Dilbert_X wrote:
And there is a whole lot more which wasn't photographed.
And this is an unprovable, unquantifiable assumtion, that you take as pure fact. I have no doubt there were other instances than the ones caught on camera, but I do not think it to be as prevailant as you hint at and assume. And, having been there, I actually take it as a personal insult to the honor and integrity of me, the units I was with, and my fellow veterens. It is due to remarks like this (and others you have made for the last few months) why I no longer take
any argument from you seriously, and I put you in the same catagory as rammunition. This is just the one that ticked me off for the last time.
On topic (and now ignoring obvious prejudice of others here) these are despicable acts, and it will be most humorous when the vidoes are used to convict these sickos. Nobody claimed these folks were angels, but it would be interesting to know if these were from regular army, army reserve, or national guard units. Having been both national guard and active duty, I have noted the differences in discipline. Reserve and guard units can have members whose... habits may go without notice, since they are actually not with their units in civilian life most of the time. Habits that may have been noticed in active duty units.
There have been lots of lapses in active military units over the years as well. Whether it was neo-natzis proliferating in the 82nd at Fort Bragg or the Crips and Bloods dominating the units at Fort Lewis, there have always been discipline issues in the military in any unit. This does not make them authorized, or mean that the illegal activities they may conduct are condoned. The important part is that justice is sought under the UCMJ when these violations present themselves. This must be done to show the service, the american public, and yes, the media, that while the military is not full of saints, that they are able to police themselves and hold the service in the regard it is due, and not treated like the scum they are often portrayed as.
