Camp Freddie
Member
+0|6715
Here are the new weapon stats from the patch in a big-ass table I made.
Feel free to use this to update the UBAR wiki thing.

http://www.geocities.com/transmissionuk/index.htm#bf2
CrimsonFury
Member
+1|6780

AHXtreme42 wrote:

Anyways, alot of controversy I think over the Special Forces Army Ribbons. I believe the requirements are:
-25h in a certain army
-All levels that include the army are played. (This might mean you might have to actually be that army as well.)
I got my spetznaz ribbon when I only had 20 hours with that army (I had just passed 50 hours in theatre for Spetznaz when I got it, which many others are reporting for the SF service ribbons).

I checked my Rebel time in theatre (only just noticed BF2S lists that now) and its actaully less than 46 not over 50 like I thought (forgot that 1 spteznaz map does not have rebels). So based on that I think the requirements are

Time in theatre for army 50 hours
Every map played for that army (it states this on the award description in BFHQ)
5hrs played with that army: I'm assuming that BF2S got this right, although most people will have a lot higher hours with the army when they receive this due to the 50 hour time in theatre (unless that player always switches to a certain side during rounds).
voltage
Member
+46|6841|Sweden
I saw the UBAR weapons table hade been updated. The P90 and L96A1 are listed as "Unl.EF". Is this correct? Because as I understood it they were unlocks to SF and SF only. The new weapons in EF will not be unlocks as far as I know. Although I would like to be proven wrong because I don't SF but might get EF.
IBKCKNURASS
Corrosion Inhibitor
+172|6738

voltage wrote:

I saw the UBAR weapons table hade been updated. The P90 and L96A1 are listed as "Unl.EF". Is this correct? Because as I understood it they were unlocks to SF and SF only. The new weapons in EF will not be unlocks as far as I know. Although I would like to be proven wrong because I don't SF but might get EF.
thier EF unlocks mainly cause EF is the only mod that uses the unlocks in game, same way Sf uses the sf unlocks in game. they should have been for sf but they waited so long to release them.
CrimsonFury
Member
+1|6780
The P90 and L96A1 are SF unlocks (I have them both already). The are also in EuroForce but not as unlocks, they are standard weapons for the EuroArmy in Euroforce.

Euroforce is not going to have any unlocks, this was already discussed in an Interview with some EA guys (IIRC the review is on totalbf2.com). They said that due to memory limiations they can't add any more unlocks to the game unless the coders can find a new way to handle unlocks (which they said won't be done in time for the first 2 booster packs).
=Robin-Hood=
A stranger in the dark
+213|6822|Belgium

What's in a name...

They are available as a SF unlock (like unlock nr 2) but were dessigned for EF and are used as the normal equipment for the EF army.

So they are Unl_SF, Unl_EF ... unlock2,

I believe all three are correct... but, you can only use them when you have SF.

I changed some more in the tabel and now it is unlock2, thanks Camp Freddie ;-)

Cheers,
R
Ali
Official Hell Bound Turbo Action Club Member
+17|6710|Gütersloh, Germany
2nd Lieutenant

Requirements:

    * Rank: First Sergeant
    * Score: 60,000


First Sergeant? Is it a mistake and the required rank ist Master Sergeant or can't you make the officer ranks when you didn't make First Sergeant?

Last edited by Ali (2006-02-16 05:37:33)

Buffnuggles
Member
+11|6734|The Hague, Netherlands
Here are a few more corrections:

Sergeant Major: requirements Master Sergeant or First Sergeant and the needed Awards.
If you don't have these needed Awards, you become Master Gunnery Sergeant.

It's just like the Gunnery Sergeant.
If you don't have the needed Awards, you become Master Sergeant instead of First Sergeant.

Master Gunnery Sergeant: requirements Master Sergeant or First Sergeant.

Sergeant Major of the Corps: Master Sergeant or First Sergeant

2nd LT: Master Gunnery Sergeant or Sergeant Major

Correct me if I'm doing wrong, maybe I don't see it
RDMC_old
Member
+0|6737|Almere, Holland

Krauser98 wrote:

We get a lot of posts here about the details in UBAR.  While none of the BF2s.com staff claim to be perfect (except B.Schuss, but he is German, so it might be true) they have conducted extensive research on the subjects of badges, ribbons, medals, ranking, and the like.  If you think something has been mistakenly placed in UBAR or if you think the requirements may be wrong, this is the place to let them know (in an adult fashion) what exactly the problem is.  Make sure you know what you’re talking about and not basing your opinion off another site or a glitch in the game.  Otherwise, your post and subsequent replies will end up like a Black Hawk with me at the wheel and the replies riding in the back…
Well I havent found anything wrong yet so.. keep up the good work!
Shin_Seffron
Member
+2|6654
Take a look at  BlaZiN.uk's profile....

