Russian forces violently put down gay rights protesters

2009-05-16 11:43:21

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Freezer7Pro: I don't come here a lot anymore.; +1,447|6435|Winland

MOSCOW (AP) - Riot police violently broke up several gay rights demonstrations in Moscow on Saturday, hauling away scores of protesters hours before the Russian capital hosted a major international pop music competition.

City officials had warned they would not tolerate marches or rallies supporting the rights of gays and lesbians. Activists had targeted Moscow, which was holding the finals of the Eurovision song contest on Saturday, to press their claims that Russia officially sanctions homophobia.

Police seized gay rights protesters as well as some members of religious and nationalist groups that staged counter-demonstrations. They also took away gay rights activists for simply talking to reporters, and ripped the bra and shirt off one female protester.

Moscow police spokesman Anatoly Listovetsky said 40 people were detained, although media reports said up to 80 had been seized.

City authorities had barred Saturday's rally, saying it was morally wrong.

"(Gay pride events) not only destroy moral foundations of our society, but also purposefully provoke disturbances that will threaten the lives and safety of Moscow residents and guests," City Hall spokesman Sergei Tsoi was quoted by the ITAR-Tass news agency as saying Saturday.

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2009-05-16 13:51:50

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ghettoperson: Member; +1,943|6887

Seriously, a thread discussing how awsm it is that Russia kicked some gay ass gets D&ST'd?

2009-05-16 14:03:06

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ATG: Banned; +5,233|6767|Global Command

ghettoperson wrote:
Seriously, a thread discussing how awsm it is that Russia kicked some gay ass gets D&ST'd?

I think that the mistake was both in the former thread title and in it's being placed in EE.

I think the squashing of the parades deserves commentary outside the usual flotsam and jetsam found there.

2009-05-16 14:10:34

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Gawwad: My way or Haddaway!; +212|6923|Espoo, Finland

ATG wrote:
ghettoperson wrote:
Seriously, a thread discussing how awsm it is that Russia kicked some gay ass gets D&ST'd?
I think that the mistake was both in the former thread title and in it's being placed in EE.

I think the squashing of the parades deserves commentary outside the usual flotsam and jetsam found there.

Remove that awesome smiley from the OP.
Freezer is an idiot.

2009-05-16 15:03:43

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Doctor Strangelove: Real Battlefield Veterinarian.; +1,758|6706

I think Russian is trying to hide something

2009-05-16 16:09:49

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Turquoise: O Canada; +1,596|6643|North Carolina

Russia has never been known to be tolerant of much at all, especially not gays, Jews, or non-whites.

2009-05-16 18:35:42

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unnamednewbie13: Moderator; +2,053|7010|PNW

End this thread now before it becomes 20 pages of circular logic!

2009-05-16 20:06:23

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Flecco: iPod is broken.; +1,048|6903|NT, like Mick Dundee

'Russian forces'?

Shit title. I came in here looking for something like Tienanmen Square. Riot police = police. Not Russian 'forces' tbqfh.

So basically the riot cops got heavy on a gay rights demonstration. The demonstrators were told their protest wouldn't be tolerated and went ahead with it?

Whoa... Can't believe these forums are still kicking.

2009-05-17 05:24:11

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Shahter: Zee Ruskie; +295|7013|Moscow, Russia

yep. i just read the russian news on this - they were told in advance that they will not be allowed to "parade" on that day - they showed up anyway and have been promptly arrested. that's about it.

if you open your mind too much your brain will fall out.

2009-05-17 05:39:14

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Turquoise: O Canada; +1,596|6643|North Carolina

Shahter wrote:
yep. i just read the russian news on this - they were told in advance that they will not be allowed to "parade" on that day - they showed up anyway and have been promptly arrested. that's about it.

But the question remains... Why is Russia so fearful of gays?

2009-05-17 05:40:58

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usmarine: Banned; +2,785|6999

Turquoise wrote:
Why is Russia so fearful of gays?

because if one person is gay, then they all have to be gay

2009-05-17 05:43:45

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AussieReaper: ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°); +5,761|6391|what

The gay-pride march was banned.

The gay-pride march protesters march was allowed to go ahead.

Which means that if the gay pride parade hadn't gone ahead (as the police had hoped), you would have seen just an anti-gay protest march protesting the gay march that didn't take place. lol

2009-05-17 06:07:34

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Shahter: Zee Ruskie; +295|7013|Moscow, Russia

Turquoise wrote:
Shahter wrote:
yep. i just read the russian news on this - they were told in advance that they will not be allowed to "parade" on that day - they showed up anyway and have been promptly arrested. that's about it.
But the question remains... Why is Russia so fearful of gays?

i honestly don't know. i also don't think russia's actually fearful of gays. they are traditionally despised and that's being consistently supported by russian orthodox church and many other organisations. personally, i've no problems with gays as long as they don't try to parade in my hallway. i do, however, think their "parades" are ugly and pointless, but so are *cough* eurovision finals and stuff like that, so... whatever. i just hope nobody got seriously hurt.

if you open your mind too much your brain will fall out.

2009-05-17 06:17:46

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Turquoise: O Canada; +1,596|6643|North Carolina

Shahter wrote:
Turquoise wrote:
Shahter wrote:
yep. i just read the russian news on this - they were told in advance that they will not be allowed to "parade" on that day - they showed up anyway and have been promptly arrested. that's about it.
But the question remains... Why is Russia so fearful of gays?
i honestly don't know. i also don't think russia's actually fearful of gays. they are traditionally despised and that's being consistently supported by russian orthodox church and many other organisations. personally, i've no problems with gays as long as they don't try to parade in my hallway. i do, however, think their "parades" are ugly and pointless, but so are *cough* eurovision finals and stuff like that, so... whatever. i just hope nobody got seriously hurt.

