CHICKENS!!! ^_^TriggerHappy998 wrote:
Okay, since you like Einstein so much, Fill in the blank:
"I don't know how World War 3 will be fought, but I can tell you right now that World War 4 will be fought with "
[real answer: sticks + stones]
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[real answer: sticks + stones]
Sticks, dude.
Sticks and Stones.
I believe sticks is correct. Since there's be nothing left after WWIII.
einstein said 'sticks and stones'.MattCicioni wrote:
I believe sticks is correct. Since there's be nothing left after WWIII.
Absolutly hilarious.
+1 for you.
+1 for you.
love it when u gyus talk dirty... stickies and stoned
Last edited by TheMajorBummer (2005-10-20 02:28:01)
I myself am a student of history. I must say for only a few days research you did quite well.
The first pic is actualy from one of the later greek periods. True they first learned to hop to aviod sniper fire, but later they found the "tuffo del delfino" formation. Or dolphin dive.
This is actualy an artistic rendition of the famed hero "smakus astos" Who was famed for beeing able to avoid enemy javilins by diving backward. Although much debated for accuacy, it is belived he led of team in this dolphin dive formation to another city held by the enemy.
Romans though are the creaters of the dolphin dive. It was discovered quite by accedent realy. While at the battle of Trasimeno, in which the romans, using greek auxilias, battled the carthagins. While diving out of the way of various mobile units, they found them selves nearly invencible to the archers mounted on top of a war elephant.
The greeks later returned home after thier service to the post Marious roman army was finnished.
The dolphin dive truly faded out of exsitance during more slowly moving wars, such as WW1. But on the modern battle field of hit and run capture the flag, diving has made a much deserved comeback.
But still, it should be noted, although in that picture obviously several people are diving, it was not truly that wide spread of a greek tactic. . . as they complained about having the wind knocked out of them. Luckly, General patton found during WW2 that knee and elbow pads could garuntee not only a fully successfull dolphin dive, shooters found thier accuracy actualy increased while in the air. Not only did it increase it over the standard broken bunny line formation, but some clained it was better than the attentive camper formations. The use of knee pads is well attributed to McAurthors secretary. It is said after servicing patton several times he thought every one should be givin the ability to drop so quickly.
smakus astos, or as the romans called him l33t H@x0r, actualy was killed in the last battle of the Persian Wars at Themistocles in 586 BC. It was said that he he won the with his efforts. Yet exact records do not exist. What is known is that the greeks managed to sneak into an belived uncaptual point early on the morning of the battle. By flinging them selves from a catapult and using scraps of cloth to slow thier decent. The few that made it just before dawn, when most soldier were bussy spawing with the wences that follow an army, managed to steal most of the boats and other important military equipment of the day.
This delay and early and slaughter of men from both sides would be come known as raping.
I belive that is the origion of that image.
History truly can teach you alot about why we do what we do, all you have to do is look into it a bit. this goes for all walks of life, not just the military.
The first pic is actualy from one of the later greek periods. True they first learned to hop to aviod sniper fire, but later they found the "tuffo del delfino" formation. Or dolphin dive.
This is actualy an artistic rendition of the famed hero "smakus astos" Who was famed for beeing able to avoid enemy javilins by diving backward. Although much debated for accuacy, it is belived he led of team in this dolphin dive formation to another city held by the enemy.
Romans though are the creaters of the dolphin dive. It was discovered quite by accedent realy. While at the battle of Trasimeno, in which the romans, using greek auxilias, battled the carthagins. While diving out of the way of various mobile units, they found them selves nearly invencible to the archers mounted on top of a war elephant.
The greeks later returned home after thier service to the post Marious roman army was finnished.
The dolphin dive truly faded out of exsitance during more slowly moving wars, such as WW1. But on the modern battle field of hit and run capture the flag, diving has made a much deserved comeback.
