uziq
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royal families wouldn't have remained in business for very long if they weren't assiduous horse-breeders.
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Dilbert_X wrote:

uziq wrote:

this is just hilarious. a few months ago you were posting pictures of nuclear submarines and bragging about it, as if you were the master designer of the whole fucking thing.
Still more than you've done.
i dunno mate, i've helped to bring fairly over 100 books into the world now, many of them well-reviewed, some with good coverage and accolades in the TLS, LRB, etc. about 30 of those were my own commissions and probably wouldn't exist at all if i hadn't souped them up and brought them to a publishing director.

and nobody had to die or be maimed to satisfy my ego, either. i'm pretty content overall.

plus women actually want to talk to me about my work. win/win.
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None of my weapons systems have killed anyone.

But they can, thats what makes going in to work worthwhile.
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Engineer/programmer at work on weapons systems that haven't killed anyone:

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That guy kinda looks like macbeth
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Macbeth hiding behind the café counter from the soldier he cucked:

https://yukaichou.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Myles-Dyson-Gamification.jpg
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Dilbert_X wrote:

None of my weapons systems have killed anyone.

But they can, thats what makes going in to work worthwhile.
why would you brag about working on the collins sub, its a piece of junk
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unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Macbeth hiding behind the café counter from the soldier he cucked:

https://yukaichou.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Myles-Dyson-Gamification.jpg
Funny you mention that. I felt some sort of way yesterday and messaged the girl.


It is not funny I need to be incognito in my own town.
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Cybargs wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

None of my weapons systems have killed anyone.

But they can, thats what makes going in to work worthwhile.
why would you brag about working on the collins sub, its a piece of junk
Its has to last about another 50 years, or 20 years after someone decides on whats going to replace it - whichever is the shorter.

In the 20 years Australia has failed to make a decision China has built

Fifty diesel-powered attack submarines
Six nuclear-powered attack submarines
Four nuclear-powered ballistic missile submarines.
Русский военный корабль, иди на хуй!
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"Man heckles Prince Andrew while he walks in his mother's funeral procession"
https://old.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout … ks_in_his/

This man would be killed in Uzique's U.K.
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I think after some time, probably sooner than people expect, there is going to be a turning against the queen.

Ruther Bader Ginsburg was exalted right after she died. There were plenty of people rightly questioning her judgment before the body was cold. They were shouted down for a little. Now it is a matter of fact that her personal ego led to the Dobbs case.
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SuperJail Warden wrote:

"Man heckles Prince Andrew while he walks in his mother's funeral procession"
https://old.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout … ks_in_his/

This man would be killed in Uzique's U.K.
ironically the laws about this sort of thing came as a passing shot from johnson’s horrid government.

i don’t agree with the crackdown against protests or the new public order laws.

with that said, the opposite principle is that we let people picket funerals and hurl insults at grieving relatives. aka the westboro baptist church. i’m pretty sure even they get moved along to some boundary at a set proximity in ‘free’ america.

re: RBG, likening a queen to a supreme court justice is retarded. it’s stupid to even make a celebrity or ‘yasss girl’ icon out of a judge in the first place. seeing the queen as a figurehead and a symbol with which to identify is their whole goddamned point for royalists/monarchists. of course the cult of celebrity in america is built on shakier foundations.

the royal family by definition can’t make any decisions which are as consequential as a supreme court justice. you fundamentally don’t understand our system if you think people are going to reappraise the ‘important decisions’ and consequences thereof of a constitutional monarch. she turned up to things and cut red ribbons. the dobbs case, lmfao. neutered ceremonial heads of state aren’t given such opportunities for blowback.

people won’t turn against the queen but i think sentiment will quickly cool, if not sour, on the new carolean age. he gave a big speech with all the pomp and ceremony in westminster hall yesterday. the last time there was a charles on the stage at westminster hall was a rather different scenario.

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I think people can afford to let up on someone at their dead relative's funeral. If Trump died of an anger stroke tomorrow, I wouldn't hop on a plane to go jeer at his Mar-a-Lago burial within earshot of Barron. Tacky.
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Maybe they shouldn't have had a parade then.

How do you think a Trump funeral procession through NYC would go?
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the johnson govt, under priti patel's home office, rushed through a new public order legislation that cynically tried to make protest much harder.

ironically this was targeted broadly at stemming the tide of road/train disrupting strikes by xtinction rebellion (XR) or as part of the culture wars rhetoric against BLM 'rioters' and statue destroyers. standard conservatives playbook. it was intended to shore up their own base and to make their own decisions less accountable, by phrasing deliberately vague legislation that declared it a public order offence to cause 'irritation' or 'agitation' or something similarly bloody vague. the bar is very low now to be moved along or given a police caution. but this was never designed to protect the bloody monarchy or make criticism of the queen/king illegal. i doubt it ever occurred to the venal BoJo cabinet, tbh, who were wholly concerned with their own executive power.

but, yes, showing up to a funeral cortege with hundreds of people paying their respects in attendance and shouting things is probably going to qualify as intentionally causing 'agitation' or whatever under the same legislation. i have a much bigger problem with the legislation than i do with someone being disrespectful at a funeral.
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SuperJail Warden wrote:

Maybe they shouldn't have had a parade then.

