Kmar
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090629/ap_ … duras_coup
TEGUCIGALPA, Honduras – Soldiers ousted the democratically elected president of Honduras on Sunday and Congress named a successor, but the leftist ally of Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez denounced what he called an illegal coup and vowed to stay in power.

The first military takeover of a Central American government in 16 years drew widespread condemnation from governments in Latin America and the world — including the U.S. — and Chavez vowed to overthrow the country's apparent new leader.

President Manuel Zelaya was awakened Sunday by gunfire and detained while still in his pajamas, hours before a constitutional referendum many saw as an attempt by him to stay in power beyond the one-term limit. An air force plane flew him into forced exile in Costa Rica as armored military vehicles with machine guns rolled through the streets of the Honduran capital and soldiers seized the national palace.

"I want to return to my country," Zelaya said in Costa Rica. "I am president of Honduras."

Congress voted to accept what it said was Zelaya's letter of resignation, with even Zelaya's former allies turning against him. Congressional leader Roberto Micheletti was sworn in to serve until Jan. 27 when Zelaya's term ends.

Micheletti belongs to Zelaya's Liberal Party, but opposed the president in the referendum.

Zelaya denied resigning and insisted he would serve out his term, even as the Supreme Court backed the military takeover and said it was a defense of democracy.

He left late Sunday on a plane provided by Chavez, bound for Nicaragua where he was to attend a scheduled meeting of Central American presidents the following day.

Zelaya called on Honduran soldiers to back him, urged citizens to take to the streets in peaceful protests, but only a few hundred turned out at the main protests in the capital.

Micheletti was sworn in at a ceremony inside the Congress building with cheers and chants from fellow legislators of "Honduras! Honduras!"

Outside of Congress, a group of about 150 people opposed to Zelaya's ouster stood well back from police lines and shook their fists, chanting "Out with the bourgeoisie!" and "Traitors!"

Within hours, Micheletti declared a nationwide, 9 p.m. to 6 a.m. curfew for two days starting Sunday night. He told a news conference he had appointed a new foreign minister: lawyer and former Ambassador to the U.N. Enrique Ortez Colindres.
The Whitehouse speaks out.
Reaction to the apparent coup was swift. U.S. President Barack Obama said he was “deeply concerned” and called on all political actors in Honduras to “respect democratic norms, the rule of law and the tenets of the Inter-American Democratic Charter. Any existing tensions and disputes must be resolved peacefully through dialogue free from any outside interference,” he said.

    The Obama administration worked in recent days to prevent President Zelaya’s ouster, a senior U.S. official said. The State Department, in particular, communicated to Honduran officials on the ground that President Obama wouldn’t support any non-democratic transfer of power in the Central American country.

    “We had some indication” that a move against Mr. Zelaya was a foot, said a U.S. official briefed on the diplomacy. “We made it clear it was something we didn’t support.”

    Secretary of State Hillary Clinton joined Mr. Obama Sunday in criticizing the Honduran coup and calling for the restoration of the democratic process.

    “We call on all parties in Honduras to respect the constitutional order and the rule of law, to reaffirm their democratic vocation, and to commit themselves to resolve political disputes peacefully and through dialogue,” Mrs. Clinton said in a statement.
This was a court order.. doesn't look like a coup: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne … -coup.html
The Honduran Supreme Court of Justice has confirmed that Honduran president Manuel Zelaya was detained this morning by the military in compliance with an order of the courts of law.
The EU has also condemned the coup: http://www.monstersandcritics.com/news/ … _Honduras_

Here is a nice breakdown of events: http://faustasblog.com/?p=13639
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Macbeth
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White house response. I guess everything that happens in the world demands a white house statement of what America thinks of the situation.
Catbox
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love what a guy wrote as a response to the story on 1 of your links...

"Wow, no reservations from Obama about 'meddling' in Honduran affairs. Immediate condemnation by the State Dept and White House over the attempt by the supreme court and congress in Honduras to defend their Constitution from a Castro/Chavez stooge."
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Kmar
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Macbeth wrote:

White house response. I guess everything that happens in the world demands a white house statement of what America thinks of the situation.
Both The EU and the Whitehouse were very quick to respond... quicker than they have been at least.
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Macbeth
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Kmarion wrote:

Macbeth wrote:

White house response. I guess everything that happens in the world demands a white house statement of what America thinks of the situation.
Both The EU and the Whitehouse were very quick to respond... quicker than they have been at least.
But you get what I'm saying though?
Kmar
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[TUF]Catbox wrote:

love what a guy wrote as a response to the story on 1 of your links...

"Wow, no reservations from Obama about 'meddling' in Honduran affairs. Immediate condemnation by the State Dept and White House over the attempt by the supreme court and congress in Honduras to defend their Constitution from a Castro/Chavez stooge."
This controversial referendum curfunkles me ..
http://www.realclearworld.com/blog/2009 … oil_1.html




Yes Macbeth I understand and for the most part agree.
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Hurricane2k9
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The guy had a terrible approval rating and wanted to change something in the Honduran constitution regarding re-elections (he basically wanted to stay in power).
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Macbeth
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Hurricane2k9 wrote:

The guy had a terrible approval rating and wanted to change something in the Honduran constitution regarding re-elections (he basically wanted to stay in power).
Doesn't everyone in power want to stay there?
Turquoise
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It's Honduras.  Leave them alone.
Kmar
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Hurricane2k9 wrote:

The guy had a terrible approval rating and wanted to change something in the Honduran constitution regarding re-elections (he basically wanted to stay in power).
I got that.. but there is a lot of confusion as to what he could legally do. Then there were reports of him resigning, then he said he didn't resign, then there is a letter of resignation.. sheesh.

