ATG
Banned
+5,233|6823|Global Command
Why can't they just say it?

The schools in California have a primary job, and that is the teaching of mexican children.

The budget cuts will be especially painful for struggling schools such as Richmond High School, where more than half of its 1,700 students are English learners and three-quarters are considered poor. The East Bay area school has failed to meet academic standards set by the federal No Child Left Behind Act for more than four years.

California schools now rank at or near the bottom nationally in academic performance, student-teacher ratios in middle and high school, access to guidance counselors and the percentage of seniors who go directly to four-year colleges, according to a February report by UCLA's Institute for Democracy, Education and Access.

In its annual survey this year, Education Week magazine ranked California 47th in per-pupil spending and gave the state a D in academic achievement.
No more money.

We start home schooling next semester.
Swan
The town bike
+54|5741
maybe Hollywood will help, maybe a charity concert
Narupug
Fodder Mostly
+150|5891|Vacationland
You see this is the main why I'm moving to Maine, the teachers are gone half the time because their interviewing for jobs in a different state, the kids all think their the best thing since sliced bread eventhough they can't spell SAT, and I have gone the past four years on four different principles.   I could go on but I'd just be tooting on about what you already know "California schools are shit."
KEN-JENNINGS
I am all that is MOD!
+2,983|6926|949

I am the product of California schooling, from kindergarten through University.  Granted I did go to private school for most of that time. 

You should just leave Califronia ATG.  You obviously hate it so much.
Macbeth
Banned
+2,444|5879

American schools are a wasteland period.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6699|North Carolina
Like I said, we can sell Southern California to Mexico.  It'll save us a lot of money in the long run.
KEN-JENNINGS
I am all that is MOD!
+2,983|6926|949

Turquoise wrote:

Like I said, we can sell Southern California to Mexico.  It'll save us a lot of money in the long run.
It's where the rich people live though.  Listening to ATG you'd think all there is around here are illegal aliens, but that's just not true.  As a matter of fact, that story was about the East Bay.  That would be Oakland.
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6823|Global Command

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

I am the product of California schooling, from kindergarten through University.  Granted I did go to private school for most of that time. 

You should just leave Califronia ATG.  You obviously hate it so much.
Private schools.

Dude, that reminds me of Lowing posting from Iraq, telling us how we should all be financially responsible.

All the hand wringing about the schools is bs without addressing the #1 issue destroying them; it is not the teachers, it is not the administers, it is the abject failure of the federal government in regards to the border. The schools. In California are full of the children of illegal aliens.

Realize that the new healthcare proposal will cover these people too.

And bam, we are in defacto unification with mexico.

America has died, not with a bang, but a whimper.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6699|North Carolina

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

Like I said, we can sell Southern California to Mexico.  It'll save us a lot of money in the long run.
It's where the rich people live though.  Listening to ATG you'd think all there is around here are illegal aliens, but that's just not true.  As a matter of fact, that story was about the East Bay.  That would be Oakland.
True...  Well, I guess the illegals function well as a peasant class for all the cheapskate rich bastards.
blademaster
I'm moving to Brazil
+2,075|6939

Macbeth wrote:

American schools are a wasteland period.
yea but the chicks are hot
KEN-JENNINGS
I am all that is MOD!
+2,983|6926|949

ATG wrote:

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

I am the product of California schooling, from kindergarten through University.  Granted I did go to private school for most of that time. 

You should just leave Califronia ATG.  You obviously hate it so much.
Private schools.

Dude, that reminds me of Lowing posting from Iraq, telling us how we should all be financially responsible.

All the hand wringing about the schools is bs without addressing the #1 issue destroying them; it is not the teachers, it is not the administers, it is the abject failure of the federal government in regards to the border. The schools. In California are full of the children of illegal aliens.

Realize that the new healthcare proposal will cover these people too.

And bam, we are in defacto unification with mexico.

America has died, not with a bang, but a whimper.
The private school I went to was rated worse than the public school I graduated from.  One of the main issues regarding deficiences in the education system here is the adminstrators.  The Superindentent of Capo Valley makes around $400,000 a year.  That is a waste of money.  But feel free to blame illegal immigrants.

