Catbox
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usmarine wrote:

[TUF]Catbox wrote:

[F7F7]KiNG_KaDaFFHi wrote:

Socialism isn´t by any means perfect, it´s just better then other alternatives....
we can agree to disagree... I may go to Norway/Sweden for work soon, so i will see first hand... one tall blonde chick at a time...lol
go dude.  dont waste your time in this country.  srsly
I love the US... it's the greatest Country in the world... It would only be a week or 2 in Norway which would be fun...

btw...Have you been to the Broadlands pub in Broadlands/Ashburn Va yet marine?
Girls dancing on the bar at night... it gets out of control...lol
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Turquoise
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SealXo wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

Norway clearly has worked as a socialist capitalism.

Norway also proves that it's not an either/or situation.

You can have very competitive markets while still being socialized in public amenities.
norway sucks.
135kUSD for an E350?
worlds most expensive gas?

f no
That's because they get paid more than us.
SealXo
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Turquoise wrote:

SealXo wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

Norway clearly has worked as a socialist capitalism.

Norway also proves that it's not an either/or situation.

You can have very competitive markets while still being socialized in public amenities.
norway sucks.
135kUSD for an E350?
worlds most expensive gas?

f no
That's because they get paid more than us.
The average income in Norway is, according to the report, a staggering USD 36,600. Only
http://www.norway.org/News/archive/2004 … y_undp.htm

for 2008 wrote:

United States      $39,751
http://bber.unm.edu/econ/us-pci.htm
Macbeth
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SealXo wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

SealXo wrote:


norway sucks.
135kUSD for an E350?
worlds most expensive gas?

f no
That's because they get paid more than us.
The average income in Norway is, according to the report, a staggering USD 36,600. Only
http://www.norway.org/News/archive/2004 … y_undp.htm

for 2008 wrote:

United States      $39,751
http://bber.unm.edu/econ/us-pci.htm
That number is pointless unless you have a high standard of living to back it up.
Macbeth
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My bad that last post made no sense. On the Human development index for 2008, Norway was placed second, the U.S. 15th.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Development_Index
SealXo
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Macbeth wrote:

My bad that last post made no sense. On the Human development index for 2008, Norway was placed second, the U.S. 15th.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Development_Index
My happiness wouldn't be very happy if my 40k mercedes cost me 137k and gas was 9.50/g
to each his own i guess.
Macbeth
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SealXo wrote:

Macbeth wrote:

My bad that last post made no sense. On the Human development index for 2008, Norway was placed second, the U.S. 15th.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Development_Index
My happiness wouldn't be very happy if my 40k mercedes cost me 137k and gas was 9.50/g
to each his own i guess.
I drove a 2009 BMW the other day. So fucking want. Anyway I wouldn't mind paying high taxes if I would actually see and benefit from them.
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It's working great for Sweden
.........
the highest standard of living:
Sweden's most affront claim, that it has the world's highest standard of living, is often based on the measure of equality in wealth redistribution, and not on the status of the national economy, the buying power of the Swedish crown (Krona), the amount of people working for productive aims or creating innovations, nor it's Gross National Product. Claims based on these other properties of the Swedish economy, in support of their "highest standard of living" claim, are mysteriously non-existent.


blossoming industry:
Sweden is a great place to start a new business - if you don't plan on being successful. A more lax economic policy in the '90s has increased new startups by 25%, but the economic attitude towards business hasn't changed much since the '70s, where entrepreneurs were treated like pariahs. Ikea founder Ingvar Kamprad told Forbes magazine that the Swedish tax bureaucrats would frequently accuse him of using people and "only wanting profits".


ranks far higher than the United States in most measurements:
The Swedish Institute of Trade reported in 2002 that "the median household income in Sweden at the end of the 1990s was the equivalent of $26,800, compared with a median of $39,400 for U.S. households". If Sweden were introduced to the U.S. as a new state, it would rank as the poorest according to these standards. This is in light of the fact that these numbers are gross values - before taxes - and Sweden has the highest taxes in the world. The same report also shows that Swedes fare lower than the lowest American socio-economic class, working-class black males.

http://www.namyth.com/SocialismWORKS!/i … ?sw=Sweden

Last edited by [TUF]Catbox (2009-06-21 19:01:25)

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usmarine
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my happiness is beer and TV.  but, i guess the people who make those studies and stats know better.