But still, it should be noted, although in that picture obviously several people are diving, it was not truly that wide spread of a greek tactic. . . as they complained about having the wind knocked out of them. Luckly, General patton found during WW2 that knee and elbow pads could garuntee not only a fully successfull dolphin dive, shooters found thier accuracy actualy increased while in the air. Not only did it increase it over the standard broken bunny line formation, but some clained it was better than the attentive camper formations. The use of knee pads is well attributed to McAurthors secretary. It is said after servicing patton several times he thought every one should be givin the ability to drop so quickly.
smakus astos, or as the romans called him l33t H@x0r, actualy was killed in the last battle of the Persian Wars at Themistocles in 586 BC. It was said that he he won the with his efforts. Yet exact records do not exist. What is known is that the greeks managed to sneak into an belived uncaptual point early on the morning of the battle. By flinging them selves from a catapult and using scraps of cloth to slow thier decent. The few that made it just before dawn, when most soldier were bussy spawing with the wences that follow an army, managed to steal most of the boats and other important military equipment of the day.
This delay and early and slaughter of men from both sides would be come known as raping.
I belive that is the origion of that image.
History truly can teach you alot about why we do what we do, all you have to do is look into it a bit. this goes for all walks of life, not just the military.
Last edited by Umbra Acciptris (2005-10-29 02:11:58)
Yeah, my English teacher told me that. To this day I still have no idea why she did this.TriggerHappy998 wrote:
I feel like I've heard this somewhere before...
And I bet you don't know how the middle finger came to be what it means today
Back during the Hundred Years' War, the English would capture French Archers and cut off their middle fingers so they could not pull back a bow. On the field of battle the French would put up their middle fingers to show that they still had it, and were still battle ready. And it pretty much meant, "Fuck you, I'm still useful"
I have no idea why I explained that.
[Blinking eyes thing]
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...Sticks and stones, trig, sticks and stones
and they prob still had people complaining about " chariot whores"
This is sort of true but mixed up. It was the French that would cut off the middle fingers of the English Longbowmen. (The more feared archer.) The English would mock the French by waving their index and middle finger in a backwards Victory salute, as these were the two fingers that pulled the bow. This is why the English use V as the Americans use the Middle finger. I have no idea where the middle finger insult comes from, (neither do most scholars.) Remember, the English Longbow decimated the French Royalty at Agincourt. A force of about 3,500 bowmen wiping out about 10,000 armored cavalry in a single afternoon. The French were deathly afraid of the Longbow.TriggerHappy998 wrote:
I feel like I've heard this somewhere before...
And I bet you don't know how the middle finger came to be what it means today
Back during the Hundred Years' War, the English would capture French Archers and cut off their middle fingers so they could not pull back a bow. On the field of battle the French would put up their middle fingers to show that they still had it, and were still battle ready. And it pretty much meant, "Fuck you, I'm still useful"
I have no idea why I explained that.
lmao very funny
Im pretty sure i heard something about pilots in world war 2 scrambling for their planes, but i think they had their own planes.
Agincorut proved without a shadow of a doubt the use and superiority of the english yew longbow. Yet it was not mainly calvery they longbowmen wiped. mostly they were french lancers and knights. The english planned well for the battle, forcing the french to dismount, walk up hill, through the mud and a natual choke point. about 10,00 calverly is correct, but about another 20,000 were foot.ScreamingJay wrote:
This is sort of true but mixed up. It was the French that would cut off the middle fingers of the English Longbowmen. (The more feared archer.) The English would mock the French by waving their index and middle finger in a backwards Victory salute, as these were the two fingers that pulled the bow. This is why the English use V as the Americans use the Middle finger. I have no idea where the middle finger insult comes from, (neither do most scholars.) Remember, the English Longbow decimated the French Royalty at Agincourt. A force of about 3,500 bowmen wiping out about 10,000 armored cavalry in a single afternoon. The French were deathly afraid of the Longbow.TriggerHappy998 wrote:
I feel like I've heard this somewhere before...
And I bet you don't know how the middle finger came to be what it means today
Back during the Hundred Years' War, the English would capture French Archers and cut off their middle fingers so they could not pull back a bow. On the field of battle the French would put up their middle fingers to show that they still had it, and were still battle ready. And it pretty much meant, "Fuck you, I'm still useful"
I have no idea why I explained that.