Next Rank: Brigadier General
100%
Score: 346,136 of 180,000. At your historical rate, you should earn 0 in 0 days (or 00:00:00 straight).

Next Rank: Major General
100%
Score: 346,136 of 180,000. At your historical rate, you should earn 0 in 0 days (or 00:00:00 straight).
notorious
Nay vee, bay bee.
+1,396|6748|The United Center

Shin_Seffron wrote:

Take a look at  BlaZiN.uk's profile....

Next Rank: Brigadier General
100%
Score: 346,136 of 180,000. At your historical rate, you should earn 0 in 0 days (or 00:00:00 straight).

Next Rank: Major General
100%
Score: 346,136 of 180,000. At your historical rate, you should earn 0 in 0 days (or 00:00:00 straight).
your point?

he has the scores, but not the badges.
tvmissleman
The Cereal Killer
+201|6659| United States of America

roguegeneral wrote:

The crieteria for the MID EAST RIBBON and FAR EAST RIBBON
I'm a little suprised no one still doesn't know the criteria for these awards.The generic criteria is time in theater and time in service.
I have played all the maps from all sides= time in theater.Time in service the real requirement  is 250 hours global. I recieved both ribbons after  I hit the 250hr mark... I play karkand all the time was checking stats and saw the new ribbon i got mid east ribbon. That was the weekend I hit 250 hrs globally. I went and played 1 china map I received the far east ribbon. Neither ribbon showed in the game I think  or I wasn't paying attention but they were in my stats once the round ended...

Criteria
Mid East ribbon
250hrs global=time in service
MEC map rotation= time in theater

Far East Ribbon
250hrs global=time in service
China map rotation=time in theater

the requirements for time in theater is just a total of playing the maps not how long just that u have played them once  I think...
I suspect these are correct and would like credit for these ribbons since  u have no info on these as of yet..

Thks,
HkD|RogueGeneral
i got it when i was a private first class, bolth of them
wannabe_tank_whore
Member
+5|6778
The 2 new unlocks (L96A1 and P90) are from the patch - 1.2.  Not Euro Forces.
maef
Member
+67|6684|Tulln, Austria

tvmissleman wrote:

roguegeneral wrote:

The crieteria for the MID EAST RIBBON and FAR EAST RIBBON
i got it when i was a private first class, bolth of them
yep, me too. got them pretty early. i got them a looong time ago and i'm still far away from 250 hours global playtime. im at about 170 hours overall right now.
atlvolunteer
PKMMMMMMMMMM
+27|6772|Atlanta, GA USA
I don't know if this is the right place to post this, but...
I was looking at the weapon data in the Wiki, and some of the deviation information looks incorrect.
1. The Shot Deviation now matches the Min Deviation.  According to another site (which may be wrong) most of the shot deviations didn't change with the patch, but according to the Wiki, they all did.
2. The max deviation for the LMGs, particularly the HK21(5) and the MG36(10), looks incorrect.
Can you verify that these are correct?
Thx
=Robin-Hood=
A stranger in the dark
+213|6822|Belgium

atlvolunteer wrote:

According to another site (which may be wrong) most of the shot deviations didn't change with the patch, but according to the Wiki, they all did.
Can you elaborate on your source?

(unless it is http://www.bf2player.com , which has decent info, but do not show the max dev)

atlvolunteer wrote:

2. The max deviation for the LMGs, particularly the HK21(5) and the MG36(10), looks incorrect.
Can you verify that these are correct?
Thx
Verified, according to this source it is correct...

edit: but the min dev added per shot is wrong... I'll have to update that.
Cheers,
R

Ps.: Nice to see that someone noticed

Last edited by =Robin-Hood= (2006-02-16 16:22:35)

atlvolunteer
PKMMMMMMMMMM
+27|6772|Atlanta, GA USA

=Robin-Hood= wrote:

atlvolunteer wrote:

According to another site (which may be wrong) most of the shot deviations didn't change with the patch, but according to the Wiki, they all did.
Can you elaborate on your source?

(unless it is http://www.bf2player.com , which has decent info, but do not show the max dev)

atlvolunteer wrote:

2. The max deviation for the LMGs, particularly the HK21(5) and the MG36(10), looks incorrect.
Can you verify that these are correct?
Thx
Verified, according to this source it is correct...

edit: but the min dev added per shot is wrong... I'll have to update that.
Cheers,
R

Ps.: Nice to see that someone noticed
My other source was bf2player, and I was talking about per shot, not max.  Sorry I wasn't more clear.  Glad I could be of help.
EDIT: and thanks for doublechecking it.