Last edited by usmarine (2009-06-21 19:00:05)

FatherTed
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usmarine wrote:

my happiness is beer and TV.  but, i guess the people who make those studies and stats know better.
thats your one life story, i'd guess not representative of the US as a whole.
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usmarine
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FatherTed wrote:

usmarine wrote:

my happiness is beer and TV.  but, i guess the people who make those studies and stats know better.
thats your one life story, i'd guess not representative of the US as a whole.
thats my point ding dong
Macbeth
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Somebody post the crime rates for the U.S. vs. Sweden. Then later somebody post the amount of Swedes killed in terrorist bombings and killed in foreign wars. Then post the public image of Swedes vs. Americans. Then post the condition of Swedish roads and quality of medical care.

I would be very happy is if I had a high tax rate but didn't have to worry about crime in my city or where I park my car at night or if that pot hole in the street just put a hole in my tire.
FatherTed
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usmarine wrote:

FatherTed wrote:

usmarine wrote:

my happiness is beer and TV.  but, i guess the people who make those studies and stats know better.
thats your one life story, i'd guess not representative of the US as a whole.
thats my point ding dong
is this one of those points where i have to read the thread?
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usmarine
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FatherTed wrote:

usmarine wrote:

FatherTed wrote:


thats your one life story, i'd guess not representative of the US as a whole.
thats my point ding dong
is this one of those points where i have to read the thread?
no....

not at all.  how can a study/poll/stats represent every single person?
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FatherTed wrote:

usmarine wrote:

FatherTed wrote:


thats your one life story, i'd guess not representative of the US as a whole.
thats my point ding dong
is this one of those points where i have to read the thread?
I fuckin' hate those, they're always catching me out.
FatherTed
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usmarine wrote:

FatherTed wrote:

usmarine wrote:


thats my point ding dong
is this one of those points where i have to read the thread?
no....

not at all.  how can a study/poll/stats represent every single person?
sooo, were you being sarcastic before?
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Catbox
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Macbeth wrote:

SealXo wrote:

Macbeth wrote:

My bad that last post made no sense. On the Human development index for 2008, Norway was placed second, the U.S. 15th.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Development_Index
My happiness wouldn't be very happy if my 40k mercedes cost me 137k and gas was 9.50/g
to each his own i guess.
I drove a 2009 BMW the other day. So fucking want. Anyway I wouldn't mind paying high taxes if I would actually see and benefit from them.
You may change your mind when you enter the workforce.... and work hard and see more and more of your money going
to bloated bureaucracies...... you may change your mind...
When you see someone buy their food with food stamps and then walk out to the parkiing
lot and jump in an SUV that you can't afford to buy... maybe then?   I am not against helping those who really need it...
Just the entititlement and scamming that goes on by both the govt/lobbyists and people getting over on the system.

i just read your post above... Do you believe what you post or are you kidding...
You don't mind paying more taxes?   Obama loves you

Last edited by [TUF]Catbox (2009-06-21 19:11:09)

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ghettoperson
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[TUF]Catbox wrote:

Macbeth wrote:

SealXo wrote:


My happiness wouldn't be very happy if my 40k mercedes cost me 137k and gas was 9.50/g
to each his own i guess.
I drove a 2009 BMW the other day. So fucking want. Anyway I wouldn't mind paying high taxes if I would actually see and benefit from them.
You may change your mind when you enter the workforce.... and work hard and see more and more of your money going
to bloated bureaucracies...... you may change your mind...
When you see someone buy their food with food stamps and then walk out to the parkiing
lot and jump in an SUV that you can't afford to buy... maybe then?   I am not against helping those who really need it...
Just the entititlement and scamming that goes on by both the govt/lobbyists and people getting over on the system.
Yeah I would, however that only happens in conservative hyperbole, not real life, so it doesn't bother me.
Catbox
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ghettoperson wrote:

[TUF]Catbox wrote:

Macbeth wrote:


I drove a 2009 BMW the other day. So fucking want. Anyway I wouldn't mind paying high taxes if I would actually see and benefit from them.
You may change your mind when you enter the workforce.... and work hard and see more and more of your money going
to bloated bureaucracies...... you may change your mind...
When you see someone buy their food with food stamps and then walk out to the parkiing
lot and jump in an SUV that you can't afford to buy... maybe then?   I am not against helping those who really need it...
Just the entititlement and scamming that goes on by both the govt/lobbyists and people getting over on the system.
Yeah I would, however that only happens in conservative hyperbole, not real life, so it doesn't bother me.
I've seen it in real life... no hyperbole
Love is the answer
Turquoise
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SealXo wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

SealXo wrote:


norway sucks.
135kUSD for an E350?
worlds most expensive gas?

f no
That's because they get paid more than us.
The average income in Norway is, according to the report, a staggering USD 36,600. Only
http://www.norway.org/News/archive/2004 … y_undp.htm

for 2008 wrote:

United States      $39,751
http://bber.unm.edu/econ/us-pci.htm
My mistake, I was thinking of GDP per capita.  Norway's is higher than us by about $7,000.

