Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5579|London, England

RDMC wrote:

jord wrote:

RDMC wrote:


Ye imagine that. 2 planes per side and possibly 32 portable AA guns.
The entire enemy team isn't going to all go AA to take down a jet or 2. Give them a shitty sidearm like an MP7 so they can't be effective an infantry.

Again, there's no reason there can't be a balance between fair and fun.
Well keeping in mind that jets needed 3 hits, however you want to increase the damage, thus 2 hits is required.

A squad of 6 as BF2 had them: 2 AT, 2 AA, 1 medic, 1 support and you can take on the entire map. Planes would not stand a chance, tanks would not stand a chance and neither would infantry..

Little OP if you ask me.
You're fucking retarded.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
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RDMC
Enemy Wheelbarrow Spotted..!!
+736|6786|Area 51

Jay wrote:

RDMC wrote:

jord wrote:


The entire enemy team isn't going to all go AA to take down a jet or 2. Give them a shitty sidearm like an MP7 so they can't be effective an infantry.

Again, there's no reason there can't be a balance between fair and fun.
Well keeping in mind that jets needed 3 hits, however you want to increase the damage, thus 2 hits is required.

A squad of 6 as BF2 had them: 2 AT, 2 AA, 1 medic, 1 support and you can take on the entire map. Planes would not stand a chance, tanks would not stand a chance and neither would infantry..

Little OP if you ask me.
You're fucking retarded.
Your mom is fucking retarded.
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5579|London, England

RDMC wrote:

Jay wrote:

RDMC wrote:

Well keeping in mind that jets needed 3 hits, however you want to increase the damage, thus 2 hits is required.

A squad of 6 as BF2 had them: 2 AT, 2 AA, 1 medic, 1 support and you can take on the entire map. Planes would not stand a chance, tanks would not stand a chance and neither would infantry..

Little OP if you ask me.
You're fucking retarded.
Your mom is fucking retarded.
You think everyone is going to run around with an AA pack just to fuck with you? How self absorbed are you? If you're doing well in an airplane and people notice it, yes, they will probably switch to AA to shoot you down (just like a lot of people switch to sniper after they get sniped). The rest of the time they'll be going about their business like normal. How on earth is that either bad or imbalanced?

Are you one of those retards that thought going 50-0 on air maps was balanced? If you are, you better stick with BF2 because it's never gonna happen again.

Last edited by Jay (2011-04-18 12:50:18)

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
RDMC
Enemy Wheelbarrow Spotted..!!
+736|6786|Area 51

Jay wrote:

RDMC wrote:

Jay wrote:


You're fucking retarded.
Your mom is fucking retarded.
You think everyone is going to run around with an AA pack just to fuck with you? How self absorbed are you? If you're doing well in an airplane and people notice it, yes, they will probably switch to AA to shoot you down. How on earth is that either bad or imbalanced?

Are you one of those retards that thought going 50-0 on air maps was balanced? If you are, you better stick with BF2 because it's never gonna happen again.
No I wasn't one of those going 50-0 on air maps and thinking it was balanced.  But just try and imagine wake island, both tips of the island loaded with shoulder fired AA.
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5579|London, England

RDMC wrote:

Jay wrote:

RDMC wrote:


Your mom is fucking retarded.
You think everyone is going to run around with an AA pack just to fuck with you? How self absorbed are you? If you're doing well in an airplane and people notice it, yes, they will probably switch to AA to shoot you down. How on earth is that either bad or imbalanced?