Was Zelaya legally arrested? It looks like the armed forces acted with a legal basis. Legal or not Chavez say "He will not accept his arrest".
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Kmar
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BTW Chavez is blaming "the kidnapping" on us. Aka the North American Empire.
http://www.abn.info.ve/noticia.php?arti … &lee=4
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Turquoise
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There's something painfully ironic about a guy who assumes power through a coup (Chavez) condemning another coup.
Kmar
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Turquoise wrote:

There's something painfully ironic about a guy who assumes power through a coup (Chavez) condemning another coup.
The irony is his overt "meddling" .. as in direct threats. .. and then blames the coup that really isn't a coup on the US.
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Hurricane2k9
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Macbeth wrote:

Hurricane2k9 wrote:

The guy had a terrible approval rating and wanted to change something in the Honduran constitution regarding re-elections (he basically wanted to stay in power).
Doesn't everyone in power want to stay there?
I wouldn't mind a dictator for life if he was the perfect leader. Unfortunately, the ones who try to install themselves for life are always nutjobs.

And Chavez can also fist himself. It's funny how he accuses the US of meddling in Honduran affairs and then says he'll invade Honduras if the overthrown president isn't put back in power. All cos he's buddy-buddy with the ex-President.
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Kmar
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I have friends that live in Costa Rica. I really hope this doesn't spill over into Nicaragua/Costa Rica.
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Hurricane2k9 wrote:

Macbeth wrote:

Hurricane2k9 wrote:

The guy had a terrible approval rating and wanted to change something in the Honduran constitution regarding re-elections (he basically wanted to stay in power).
Doesn't everyone in power want to stay there?
I wouldn't mind a dictator for life if he was the perfect leader. Unfortunately, the ones who try to install themselves for life are always nutjobs.

And Chavez can also fist himself. It's funny how he accuses the US of meddling in Honduran affairs and then says he'll invade Honduras if the overthrown president isn't put back in power. All cos he's buddy-buddy with the ex-President.
It's a relative.
Kmar
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Hurricane2k9 wrote:

Macbeth wrote:

Hurricane2k9 wrote:

The guy had a terrible approval rating and wanted to change something in the Honduran constitution regarding re-elections (he basically wanted to stay in power).
Doesn't everyone in power want to stay there?
I wouldn't mind a dictator for life if he was the perfect leader. Unfortunately, the ones who try to install themselves for life are always nutjobs.

And Chavez can also fist himself. It's funny how he accuses the US of meddling in Honduran affairs and then says he'll invade Honduras if the overthrown president isn't put back in power. All cos he's buddy-buddy with the ex-President.
Absolute power corrupts, absolutely.
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By Sunday night, officials in Washington said they had spoken with Mr. Zelaya and were working for his return to power in Honduras, despite relations with Mr. Zelaya that had recently turned colder because of the inclusion of Honduras in the Bolivarian Alternative for the Americas, or ALBA, a leftist political alliance led by Venezuela.
Hey that's great Mr. President, and no surprise really, beings as Zelaya doesn't give a shit about that countries rule of law or constitution. He is part of a union of radical leftists who seeks to extend his own term. I believe the military took up arms against him because they knew Hugo was looking to pick a fight and called the shots in that nest of vipers.

Go on Obama, you empty suit stupid power grabbing puke. See how much damage you can do.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/29/world … venez.html
AussieReaper
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When the military overthrows a President for "democracy" more often than not they appoint a General who was even worse than the last guy.
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FEOS
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AussieReaper wrote:

When the military overthrows a President for "democracy" more often than not they appoint a General who was even worse than the last guy.
What about when they respond to a court order? What happens more often than not then?
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Kmarion wrote:

I have friends that live in Costa Rica. I really hope this doesn't spill over into Nicaragua/Costa Rica.
Costa Rica is about the most stable nation in Central America.
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CameronPoe wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

I have friends that live in Costa Rica. I really hope this doesn't spill over into Nicaragua/Costa Rica.
Costa Rica is about the most stable nation in Central America.
What about Agrentina or Brazil?
CameronPoe
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M.O.A.B wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

I have friends that live in Costa Rica. I really hope this doesn't spill over into Nicaragua/Costa Rica.
Costa Rica is about the most stable nation in Central America.
What about Agrentina or Brazil?
They're in South America.
M.O.A.B
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CameronPoe wrote:

M.O.A.B wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:


Costa Rica is about the most stable nation in Central America.
What about Agrentina or Brazil?
They're in South America.
Bah, same thing.
Hurricane2k9
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M.O.A.B wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

M.O.A.B wrote:


What about Agrentina or Brazil?
They're in South America.
Bah, same thing.
Argentina's got corruption and Brazil has some nasty crime. I'd say Chile's the best, though I have a slight bias heh....
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