Either way, they don't drive as much as us, so it doesn't really affect them as much.
Macbeth
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[TUF]Catbox wrote:

Macbeth wrote:

SealXo wrote:


My happiness wouldn't be very happy if my 40k mercedes cost me 137k and gas was 9.50/g
to each his own i guess.
I drove a 2009 BMW the other day. So fucking want. Anyway I wouldn't mind paying high taxes if I would actually see and benefit from them.
You may change your mind when you enter the workforce.... and work hard and see more and more of your money going
to bloated bureaucracies...... you may change your mind...
When you see someone buy their food with food stamps and then walk out to the parkiing
lot and jump in an SUV that you can't afford to buy... maybe then?   I am not against helping those who really need it...
Just the entititlement and scamming that goes on by both the govt/lobbyists and people getting over on the system.
I am in the fucking work force. I work 9-5 every weekday to get my ass through college. I do see how much money they take out of my paycheck. So don't give me that "when you join the real world" trip. I'm saying that basically if I had a choice between paying the taxes I have now and not getting shit for it, like high crime rates and alike, or paying higher taxes and be able to not worry about getting car jacked or mugged if I go out to pick up my girlfriend then fuck I would choose high taxes.
ghettoperson
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So please explain then - I don't know how the US system works, but in the UK you get about 100 pounds per week for a family - how exactly you buy an SUV with 100 pounds per week?
[F7F7]KiNG_KaDaFFHi
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Well yeah it works kinda good for us, it´s not that far to Sweden from Norway, hell if you come visit i´ll even buy the beer, where in Norway is this work taking place?

As I previously said it´s not a perfect system, no system is, but in the lack of better options...

Most systems can be used the wrong way.

And good points Macbeth....
Turquoise
O Canada
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[TUF]Catbox wrote:

It's working great for Sweden
.........
the highest standard of living:
Sweden's most affront claim, that it has the world's highest standard of living, is often based on the measure of equality in wealth redistribution, and not on the status of the national economy, the buying power of the Swedish crown (Krona), the amount of people working for productive aims or creating innovations, nor it's Gross National Product. Claims based on these other properties of the Swedish economy, in support of their "highest standard of living" claim, are mysteriously non-existent.


blossoming industry:
Sweden is a great place to start a new business - if you don't plan on being successful. A more lax economic policy in the '90s has increased new startups by 25%, but the economic attitude towards business hasn't changed much since the '70s, where entrepreneurs were treated like pariahs. Ikea founder Ingvar Kamprad told Forbes magazine that the Swedish tax bureaucrats would frequently accuse him of using people and "only wanting profits".


ranks far higher than the United States in most measurements:
The Swedish Institute of Trade reported in 2002 that "the median household income in Sweden at the end of the 1990s was the equivalent of $26,800, compared with a median of $39,400 for U.S. households". If Sweden were introduced to the U.S. as a new state, it would rank as the poorest according to these standards. This is in light of the fact that these numbers are gross values - before taxes - and Sweden has the highest taxes in the world. The same report also shows that Swedes fare lower than the lowest American socio-economic class, working-class black males.

http://www.namyth.com/SocialismWORKS!/i … ?sw=Sweden
Gee, that's not a biased source....
Catbox
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Macbeth wrote:

[TUF]Catbox wrote:

Macbeth wrote:


I drove a 2009 BMW the other day. So fucking want. Anyway I wouldn't mind paying high taxes if I would actually see and benefit from them.
You may change your mind when you enter the workforce.... and work hard and see more and more of your money going
to bloated bureaucracies...... you may change your mind...
When you see someone buy their food with food stamps and then walk out to the parkiing
lot and jump in an SUV that you can't afford to buy... maybe then?   I am not against helping those who really need it...
Just the entititlement and scamming that goes on by both the govt/lobbyists and people getting over on the system.
I am in the fucking work force. I work 9-5 every weekday to get my ass through college. I do see how much money they take out of my paycheck. So don't give me that "when you join the real world" trip. I'm saying that basically if I had a choice between paying the taxes I have now and not getting shit for it, like high crime rates and alike, or paying higher taxes and be able to not worry about getting car jacked or mugged if I go out to pick up my girlfriend then fuck I would choose high taxes.
I thought you were younger... forgive me and switch to decaf...
If you think paying more taxes will make you safer somehow than i say good for you...
I am sending extra tax money in so i will be safe also... thanks for the tip
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