Are you one of those retards that thought going 50-0 on air maps was balanced? If you are, you better stick with BF2 because it's never gonna happen again.
No I wasn't one of those going 50-0 on air maps and thinking it was balanced.  But just try and imagine wake island, both tips of the island loaded with shoulder fired AA.
Then they'd be useless against boat assault now wouldn't they.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
DrunkFace
Germans did 911
+427|6902|Disaster Free Zone

Jay wrote:

RDMC wrote:

Jay wrote:


You're fucking retarded.
Your mom is fucking retarded.
You think everyone is going to run around with an AA pack just to fuck with you? How self absorbed are you? If you're doing well in an airplane and people notice it, yes, they will probably switch to AA to shoot you down (just like a lot of people switch to sniper after they get sniped). The rest of the time they'll be going about their business like normal. How on earth is that either bad or imbalanced?

Are you one of those retards that thought going 50-0 on air maps was balanced? If you are, you better stick with BF2 because it's never gonna happen again.
I've gone 50-0 in a tank, and been pretty close on foot too. Does that make tanks and infantry unbalanced too?
RDMC
Enemy Wheelbarrow Spotted..!!
+736|6786|Area 51

Jay wrote:

RDMC wrote:

Jay wrote:


You think everyone is going to run around with an AA pack just to fuck with you? How self absorbed are you? If you're doing well in an airplane and people notice it, yes, they will probably switch to AA to shoot you down. How on earth is that either bad or imbalanced?

Are you one of those retards that thought going 50-0 on air maps was balanced? If you are, you better stick with BF2 because it's never gonna happen again.
No I wasn't one of those going 50-0 on air maps and thinking it was balanced.  But just try and imagine wake island, both tips of the island loaded with shoulder fired AA.
Then they'd be useless against boat assault now wouldn't they.
Yep. Tanks aren't though.
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5579|London, England

DrunkFace wrote:

Jay wrote:

RDMC wrote:


Your mom is fucking retarded.
You think everyone is going to run around with an AA pack just to fuck with you? How self absorbed are you? If you're doing well in an airplane and people notice it, yes, they will probably switch to AA to shoot you down (just like a lot of people switch to sniper after they get sniped). The rest of the time they'll be going about their business like normal. How on earth is that either bad or imbalanced?

Are you one of those retards that thought going 50-0 on air maps was balanced? If you are, you better stick with BF2 because it's never gonna happen again.
I've gone 50-0 in a tank, and been pretty close on foot too. Does that make tanks and infantry unbalanced too?
It just makes you a basement dwelling no-life fagot but we already knew that.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
DrunkFace
Germans did 911
+427|6902|Disaster Free Zone

Jay wrote:

DrunkFace wrote:

Jay wrote:


You think everyone is going to run around with an AA pack just to fuck with you? How self absorbed are you? If you're doing well in an airplane and people notice it, yes, they will probably switch to AA to shoot you down (just like a lot of people switch to sniper after they get sniped). The rest of the time they'll be going about their business like normal. How on earth is that either bad or imbalanced?

Are you one of those retards that thought going 50-0 on air maps was balanced? If you are, you better stick with BF2 because it's never gonna happen again.
I've gone 50-0 in a tank, and been pretty close on foot too. Does that make tanks and infantry unbalanced too?
It just makes you a basement dwelling no-life fagot but we already knew that.
So much love.
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Russian warship, go fuck yourself
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The only people that complain about jet imbalance are the same people that spawn > get in vehicle > go to spot > die > respawn > get in vehicle > go to spot > die. Jets weren't hard to destroy, each team had a jet. If you keep dying by a jet, you're probably doing something wrong. You can't punish a pilot for being effective on what he does because he's doing what jets where designed to do.

I hardly ever got killed by a jet Helicopters I always got owned by, but you just fix that by making splash damage smaller. They were very fragile once you got a hold of them.
Ilocano
buuuurrrrrrppppp.......
+341|6888

Adams_BJ wrote:

The only people that complain about jet imbalance are the same people that spawn > get in vehicle > go to spot > die > respawn > get in vehicle > go to spot > die. Jets weren't hard to destroy, each team had a jet. If you keep dying by a jet, you're probably doing something wrong. You can't punish a pilot for being effective on what he does because he's doing what jets where designed to do.