How do you think a Trump funeral procession through NYC would go?
trump is widely disliked in NYC. if you think edinburgh is a hotbed of republicanism then you really, really need to leave new jersey.

even scots refer to edinburgh as a city full of sassenachs, i.e. not true scotsmen. people in edinburgh like the queen.
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I am saying that we just don't do mandatory mourning here.
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where is there mandatory mourning? the vast majority of the country don't care. two small but very vocal minorities feel strongly about it.

nobody but no one i know is in 'mourning'.

but ok.

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People in the 60's were chumps.

If Biden died they wouldn't announce it over the live speaker at the supermarket. Nobody would stop what they are doing to "pay respect".
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of course news programming would be interrupted to announce the death of a president. you are talking utter bollocks.

american schoolchildren are forced to "pay respect" to their irrational national symbolism and hokum every morning in school. english schoolchildren aren't made to sing god save the king in schools, you know. really make u think.

'mandatory mourning', haha.
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That does remind me of something actually. The late 50's white guy who has a sophomore homeroom in my room has gotten very serious about the pledge of allegiance this year. He is Ukrainian-America so maybe he feels some sort of way about patriotism. He makes them all stand for the flag (what I would make them do) but also makes them put their hand on their heart, put the cellphones down, and look at the flag. I wouldn't make them do any of that. And now I have to do it too since I can't contradict the other guy.
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We once had a cop in school while I was helping bring the kids into the building. The pledge came on and I decided I was just going to continue working through it. The cop looked offended at my lack of patriotism. I thought he was stupid for getting up even though it was just the two of us.
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half of americans are in a cult where they buy merchandise and wear little red hats declaring their allegiance to a perma-tanned bankrupt grifter.

i think you're really barking up the wrong tree if you're accusing brits of somehow being brainwashed or slavishly devoted to some false idol. nobody in the UK, even royalists, goes around wearing little lapel pins or baseball caps proclaiming their political identity.

it's been a running joke for years that americans are the main consumers of royal news and gossip. 'the crown' and such shows are big exports to US markets. your average british person feels lukewarm about the royal family, like with all political topics, really. there's a certain level of irony/cynicism and/or basic reservation built into public life.

we are nowhere near as patriotic as americans in general. like it's not even close. let people have their sentimental moment over a leader who was around for 70 years. to most people she's just some sort of national grandmother. and it really doesn't matter. none of it is of any circumstance in comparison to your average populist strongman.

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The Ukranian-American teacher is out of line if he's making standing for the pledge mandatory.

If there is any fixed star in our constitutional constellation, it is that no official, high or petty, can prescribe what shall be orthodox in politics, nationalism, religion, or other matters of opinion or force citizens to confess by word or act their faith therein.
— Justice Robert Jackson (West Virginia State Board of Education v. Barnette)

roberthjackson.org wrote:

Jackson wrote the majority opinion for the Court, which was split 6-3. Jackson held that making it compulsory to salute the flag and pledge allegiance was a violation of the First and Fourteenth Amendments and was not able to be justified as a means of achieving patriotism and national unity.  Jackson reasoned that saying the pledge of allegiance was speech as it communicated an expression of set ideas. By making this speech a requirement it violated the First Amendment values.
I wouldn't glance twice at a uniformed cop for standing for the pledge or anthem. Maybe if they recited it like a calming mantra before going into battle with traffic violators, they'd beat less people to death.
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being snide about britain's national mourning in the week of 9/11 is pretty rich, too.

the same number of people have been dying nearly every day of covid-19 in america, but somehow that tragedy in new york has had to produce all the right words and all the default expressions of grief for nigh-on 20 years now. talk about 'mandatory' feelings.

imagine if someone even tried to pooh-pooh the idea of all the national hysteria and remembrance over 9/11, say, 10 years after the event. it was such an absurd meme that even norm riffed on it.

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unnamednewbie13 wrote:

I think people can afford to let up on someone at their dead relative's funeral. If Trump died of an anger stroke tomorrow, I wouldn't hop on a plane to go jeer at his Mar-a-Lago burial within earshot of Barron. Tacky.
just to clarify, the protestor in edinburgh went to the funeral to shout at prince andrew about his epstein controversy.

prince andrew was banished from public life by the queen; that he's using her funeral as an opportunity to reappear and whitewash his reputation is grieviously ill-judged by him. he is not a smart guy. british people won't fall for it.

but people aren't attending the cortege or funeral arrangements to pay respects to prince andrew. the protestor got shushed away because nobody wants to hear someone shouting about pedophiles at some innocent old lady's funeral.

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