Why not blame illegal aliens for financial bailouts and your wonky NWO diatribes too?  It can be a catch-all excuse for you, a simple answer to pull out of your bag for whatever ails you.
LividBovine
The Year of the Cow!
+175|6674|MN

Macbeth wrote:

American schools are a wasteland period.
I disagree.  The school district my kids are in is pretty good.  We have loved the teachers they have had.  Part of that might be due to the fact that we were able to request which teachers they had.
"The President does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation" - Barack Obama (a freshman senator from Illinios)
Hurricane2k9
Pendulous Sweaty Balls
+1,538|5996|College Park, MD
ATG, there was an excellent article on something like this in the Washington Post a few months ago. It was about schools in Virginia's Prince William County and how many of them have tons of ESL students. Let me try and find it.
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Superior Mind
(not macbeth)
+1,755|6987
Still got that job option in PA, Al?
Macbeth
Banned
+2,444|5879

LividBovine wrote:

Macbeth wrote:

American schools are a wasteland period.
I disagree.  The school district my kids are in is pretty good.  We have loved the teachers they have had.  Part of that might be due to the fact that we were able to request which teachers they had.
Hmm from the general posting from high school to entry college level bf2s members you'd get the impression that the U.S. school system is beyond repair.

But congrats at least your kids are doing well, guess that is the most you could hope for nowadays.
=NHB=Shadow
hi
+322|6660|California
Pshhh I graduated from a California High School and i'll be attending UCLA
jsnipy
...
+3,277|6816|...

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

You should just leave Califronia ATG.  You obviously hate it so much.
Seriously. You dollar goes further in the east

I think its such a sweeping statement to make about an entire states' schools. +1 for a clever title though.
Hurricane2k9
Pendulous Sweaty Balls
+1,538|5996|College Park, MD

Macbeth wrote:

LividBovine wrote:

Macbeth wrote:

American schools are a wasteland period.
I disagree.  The school district my kids are in is pretty good.  We have loved the teachers they have had.  Part of that might be due to the fact that we were able to request which teachers they had.
Hmm from the general posting from high school to entry college level bf2s members you'd get the impression that the U.S. school system is beyond repair.

But congrats at least your kids are doing well, guess that is the most you could hope for nowadays.
Yeah, the public schools in DC are shit. But that's only the DC Public School system. The school systems in the DC metro area (Montgomery County, Fairfax County, PG County to an extent, Alexandria, Arlington) are much better for the most part. Hell, the #1 public school in the US is in Alexandria.

And the private schools around here are great... I went to one of the best...
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Catbox
forgiveness
+505|7010
The reality is that Illegal immigration unchecked is a huge factor in the collapse of California... Hollywood is going to write a check and take care of all this i think... I just talked to Sean Penn and he is onboard.   

  The other factor is School Unions and a state over run with liberal ideas... buy it today
and we will figure out a way to pay for it...and now they are 24,000,000,000 in the whole.   

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me … 678.column

just read this... 18 years of welfare for anchor babies? wtf
"Immediately end the 18-year welfare for Anchor babies. Our own citizens don't get it. Why should they? Discontinue all freebie programs for illegals. Close the borders, and enforce the Alien Work Permit Program. Don't allow Work Permits to Aliens who can't afford Medical and Vehicle insurance while here, as well as housing. It sounds tough, because none of them can afford it. And that's the real problem. We cannot, and should not have to continue to pay for all of their needs, while our own tax paying citizens suffer, and are having programs which were designed for them (taxpayers) cut."

and....
"Monied folks will continue to migrate out of Calif. and continue to flock to states with lower personal and business, estate taxes. They will create jobs there and those states will benefit.... and government will have more revenue to run schools, police, hospitals, parks, etc."

Last edited by [TUF]Catbox (2009-06-22 15:50:01)

Love is the answer
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6823|Global Command

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

ATG wrote:

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

I am the product of California schooling, from kindergarten through University.  Granted I did go to private school for most of that time. 

You should just leave Califronia ATG.  You obviously hate it so much.
Private schools.

Dude, that reminds me of Lowing posting from Iraq, telling us how we should all be financially responsible.

All the hand wringing about the schools is bs without addressing the #1 issue destroying them; it is not the teachers, it is not the administers, it is the abject failure of the federal government in regards to the border. The schools. In California are full of the children of illegal aliens.

Realize that the new healthcare proposal will cover these people too.

And bam, we are in defacto unification with mexico.

America has died, not with a bang, but a whimper.
The private school I went to was rated worse than the public school I graduated from.  One of the main issues regarding deficiencies in the education system here is the adminstrators.  The Superindentent of Capo Valley makes around $400,000 a year.  That is a waste of money.  But feel free to blame illegal immigrants.

Why not blame illegal aliens for financial bailouts and your wonky NWO diatribes too?  It can be a catch-all excuse for you, a simple answer to pull out of your bag for whatever ails you.
mmmkay


Why don't you just admit it Ken? People like you see America not as place, but an idea. You somehow think that a country can function with two sets of laws and a vast underground economy. You can't see how a social security system that is already scheduled to go broke will have its pace radically accelerated when tens of millions of citizens formerly known as illegal aliens start sucking on that tit.

Funny how the bleeding hearts and artists beat plowshare to swords without even knowing what they do.
KEN-JENNINGS
I am all that is MOD!
+2,983|6926|949

ATG wrote:

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

ATG wrote:

Private schools.