I hardly ever got killed by a jet Helicopters I always got owned by, but you just fix that by making splash damage smaller. They were very fragile once you got a hold of them.
In a game where airplanes have this built-in hack called vehicle esp.  And for some odd reason, mobile AA lacks any sort of radar.  Make AA radar work and make only spotted vehicles clearly tagged and many of these imbalance complaints would go away.
Adams_BJ
Russian warship, go fuck yourself
+2,054|6844|Little Bentcock

Ilocano wrote:

Adams_BJ wrote:

The only people that complain about jet imbalance are the same people that spawn > get in vehicle > go to spot > die > respawn > get in vehicle > go to spot > die. Jets weren't hard to destroy, each team had a jet. If you keep dying by a jet, you're probably doing something wrong. You can't punish a pilot for being effective on what he does because he's doing what jets where designed to do.

I hardly ever got killed by a jet Helicopters I always got owned by, but you just fix that by making splash damage smaller. They were very fragile once you got a hold of them.
In a game where airplanes have this built-in hack called vehicle esp.  And for some odd reason, mobile AA lacks any sort of radar.  Make AA radar work and make only spotted vehicles clearly tagged and many of these imbalance complaints would go away.
Couldn't you only see air vehicles when in missile mode and the only way you could see ground vehicles was by your team spotting them and looking on the map? I can't remember its been so long and I was never much for jets.

I'm pretty sure unless you had guided bombs land vehicles didn't show up on the hud, same as when fighting a jet if in bomb mode they didn't show up on your hud
HaiBai
Your thoughts, insights, and musings on this matter intrigue me
+304|5705|Bolingbrook, Illinois

RDMC wrote:

jord wrote:

RDMC wrote:


Ye imagine that. 2 planes per side and possibly 32 portable AA guns.
The entire enemy team isn't going to all go AA to take down a jet or 2. Give them a shitty sidearm like an MP7 so they can't be effective an infantry.

Again, there's no reason there can't be a balance between fair and fun.
Well keeping in mind that jets needed 3 hits, however you want to increase the damage, thus 2 hits is required.

A squad of 6 as BF2 had them: 2 AT, 2 AA, 1 medic, 1 support and you can take on the entire map. Planes would not stand a chance, tanks would not stand a chance and neither would infantry..

Little OP if you ask me.
so what?  if teammates actually decide to be so teamwork oriented, they deserve to be rewarded.  this is when your team should create its own squad filled with medics, assault and support to take out the other squad.
HaiBai
Your thoughts, insights, and musings on this matter intrigue me
+304|5705|Bolingbrook, Illinois

Adams_BJ wrote:

Ilocano wrote:

Adams_BJ wrote:

The only people that complain about jet imbalance are the same people that spawn > get in vehicle > go to spot > die > respawn > get in vehicle > go to spot > die. Jets weren't hard to destroy, each team had a jet. If you keep dying by a jet, you're probably doing something wrong. You can't punish a pilot for being effective on what he does because he's doing what jets where designed to do.

I hardly ever got killed by a jet Helicopters I always got owned by, but you just fix that by making splash damage smaller. They were very fragile once you got a hold of them.
In a game where airplanes have this built-in hack called vehicle esp.  And for some odd reason, mobile AA lacks any sort of radar.  Make AA radar work and make only spotted vehicles clearly tagged and many of these imbalance complaints would go away.
Couldn't you only see air vehicles when in missile mode and the only way you could see ground vehicles was by your team spotting them and looking on the map? I can't remember its been so long and I was never much for jets.