The armored knights were basicly even more fucked for thier armor, which stuck in the mud worse than all the peasant archers bair or cloth covered feet. If I remember correctly, many of the peasant archers drowned or stabed knights who survied the arrows, but were mostly stuck in the mud. after the main battle. As Henry's army was most all starved sicly peasants who did not see value in ransom they would likly ever be able to collect.
Between the dead, and having broken lines, the few frenchmen that managed to trod for 15 min in full armor over roughly broken terrain (calvery does that). Taking missle fire (english archers averaged arround 10 shots per min, at the 15 min travel time, 4000ish archers. . . 6,00,000ish arrows. . . at a full force of about 30,000. . . look 20 arrows for each of you). The few that managed to make it across the battle field were easly taken by the less than 1000 pikemen henery had.
Yes after that the french had reason to fear the enlish. . . Although with decent command and stratagy the french never would have lost. They allowed themselves to take a weaker position due to the superior number of thier army. A few factors played into this, first thier leaders were badly chosen by an insane king. The "rules of warfare" of the day meant it would be dishonerable to attack 5000ish troops with 30,000ish. Also henery up played the moral of his men by making them totaly silent the night before, threatining to cut off ears of people who made noise.
If one of the main 3 factors had changed, they could easly have won. Even such simple preperation as having taken cannons with the army to bombard the english may have been decisive. . . Henery having abandoned all of his artiery at Harfleur to keep ahead of the french army.
But I thought indeed it was the french that would cut off the finger of the english bowmen. Most particulary after and due to Agincourt. The french feard the english longbowmen, but could not easly dispose of thousands of prisoners following various battles. As such they would simply remove the fingers of many, to make sure they never again used the weapon that most scared the french.
You cannot fire a bow missing your middle finger. You need both the middle and the pointer to aim a noched arrow. Bow pull wight out of the question, although I imagine the pull was harder.
That I do belive it is quite possible for the french to have invted the flipping off. . .Even though the popular insult of the time (as per Shakespeare) was to bite your thumb
Quick modern translationRome and Julet wrote:
SAMPSON
[Bites Right Thumb]
ABRAHAM
Do you bite your thumb at us, sir?
SAMPSON
I do bite my thumb, sir.
ABRAHAM
Do you bite your thumb at us, sir?
SAMPSON
[Aside to GREGORY] Is the law of our side, if I say
ay?
GREGORY
No.
SAMPSON
No, sir, I do not bite my thumb at you, sir, but I
bite my thumb, sir.
GREGORY
Do you quarrel, sir?
ABRAHAM
Quarrel sir! no, sir.
SAMPSON
[Flips the bird]
ABRAHAM
Did you just flip me off?
SAMPSON
No, I was just merely exorsizing my go fuck yourself gestures.
ABRAHAM
So you are saying I should go fuck myself?
SAMPSON
[Aside to GREGORY]Can they kick our ass leagly if I say yes?
GREGORY
yes
SAMPSON
No, I am not saying you should go fuck yourself. . . I am just saying go fuck yourself.
GREGORY
Ok, who's up for an ass whoping?
ABRAHAM
Please your not even worth my time
God I feel like I wrote a book. . . Sory for the long post, but after writing that I do not want to delete it =p
Last edited by Umbra Acciptris (2005-12-11 05:20:55)
world war 4 like most common wars or skimishes now days there will be more team kills than kills that the enemy make on us..........
in prevention of ww4 i call a mass nuke bombing raid on the pilgramage of mecca, jihad that you fuks
in prevention of ww4 i call a mass nuke bombing raid on the pilgramage of mecca, jihad that you fuks
Actually, the interesting thing about Agincourt is that not many casualties were even CAUSED by the longbow. The French at that time who had armour were the rich nobles, who could afford armour good enough that the longbow was largely ineffective at penetrating. It was the fact that it SEEMED like they were getting bombarded by longbows (since the English army had such an unusually high number of archers in the battle), and the fact that the majority of knights on the French side were in very heavy armour, which is useless for the mud they were in.. the English peasants did not fight by the rules of Chivalry, unlike the English nobles, so the French nobles were in trouble chiefly because they couldnt move fast in the mud, and the barefoot peasants with daggers could easily dispatch them. Since they were in a bottleneck, the French numbers meant nothing, because they were slowed down and constricted into it, where they could be killed in groups (Similar to Robert the Bruce's victory where he was holding the main bridge into Scotland). It's because there were so many archers that the mythos of the slaughter at Agincourt was associated with the longbow, but it didn't actually have a lot to do with it. It was more the wild archers themselves rather than the weapon they held.
