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Its times like these I love being isolated from the rest of the world.

Flecco wrote:

Adams_BJ wrote:

Its times like these I love being isolated from the rest of the world.

Umm...

Ben m8, we aren't isolated.

Actually, I'm sure Australia's Navy would eventually step in.

As for the people who thing hydrogen cars require electricity powered by coal/etc and so forth, you apparently don't really know how hydrogen cars work and that actually (in Germany I believe) they actually have some efficient H Cars with service stations for them. Look here.

afaik, your first one only applies to the first Iraq war... But i'm staying out of this one lol

usmarine wrote:

Little BaBy JESUS wrote:

afaik, your first one only applies to the first Iraq war...

technically......you are not correct.  no peace treaty was signed.  just a cease fire agreement.  now, clinton did not help with the illegal no fly zone, but, no blame for him ofc.

Clinton was a jackass as far as foreign policy and his corporate friendly policies went.

usmarine wrote:

Flecco wrote:

I dunno m8, the USA seems to have a real knack for starting wars.

hmmm..

we invaded kuwait and violated cease fire agreements?

afghanistan was started by us?  no we were attacked first kthx

wwii was started by us?

wwi was started by us?

vietnam?  no.  actually they asked for our help memba?

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so, what were you saying?

Afghanistan? They didn't attack you. The Taliban refused to hand over Osama Bin Laden because the USA wouldn't provide proof beyond reasonable doubt he was behind 9/11. AQ attacked you afaik. They aren't the Taliban.

Can't really argue the others because the USA didn't fire the first shot.

usmarine wrote:

Flecco wrote:

I dunno m8, the USA seems to have a real knack for starting wars.

hmmm..

we invaded kuwait and violated cease fire agreements?

afghanistan was started by us?  no we were attacked first kthx

wwii was started by us?

wwi was started by us?

vietnam?  no.  actually they asked for our help memba?

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so, what were you saying?

usmarine wrote:

Little BaBy JESUS wrote:

afaik, your first one only applies to the first Iraq war...

technically......you are not correct.  no peace treaty was signed.  just a cease fire agreement.  now, clinton did not help with the illegal no fly zone, but, no blame for him ofc.

you do beleave all this crap above to be true, don't you, marine? you actually think it was "technically" okay to bomb kosovo, iraq and afghanistan, right? it might come as a surprise for you, but most of this world's countries do not stop at "technical" or "legal" aspects when assesing their national security - they use their common cense, dude. these days you have to be blind, deaf and live under the rock not to understand that everything you mentioned above was politically engineered. so those arguments you posted might be good for un of some other international construct - meaning your arguments are only good for a laugh, because usa themselves stopped worrying about what international community thought about their actions a long time ago.

russia don't take any "technical" chances and i don't fucking blame them, no matter how unfortunate that turn of events may look. your "civilized" west opened the pandorra's box - now don't whine when you don't like what's coming our of it.

Stubbee wrote:

Georgia was not in the US 'backyard'.

Georgia had it coming tbh. Official Georgian statements goes that they mobilized after Russia invaded; which is bull. Most of  the pictures spread in Western media showing injured civilians, were actually taken before the Russian invasion and were caused by the Georgian shelling their own cities. They also killed several Russian orderkeepers stationed in the region, prior to the Russian invasion. Saakashvili was pushing it, believing Russia wouldn't interfere with NATO hanging above. Also Georgia has claimed Russia had been preparing for war months before, which is possibly true. However, you tell me what it means that in those same months Georgia had been stacking up on American and German arms?

Why do you think Western media went practically completely silent on the topic when official reports started coming in? And yes, the Kremlin had its own agenda in "liberating" the dissident regions, but so had NATO in not supporting them. Yes, the one sided idependency declaration of said regions might have been a reaction to Kosovo, but if what Russia did with Abchazia and South Ossetia is the same as what we did with Kosovo (exactly the same in fact), why would it be bad what Russia did and good what we did?

nickb64 wrote:

Lai wrote:

nickb64 wrote:

Russia will be to the next World War what Nazi Germany was to the last, IMHO.