I'm pretty sure unless you had guided bombs land vehicles didn't show up on the hud, same as when fighting a jet if in bomb mode they didn't show up on your hud
every plane had a bombing mode, and every occupied vehicle showed up on the bombing HUD.
.:ronin:.|Patton
Respekct dad i love u always
+946|7030|Marathon, Florida Keys

HaiBai wrote:

Little BaBy JESUS wrote:

.:ronin:.|Patton wrote:


bf2=/=bc2 i want all the good things from bf2 1.00-1.12 made shiny and turned into BF3 no BC2 carl gustav bullshit
What's the point of having the same game with better graphics? So much for "reskinning" a game being a bad thing, it sounds like that is exactly what you want...
that would be awesome

bf2 with the frostbite engine, better graphics, better hitreg, a bunch of new maps, fixed bugs, and more weapons and vehicles and factions is the perfect bf3.
thank you for not being an idiot, thats exactly what i was going for.

I said all the GOOD parts of BF2, not ALL of bf2 i dont want G36e nooblet guns and ICBM grenades+aimbot instadeath AA
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.:ronin:.|Patton
Respekct dad i love u always
+946|7030|Marathon, Florida Keys

CC-Marley wrote:

Some pilots were overpowered.
i wish i still had my 102-0 dragon valley J10 screenshot
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Ilocano
buuuurrrrrrppppp.......
+341|6888

.:ronin:.|Patton wrote:

HaiBai wrote:

Little BaBy JESUS wrote:


What's the point of having the same game with better graphics? So much for "reskinning" a game being a bad thing, it sounds like that is exactly what you want...
that would be awesome

bf2 with the frostbite engine, better graphics, better hitreg, a bunch of new maps, fixed bugs, and more weapons and vehicles and factions is the perfect bf3.
thank you for not being an idiot, thats exactly what i was going for.

I said all the GOOD parts of BF2, not ALL of bf2 i dont want G36e nooblet guns and ICBM grenades+aimbot instadeath AA
Well. according to the SP video, EA/DICE recommends using rockets to take out lone snipers, just like we used to on BF2.
.:ronin:.|Patton
Respekct dad i love u always
+946|7030|Marathon, Florida Keys

Jay wrote:

People bitch about changes in video games. The sun rises in the east and sets in the west. It could be something as inconsequential as the developers moving a single tree on a map and there will be certain people whose entire game was predicated on hiding behind that tree and they will bitch. The bitches simply need to be ignored because you sure as shit can't please everyone, let alone the professional whiners that dominate video game forums.
I had to learn bf2 over and over and over again.

When they removed jumping and shooting, i played like redux from code 7 (watch duck&cover), had to completely relearn everything. Shit sucked. And the times when they slowly limited every aspect like not being able to sprint while your stamina bar was in deep red, prone spamming removal, no shooting while standing up. I quit a few months after 1.41 but tried 1.5 when it came out and the whole bf2142 accuracy shit when you go prone made me quit after 20 hours. It's not that i could not adapt to it i just got fucking sick of the game being dumbed down more and more and made slower and easier, people turning from using guns to throwing grenades and claymores everywhere. Most people who flew jets crashed into the ground on bombing runs, good players could dominate the sky only getting shot down by another good pilot...the way it should be. Then they made the rotating chairs with a 20 second respawn time and way to accurate rockets able for any idiot who just bought the game to shoot down the most experienced jet/chopper pilot. Gay gay gay gay. Getting locked onto by AA turned from "oh look a free target" to patch 1.3 "you are gonna die and theres nothing you can do to avoid it". I whined on forums because OF the changes, not because i wanted change. Unlike most people i was happy with the original game and it pissed me the fuck off getting further and further away from what it was out of the box over time.