Yeah, it's people like you that cause wars.philbymaris wrote:
in prevention of ww4 i call a mass nuke bombing raid on the pilgramage of mecca, jihad that you fuks
Albert Einstein for $200...TriggerHappy998 wrote:
Okay, since you like Einstein so much, Fill in the blank:beeng wrote:
nerds.TriggerHappy998 wrote:
I love history
get to the cool history, like einstein and his crazy days at the patent office
"I don't know how World War 3 will be fought, but I can tell you right now that World War 4 will be fought with "
The answer is "What is sticks and stones!"
nice post, i love history 2
"I don't know how World War 3 will be fought, but I can tell you right now that World War 4 will be fought with" ......out me
And, btw, this gives the term "HOPlite" a bit of a new meaning, eh?
not that the phalanx would have hopped a lot in those 70pds + of armor pp unless u prodded them with one of those sticks.
And btw., if the englishers hadn't stuck pointy sticks in the mud at agincourt for the frogs to impale themselves on, who knows what would have happended.
Probably some1 told the frogs it was fashionable to be impaled
"I don't know how World War 3 will be fought, but I can tell you right now that World War 4 will be fought with" ......out me
And, btw, this gives the term "HOPlite" a bit of a new meaning, eh?
not that the phalanx would have hopped a lot in those 70pds + of armor pp unless u prodded them with one of those sticks.
And btw., if the englishers hadn't stuck pointy sticks in the mud at agincourt for the frogs to impale themselves on, who knows what would have happended.
Probably some1 told the frogs it was fashionable to be impaled
Last edited by Dr.Death (2006-01-26 22:41:04)
Brilliant! Inspired! A must read by all
=VivEmp=Napolean was a commander whore
{macedawgs}AlexanderTheGreat was too
3rd/\Patton was a total tank whoring commander
Archers don't need the bird to shoot a crossbow so the Pope banned it, the crossbow not the bird!
The French got owned 3x by English @ Agincourt, Crecy and Poiters by about the same English tactics and the reason was the Commanders were out joyriding near tramacourt and not using siege and scouts.
The French (allegedly) spawn camped at the English baggage train in Agincourt.
All the Chivalry of France at the battles were lone wolf stat whores.
The night before Agincourt 500 Frenchmen were upgraded to Lieutenant and evidently pick the wrong unlock.
I think I read in the Old testament that Goliath tried to bunny hop, ONCE......David used aimbot?
=VivEmp=Napolean was a commander whore
{macedawgs}AlexanderTheGreat was too
3rd/\Patton was a total tank whoring commander
Archers don't need the bird to shoot a crossbow so the Pope banned it, the crossbow not the bird!
The French got owned 3x by English @ Agincourt, Crecy and Poiters by about the same English tactics and the reason was the Commanders were out joyriding near tramacourt and not using siege and scouts.
The French (allegedly) spawn camped at the English baggage train in Agincourt.
All the Chivalry of France at the battles were lone wolf stat whores.
The night before Agincourt 500 Frenchmen were upgraded to Lieutenant and evidently pick the wrong unlock.
I think I read in the Old testament that Goliath tried to bunny hop, ONCE......David used aimbot?
Last edited by OpsChief (2006-02-14 22:53:50)
C'mon guys it's obvious that H1tl3r was the biggest tank and jet whore ever. If it wasn't for the fact that patch 0.0.13 had vehicles that ran out of fuel he'd still be pwning your a$$ right now. Instead he posted many notices of whining on the Braunau town noticeboard before going down to the local difference engine shop and getting himself a copy of F.E.A.R- after all what is the next logical game for a facist dictator who is heavily into the occult to be playing?
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