No, Jerry was plain evil, Ivan is not.

I meant as in they would start the next World War.

Mwoah,.. NATO is provoking Russia just as hard as the other way around. The outcome of an eventual war would determine who started it, as with all other wars before

usmarine wrote:

vietnam?  no.  actually they asked for our help memba?

Yes, and remember a lot of Vietnamese still support that decision and were sorry to see you leave.

Shahter wrote:

usmarine wrote:

and dont make me lol at russia's / ussr's record

oh, indulge me.

hmmmm..i have time for one example.  how about when ussr/russia teamed with hitler and attacked poland killing many many innocent people to kick start wwii?  you know, a world fucking war?

Flecco wrote:

usmarine wrote:

Flecco wrote:

Afghanistan? They didn't attack you. The Taliban refused to hand over Osama Bin Laden because the USA wouldn't provide proof beyond reasonable doubt he was behind 9/11. AQ attacked you afaik. They aren't the Taliban.

obl & co lived in afghan.  no shit afghan didnt attack us....but they didnt really run their country either.  you know what i meant.

No, you claimed Afghanistan had attacked the USA. Afaik, they were mostly Saudis but w/e.

no i didnt claim that.  i woke up at 245am to come to work today....so deal with it.  anybody with a brain knew what i meant.

Shahter wrote:

usmarine wrote:

Shahter wrote:

oh, indulge me.

hmmmm..i have time for one example.  how about when ussr/russia teamed with hitler and attacked poland killing many many innocent people to kick start wwii?  you know, a world fucking war?

oh, yeah, now if you could somehow explain how ussr's intent in this was to kick start a world fucking war (in which, btw, ussr endured the heaviest losses among all other countries) we'd be all set.
that's a miss, dude. try again.

oh ok....so you did it for lulz then

Russian historians say Finland wanted to invade Russia in WW2. They blame us that we started it, but in reality they shot their own guys to frame us.

In their books the Winter war is considered 'minor border conflict'. Haha

When you look in the global map, you clearly see how we wanted to conquer Russia.
http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/5200 … telmab.jpg

We have mandatory armed service because of Russia. The only reason for our armed forces is our neighbour in the east. Sleeping bear.

Atm they just threaten us not going NATO, and fuck with our politics, but when they get fed up with that....

Last edited by GC_PaNzerFIN (2009-05-17 04:51:44)

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

Russian historians say Finland wanted to invade Russia in WW2. They blame us that we started it, but in reality they shot their own guys to frame us.

In their books the Winter war is considered 'minor border conflict'. Haha

When you look in the global map, you clearly see how we wanted to conquer Russia.
http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/5200 … telmab.jpg

We have mandatory armed service because of Russia. The only reason for our armed forces is our neighbour in the east. Sleeping bear.

Atm they just threaten us not going NATO, and fuck with our politics, but when they get fed up with that....

What's Finland have that Russia doesn't in terms of natural resources and such?

Flecco wrote:

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

Russian historians say Finland wanted to invade Russia in WW2. They blame us that we started it, but in reality they shot their own guys to frame us.

In their books the Winter war is considered 'minor border conflict'. Haha

When you look in the global map, you clearly see how we wanted to conquer Russia.
http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/5200 … telmab.jpg

We have mandatory armed service because of Russia. The only reason for our armed forces is our neighbour in the east. Sleeping bear.

Atm they just threaten us not going NATO, and fuck with our politics, but when they get fed up with that....

What's Finland have that Russia doesn't in terms of natural resources and such?

territory. they were too close to leningrad (st.petersburg now)- a major industrial and logistic center.

Last edited by Shahter (2009-05-17 04:56:52)

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

And that gives the right to slaugter us? My uncle was shot in throat in that war. He spent 5 years fighting for his life in the front line before that.

All that because USSR wanted little territory.

i never said they had a right to slaughter anybody. i'm not trying to justify any war, unlike some other people here, and i don't take any sides, even though i'm a russian. flecco asked a question, i answered it, that's all.

Last edited by Shahter (2009-05-17 05:05:05)