The parades wouldn't happen if they had equal rights.

2009-05-17 06:26:29

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Flecco: iPod is broken.; +1,048|6903|NT, like Mick Dundee

Turquoise wrote:
Shahter wrote:
Turquoise wrote:

But the question remains... Why is Russia so fearful of gays?
i honestly don't know. i also don't think russia's actually fearful of gays. they are traditionally despised and that's being consistently supported by russian orthodox church and many other organisations. personally, i've no problems with gays as long as they don't try to parade in my hallway. i do, however, think their "parades" are ugly and pointless, but so are *cough* eurovision finals and stuff like that, so... whatever. i just hope nobody got seriously hurt.
The parades wouldn't happen if they had equal rights.

Err dude...

They basically have equal rights (civil unions and such afaik), acceptance and tolerance here in Aus and they still insist on keeping Sydney's Mardi Gras all to themselves.

Whoa... Can't believe these forums are still kicking.

2009-05-17 06:29:09

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Turquoise: O Canada; +1,596|6643|North Carolina

Flecco wrote:
Turquoise wrote:
Shahter wrote:

i honestly don't know. i also don't think russia's actually fearful of gays. they are traditionally despised and that's being consistently supported by russian orthodox church and many other organisations. personally, i've no problems with gays as long as they don't try to parade in my hallway. i do, however, think their "parades" are ugly and pointless, but so are *cough* eurovision finals and stuff like that, so... whatever. i just hope nobody got seriously hurt.
The parades wouldn't happen if they had equal rights.
Err dude...

They basically have equal rights (civil unions and such afaik), acceptance and tolerance here in Aus and they still insist on keeping Sydney's Mardi Gras all to themselves.

Well, isn't being "traditionally despised" an understandable stimulus for wanting to protest?

2009-05-17 06:29:09

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Shahter: Zee Ruskie; +295|7013|Moscow, Russia

Turquoise wrote:
The parades wouldn't happen if they had equal rights.

you think so? they do parade in other countries too. it's not so much about rights i think, but rather about their notion about themselves. the too are connected of course, but i don't think attention whores among them would just stop waving their asses around even if their rights were brought to the level with everybody else.

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if you open your mind too much your brain will fall out.

2009-05-17 06:30:01

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.Sup: be nice; +2,646|6691|The Twilight Zone

Finns still hate Russians?

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2009-05-17 06:30:23

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Turquoise: O Canada; +1,596|6643|North Carolina

Shahter wrote:
Turquoise wrote:
The parades wouldn't happen if they had equal rights.
you think so? the do parade in other countries too. it's not so much about rights i think, but rather about their notion about themselves. the too are connected of course, but i don't think attention whores among them would just stop waving their asses around even if their rights were brought to the level with everybody else.

See my response to Flecco.

2009-05-17 06:31:43

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Turquoise: O Canada; +1,596|6643|North Carolina

.Sup wrote:
Finns still hate Russians?

Well, given recent history, there's more reason for them to hate Russians.

2009-05-17 06:32:46

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Flecco: iPod is broken.; +1,048|6903|NT, like Mick Dundee

Turquoise wrote:
Flecco wrote:
Turquoise wrote:

The parades wouldn't happen if they had equal rights.
Err dude...

They basically have equal rights (civil unions and such afaik), acceptance and tolerance here in Aus and they still insist on keeping Sydney's Mardi Gras all to themselves.
Well, isn't being "traditionally despised" an understandable stimulus for wanting to protest?

Sydney's Mardi Gras isn't a protest. It's a gay pride parade. Discriminatory against heterosexual people tbh.

Whoa... Can't believe these forums are still kicking.

2009-05-17 06:33:11

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.Sup: be nice; +2,646|6691|The Twilight Zone

Turquoise wrote:
.Sup wrote:
Finns still hate Russians?
Well, given recent history, there's more reason for them to hate Russians.

Yeah but still?

Wait recent history? Enlighten me Turq

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2009-05-17 06:42:26

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Turquoise: O Canada; +1,596|6643|North Carolina

Flecco wrote:
Turquoise wrote:
Flecco wrote:

Err dude...

They basically have equal rights (civil unions and such afaik), acceptance and tolerance here in Aus and they still insist on keeping Sydney's Mardi Gras all to themselves.
Well, isn't being "traditionally despised" an understandable stimulus for wanting to protest?
Sydney's Mardi Gras isn't a protest. It's a gay pride parade. Discriminatory against heterosexual people tbh.

I was going back to the Russian OP.

2009-05-17 06:44:51

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Flecco: iPod is broken.; +1,048|6903|NT, like Mick Dundee

Turquoise wrote:
Flecco wrote:
Turquoise wrote:

Well, isn't being "traditionally despised" an understandable stimulus for wanting to protest?
Sydney's Mardi Gras isn't a protest. It's a gay pride parade. Discriminatory against heterosexual people tbh.
I was going back to the Russian OP.

Ah k. Idk, I think having their parade shut down isn't a bad reason to protest. Doesn't actually harm anybody. Just kinda annoying. Staging a protest after being warned that it wouldn't be tolerated isn't a smart move though if you are concerned about your health and safety.

Whoa... Can't believe these forums are still kicking.

2009-05-17 06:48:04

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Turquoise: O Canada; +1,596|6643|North Carolina

.Sup wrote:
Turquoise wrote:
.Sup wrote:
Finns still hate Russians?
Well, given recent history, there's more reason for them to hate Russians.
Yeah but still?

Wait recent history? Enlighten me Turq

Ah... not that recent I guess. How do you feel toward the nations that used to make up Yugoslavia?

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