Whats funny is the noobs loved these changes
The same fucking noobs that cried for the changes because they got raped with a sandpaper condom by the few good players of this game
And when they got their changes they told the good players who were mad from the nerfs "adapt or die"
Hypocritical bastards telling people to stop crying when they themselves were crying months earlier on forums.
These people who got less than 1 KDR telling me to stfu and adapt when i had at least a 5-6 on the ground and 40+ in the air
Games nowdays come this way out of the box, i just don't want bf3 to be that way, i'd like it to be as good as 1.00-1.12 which IMO was the best game ever made, but the more and more i think about it i come to realize its not, just gonna be another short lived game to keep me preoccupied for a while at best.
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.:ronin:.|Patton
Respekct dad i love u always
+946|7030|Marathon, Florida Keys

Ilocano wrote:

.:ronin:.|Patton wrote:

HaiBai wrote:


that would be awesome

bf2 with the frostbite engine, better graphics, better hitreg, a bunch of new maps, fixed bugs, and more weapons and vehicles and factions is the perfect bf3.
thank you for not being an idiot, thats exactly what i was going for.

I said all the GOOD parts of BF2, not ALL of bf2 i dont want G36e nooblet guns and ICBM grenades+aimbot instadeath AA
Well. according to the SP video, EA/DICE recommends using rockets to take out lone snipers, just like we used to on BF2.
psh do what you gotta do to take out a sniper i hate those fucks
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Ilocano
buuuurrrrrrppppp.......
+341|6888

.:ronin:.|Patton wrote:

Ilocano wrote:

.:ronin:.|Patton wrote:


thank you for not being an idiot, thats exactly what i was going for.

I said all the GOOD parts of BF2, not ALL of bf2 i dont want G36e nooblet guns and ICBM grenades+aimbot instadeath AA
Well. according to the SP video, EA/DICE recommends using rockets to take out lone snipers, just like we used to on BF2.
psh do what you gotta do to take out a sniper i hate those fucks
Thing is, EA/DICE is selling rockets as these powerful weapons that could blow up multiple floors of a building, working as an effective weapon against a lone sniper that is hard to kill using other conventional weapons.  But yet, according to the anti-CG groups, don't make it work that way on MP. If jets are the top of the vehicle food chain and should be that way, why can't something like the CG also be at the top of the anti-infantry food chain since it was designed to be.

Remember the BF2 title movie, with the rock-paper-scissor theme they were going for?  All parts worked well, until they got to the AA versus fighter part.  When was the last time you ever saw AA that effective against a full health aircraft?
.:ronin:.|Patton
Respekct dad i love u always
+946|7030|Marathon, Florida Keys

Ilocano wrote:

If jets are the top of the vehicle food chain and should be that way, why can't something like the CG also be at the top of the anti-infantry food chain since it was designed to be.
Because there was only 1-2 jets per team. Everyone can have a CG. Everyone uses the CG=Explosivefield3=fucking dumb
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Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5579|London, England

.:ronin:.|Patton wrote:

Jay wrote:

People bitch about changes in video games. The sun rises in the east and sets in the west. It could be something as inconsequential as the developers moving a single tree on a map and there will be certain people whose entire game was predicated on hiding behind that tree and they will bitch. The bitches simply need to be ignored because you sure as shit can't please everyone, let alone the professional whiners that dominate video game forums.
I had to learn bf2 over and over and over again.

When they removed jumping and shooting, i played like redux from code 7 (watch duck&cover), had to completely relearn everything. Shit sucked. And the times when they slowly limited every aspect like not being able to sprint while your stamina bar was in deep red, prone spamming removal, no shooting while standing up. I quit a few months after 1.41 but tried 1.5 when it came out and the whole bf2142 accuracy shit when you go prone made me quit after 20 hours. It's not that i could not adapt to it i just got fucking sick of the game being dumbed down more and more and made slower and easier, people turning from using guns to throwing grenades and claymores everywhere. Most people who flew jets crashed into the ground on bombing runs, good players could dominate the sky only getting shot down by another good pilot...the way it should be. Then they made the rotating chairs with a 20 second respawn time and way to accurate rockets able for any idiot who just bought the game to shoot down the most experienced jet/chopper pilot. Gay gay gay gay. Getting locked onto by AA turned from "oh look a free target" to patch 1.3 "you are gonna die and theres nothing you can do to avoid it". I whined on forums because OF the changes, not because i wanted change. Unlike most people i was happy with the original game and it pissed me the fuck off getting further and further away from what it was out of the box over time.

