single thing. Church was devided from rulling the country for a reason. Now they wanna bring it back? Wtf? I'm really sorry for irish non-believers.