Last edited by atlvolunteer (2006-02-17 12:57:04)

stubby
Member
+-1|6670|Sydney, AUS

tF-voodoochild wrote:

Clearly the only criteria for these ribbons is time based, it says so right in the game! There are two requirements, Global time and Time spent in theatre. The ONLY questions at this point are the specific numbers, and for the most part the global time is pretty much universally agreed to be 250 hours.
sorry everyone but your ideas are wrong ive only played the game for 33hrs and i already have the MEC ribbon
Shin_Seffron
Member
+2|6654

ThomasMorgan wrote:

Shin_Seffron wrote:

Take a look at  BlaZiN.uk's profile....

Next Rank: Brigadier General
100%
Score: 346,136 of 180,000. At your historical rate, you should earn 0 in 0 days (or 00:00:00 straight).

Next Rank: Major General
100%
Score: 346,136 of 180,000. At your historical rate, you should earn 0 in 0 days (or 00:00:00 straight).
your point?

he has the scores, but not the badges.
Yeah sorry shoulda explained myself a bit better - My point was if this guy has over 1435 hours of play, an he aint got the rank, what hope do the rest of us have?

Anyway back to the topic - I was going for my Veteran Engineer badge today, and got 21 kills yet no badge. At the time i thought UBAR stated 22 kills, but thats for SF not vanilla BF2, It says 20 kills IAR - and no sorry forgot to take a picture
CrimsonFury
Member
+1|6780
Just got 2 more SF service ribbons (rebel and SAS) and they both came *exactly* after I passed 50 hours in theatre for those armies (just like the spteznaz one I got ages ago).

I am positive 50 hours in theatre is a requirement for these ribbons. That might not have been the case when SF first came out, its possible EA changed the requirements later, but thats definately the case now.

Last edited by CrimsonFury (2006-02-20 04:09:55)

valli
Member
+10|6640
I too have just received my 2nd SF ribbon (Spetznaz) after having the SAS for a long time. Right now I have 50h13m in the Spetz. Theater. Haven't seen BFHQs own criteria description listed anywhere so here it goes:

Played all Russian Spetznaz maps
Time in Service
killingyouguy
Member
+0|6649
I've been trying to get my Veteran Spec Ops Combat Specialist badge for weeks. I have 26 hours as Spec Ops & since then I've had rounds of 48 kills, 31 kills & two 28 kill rounds. And it won't come up saying "You've been awarded..." I posted a question on EA's site and this was there reply:

"I have looked over your stats and it appears you are not eligible for the badge yet. Please keep in mind that the "requirements" you have seen for the badge are approximations. We do not dispense the actually requirements for Badges ,Awards and Ranks. This issue needs no further correspondence."

Now I don't think your requirements are wrong. They've been right for everything else (including the other SF vet. combat badges I have got). But I don't have a clue what is going on.

I totally uninstalled BF2. Reinstalled BF2, SF & the 1.2 patch of EA's site. Same thing happens... nothing.
Ali
Official Hell Bound Turbo Action Club Member
+17|6710|Gütersloh, Germany
Did you make sure you were playing on a ranked server?
Bernadictus
Moderator
+1,055|6738

roguegeneral wrote:

The crieteria for the MID EAST RIBBON and FAR EAST RIBBON
I'm a little suprised no one still doesn't know the criteria for these awards.The generic criteria is time in theater and time in service.
I have played all the maps from all sides= time in theater.Time in service the real requirement  is 250 hours global. I recieved both ribbons after  I hit the 250hr mark... I play karkand all the time was checking stats and saw the new ribbon i got mid east ribbon. That was the weekend I hit 250 hrs globally. I went and played 1 china map I received the far east ribbon. Neither ribbon showed in the game I think  or I wasn't paying attention but they were in my stats once the round ended...

Criteria
Mid East ribbon
250hrs global=time in service
MEC map rotation= time in theater

Far East Ribbon
250hrs global=time in service
China map rotation=time in theater

the requirements for time in theater is just a total of playing the maps not how long just that u have played them once  I think...
I suspect these are correct and would like credit for these ribbons since  u have no info on these as of yet..

Thks,
HkD|RogueGeneral
Lol I got both within 20 hours of BF2
killingyouguy
Member
+0|6649
Yeah I've played on them all before and got awards. It was just the few days before the patch and since that this has been happening.

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