Whats funny is the noobs loved these changes
The same fucking noobs that cried for the changes because they got raped with a sandpaper condom by the few good players of this game
And when they got their changes they told the good players who were mad from the nerfs "adapt or die"
Hypocritical bastards telling people to stop crying when they themselves were crying months earlier on forums.
These people who got less than 1 KDR telling me to stfu and adapt when i had at least a 5-6 on the ground and 40+ in the air
Games nowdays come this way out of the box, i just don't want bf3 to be that way, i'd like it to be as good as 1.00-1.12 which IMO was the best game ever made, but the more and more i think about it i come to realize its not, just gonna be another short lived game to keep me preoccupied for a while at best.
Jesus wept. All this post told me is that you need to get a life.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
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Doctor Strangelove
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+1,758|6689

.:ronin:.|Patton wrote:

Jay wrote:

People bitch about changes in video games. The sun rises in the east and sets in the west. It could be something as inconsequential as the developers moving a single tree on a map and there will be certain people whose entire game was predicated on hiding behind that tree and they will bitch. The bitches simply need to be ignored because you sure as shit can't please everyone, let alone the professional whiners that dominate video game forums.
I had to learn bf2 over and over and over again.

When they removed jumping and shooting, i played like redux from code 7 (watch duck&cover), had to completely relearn everything. Shit sucked. And the times when they slowly limited every aspect like not being able to sprint while your stamina bar was in deep red, prone spamming removal, no shooting while standing up. I quit a few months after 1.41 but tried 1.5 when it came out and the whole bf2142 accuracy shit when you go prone made me quit after 20 hours. It's not that i could not adapt to it i just got fucking sick of the game being dumbed down more and more and made slower and easier, people turning from using guns to throwing grenades and claymores everywhere. Most people who flew jets crashed into the ground on bombing runs, good players could dominate the sky only getting shot down by another good pilot...the way it should be. Then they made the rotating chairs with a 20 second respawn time and way to accurate rockets able for any idiot who just bought the game to shoot down the most experienced jet/chopper pilot. Gay gay gay gay. Getting locked onto by AA turned from "oh look a free target" to patch 1.3 "you are gonna die and theres nothing you can do to avoid it". I whined on forums because OF the changes, not because i wanted change. Unlike most people i was happy with the original game and it pissed me the fuck off getting further and further away from what it was out of the box over time.

Whats funny is the noobs loved these changes
The same fucking noobs that cried for the changes because they got raped with a sandpaper condom by the few good players of this game
And when they got their changes they told the good players who were mad from the nerfs "adapt or die"
Hypocritical bastards telling people to stop crying when they themselves were crying months earlier on forums.
These people who got less than 1 KDR telling me to stfu and adapt when i had at least a 5-6 on the ground and 40+ in the air
Games nowdays come this way out of the box, i just don't want bf3 to be that way, i'd like it to be as good as 1.00-1.12 which IMO was the best game ever made, but the more and more i think about it i come to realize its not, just gonna be another short lived game to keep me preoccupied for a while at best.
I liked the game more when there were more exploitable shit.
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5579|London, England
!!!News Flash for the Basement Dwellers!!!

Games are not designed to be played for sixty hours a week. Cry all you want about games being dumbed down for casual audiences but every single game on the market is ultimately designed for them. This is the way it should be because they are the ones paying the bills. If you want to be 'hardcore' and 'pro' go make yet another mod for CS and jerk off with your two cyberspace buddies.

I too used to be a basement dwelling no-life at one point in my past. I grew up. Maybe one day you will too and then you will finally see how retarded it was to waste your life on video games 24/7.

!!!Transmission Complete!!!
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
Macbeth
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Jay wrote:

I too used to be a basement dwelling no-life at one point in my past. I grew up.
Sure you did.

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