Dude, that reminds me of Lowing posting from Iraq, telling us how we should all be financially responsible.

All the hand wringing about the schools is bs without addressing the #1 issue destroying them; it is not the teachers, it is not the administers, it is the abject failure of the federal government in regards to the border. The schools. In California are full of the children of illegal aliens.

Realize that the new healthcare proposal will cover these people too.

And bam, we are in defacto unification with mexico.

America has died, not with a bang, but a whimper.
The private school I went to was rated worse than the public school I graduated from.  One of the main issues regarding deficiencies in the education system here is the adminstrators.  The Superindentent of Capo Valley makes around $400,000 a year.  That is a waste of money.  But feel free to blame illegal immigrants.

Why not blame illegal aliens for financial bailouts and your wonky NWO diatribes too?  It can be a catch-all excuse for you, a simple answer to pull out of your bag for whatever ails you.
mmmkay


Why don't you just admit it Ken? People like you see America not as place, but an idea. You somehow think that a country can function with two sets of laws and a vast underground economy. You can't see how a social security system that is already scheduled to go broke will have its pace radically accelerated when tens of millions of citizens formerly known as illegal aliens start sucking on that tit.

Funny how the bleeding hearts and artists beat plowshare to swords without even knowing what they do.
Sorry, Michelle Malkin is an idiot.  Linking an editorial by that dumb windbag isn't going to win you any votes from me.  YOU are the one that hires illegals to work for your company, not me.  YOU are the one that deals in cash so you don't have to pay taxes on it, not me.  YOU are the one who looks for extreme cases and presents that as the normal day-to-day operations of our country/state.  You want "America" to be this place strictly tailor-made to suit your one-dimensional vision of this country, and YOU don't want to take part in the grind until it suits your fancy.

As far as the "America is not a place but an idea", well that's just retarded hyperbole.  I understand and acknowledge the ruling elite largely live and act in a way that is a detriment to the general population, and to this country as a whole.  You just don't see me blaming illegal immigrants for that sad fact.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6699|North Carolina

[TUF]Catbox wrote:

The reality is that Illegal immigration unchecked is a huge factor in the collapse of California... Hollywood is going to write a check and take care of all this i think... I just talked to Sean Penn and he is onboard.   

  The other factor is School Unions and a state over run with liberal ideas... buy it today
and we will figure out a way to pay for it...and now they are 24,000,000,000 in the whole.   

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me … 678.column

just read this... 18 years of welfare for anchor babies? wtf
"Immediately end the 18-year welfare for Anchor babies. Our own citizens don't get it. Why should they? Discontinue all freebie programs for illegals. Close the borders, and enforce the Alien Work Permit Program. Don't allow Work Permits to Aliens who can't afford Medical and Vehicle insurance while here, as well as housing. It sounds tough, because none of them can afford it. And that's the real problem. We cannot, and should not have to continue to pay for all of their needs, while our own tax paying citizens suffer, and are having programs which were designed for them (taxpayers) cut."

and....
"Monied folks will continue to migrate out of Calif. and continue to flock to states with lower personal and business, estate taxes. They will create jobs there and those states will benefit.... and government will have more revenue to run schools, police, hospitals, parks, etc."
Pretty much.

Although, if we're specifically talking schools, I would think it would be both what Ken said and what you're saying.
Catbox
forgiveness
+505|7010
yeah... I am not mad at the illegals... they are just taking advantage of a broken system.
They come here to try and have a better life but we need to have rules and maintain our laws...
Or we get states that are billions and billions of dollar in the whole like Cali... 50 people on a 25 man boat and it sinks.

I have worked with illegals and they are some amazing people who have a work ethic that is amazing...
They should be able to stay  and be given citizenship...
And our lazy citizens can be shipped down to Mexico with 50 bucks and a pack of cigarettes... It's warm down there
and they will love it...

Last edited by [TUF]Catbox (2009-06-22 17:48:17)

Love is the answer
usmarine
Banned
+2,785|7055

speaking of schools...

explain two things:

A) Why do we (the US) go to school WAY less than the rest of the world? i.e summer break

B) Why do teachers make the same money as a lot of people yet work 3/4 of the time as those same people?

Last edited by usmarine (2009-06-22 18:08:07)

S.Lythberg
Mastermind
+429|6741|Chicago, IL

usmarine wrote:

speaking of schools...

explain two things:

A) Why do we (the US) go to school WAY less than the rest of the world? i.e summer break

B) Why do teachers make the same money as a lot of people yet work 3/4 of the time as those same people?
Check the break systems of other countries, they have breaks too.

and our teachers are fairly poorly paid for the amount of work required

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